Do you let your kids play with toy guns?

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My brothers and I were always allowed to have toy guns. We were taught that toys were toys and firearms were "tools" with their own purposes. The few real firearms my family had in the early years were never objectified or made to be a forbidden fruit, but to us were made to look no different than the numerous tools in Dad's garage. We were taught to use all tools with commone sense, guns included. Just like using a saw, hammer, grinder, propane torch or drill; if you were stupid with them or tried to use them the same way you used your toy ones, you or someone else could get seriously injured or killed. We were allowed to use most of the tools whenever we needed them and were to leave them alone when they weren't needed; the need for us boys to use the firearms never arose so we left them alone, even though we knew where they were kept. Their use was limited to when they were needed. The few times they were needed my parents were the ones to use them, and were otherwise kept in their rightful place.

My grandfather (who was an MP during WW2) cut out a wooden rifle on his bandsaw when I was 6 or 7... I still have it. I must admit that my grandfather was the dominant supplier to our tyke arsenal, a cabin in our front yard that he also built. It was usually well-stocked with cap pistols of all sorts and the occasional rifle, shotgun or sci-fi blaster. My first real gun was a 30-30 that I purchased from my uncle (via working for my dad) at age twelve and although fully understanding how to use it never pointed it at a living being, excepting an aggressive dog that my mother deemed a threat to my brothers and I while my father wasn't home... I safely and successfully loaded, chambered and fired the large rifle, scaring the dog off, and subsequently cleared, cleaned, and returned it to it's rightful place.

My brothers and I each have a few firearms of our own now, and even though they see fairly regular use we've never pointed them at each other despite pointing and shooting wooden, replica, finger, cap, dart, and paintball guns at each other for the entirety of our childhoods, just as we've never tried to drill each other as we did with our toy drills or smack each other with hammers as we did with our toy hammers. I also now teach and practice muzzle and trigger discipline on a regular basis on the paintball field our family runs... with mostly positive results and a few lessons learned. :)
 
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I was raised in a family that has always been avid hunters and gun collectors. I had all kinds of toy guns when I was little. I was also taught to shoot when I was about 5 and took my first deer at the age of 9. I knew the difference between a toy and a real gun and what place each had. I never had any problems and did not grow up to be a criminal. I see nothing wrong with a kid having a toy gun to play with. My grand children have toy guns and when the time comes they are old enough to start shooting I will teach them how and when a real gun can be used. For now we use the toys as training aid for gun safety.
 
HARD TO REMEMBER BACK THAT FAR

but i think i got cap guns at 3 so the pic look like im 3
BB gun at 6 wasn't a red rider it was a leaver action i think
410 at 8
22 at 10
and have been non stop now
 
Yep, and they even get to shoot me with them.

My wife didn't like the idea of our boy shooting at us with his toy guns. So, she told him that he could only shoot at the ground, trees, other toys, etc. Of course this caused them to no longer be any fun, and he didn't want to play with them anymore. That rule has been tossed out the window, and he likes to shoot his Daddy with his water guns again.

I'll teach them safety and seriousness, when they know those words mean.
 
I used to play with toy guns, cap guns, water pistols, etc, when cap guns were still metal and they all were very good replications of real guns and i have the greatest finger-off-trigger and muzzle direction discipline out of anyone I have seen whilst at the range. The difference is I guess is that I am VERY interested in firearms, whereas if you try to teach young kids about REAL guns who aren't all that interested in REAL guns they won't pay attention as much and so will be sloppy. Also kids are kids, they don't understand the importance of things, as they don't know or have life experience to give them common sense. You have to drill things into them.

Man we used to have these two full size plastic EXACT replica 92FS Beretta water pistols with a DA hammer movement and removable magazine / water tank. They rocked. I wish I had have had more respect for them as I would love to still have them, but they got cracked and broken / thrown out.
 
We're not yet parents, but we've agreed - no toy guns in our house.

What do you think?


I think you need to have your OWN children, and raise them to responsible adults before you give others advice on raising children. Once you do, you'll realize that playing with toy guns, playing video games and watching violence on T.V./movies does not make for criminal, careless and irresponsible adults. Just like playing with dolls does not make a child want to undress others in public when adults, just like playing with toy cars does not make your child steal your real car and jump it off a ramp in the sandbox:rolleyes:You'll realize it is careless and irresponsible PARENTS that are the real culprit. You'll also realize that raising kids is like pullin' both triggers on a double barreled shotgun.....you can read about how other folks do it and you can think and theorize about it all you want, but you still don't have a clue till you do it yourself.
 
I'm sure this has been done, but I didn't see it in a search.

I absolutely hate toy guns, especially in the hands of children. They have a difficult enough time telling reality from fantasy.

I know a lot of gun-owners, and the divide is pretty clean. I know it's not a statistically-significant sample, but......

1) Those who let their kids play with toy guns have kids with TERRIBLE trigger discipline, muzzle control, and general safety with REAL guns. They play cops and robbers, cowboys and Indians, and other shoot-em-up kids games. And then when the parents try to teach them about real guns, the kids don't take it seriously enough, because the habits with toy guns are so ingrained. It's very hard to expect a 6 year old to point a realistic toy gun at his friend, and then respect that it is absolutely unacceptable to do it with a gun that looks exactly like it.

2) Those who don't (which is a smaller group) all have kids who are respectful of the power of the gun. I know of two different two year olds who can say the gun safety rules, and put it into practice. I was showing one father a handgun of mine, and he turned to his kid and said "Now what do we do with guns?" And the 2 year old says, "Finger OFF the trigger. No pointing. It's loaded."

Is this just coincidence? We're not yet parents, but we've agreed - no toy guns in our house. But the kids will get all the real guns they want.

What do you think?
You are making an assumption based on little or no statistical evidence. I would say that you are from front to back in error! Down right Bass ackwards!
 
Toy Guns Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolutely! Yes! I, in fact, let both of my young daughters play with toy guns. My 9 year old and my 3 year old have toy guns that I bought them: snap guns, cap guns, water guns, spark guns.....the works. My 9 year old daughter, Katelyn has a full-auto air-soft gun and a Mossberg Plinkster semi-auto .22 rifle. She shoots it very well and is quite the good shot with a .22 Ruger Mark ll.
My wife and I own a gun business and my daughters know what kind of work I do and see me carrying a gun almost 24 hours a day. My 3 year old daughter, Kayla, has sat on my lap at a local outdoor range and pulled the trigger on my AR-15. She's a bigger gun nut than her older sister.
Do I think she has trouble telling the difference between a real gun and a toy gun? Even though she is 3, I think so. Kids are creatures of "behavior". Heck they know how to manipulate adults behaviors better than any college educated expert. Toy guns are hers to play with. Daddy and Mommy's REAL guns are not her's or her sister's to access. Kayla has asked to see my gun before on a few occasions at home. I retrieved my gun from it's storage and verified that it was unloaded and then let her see me check it as well. Then I sat down with her and I showed it to her and explained gun safety to her each and every time. I satisfy her curiosity the same way my dad did when my siblings and I were kids. We had toy guns (lots of them) and were allowed to see, touch, hold, clean and shoot real guns too. I pulled the trigger the 1st time when I was 2. My dad put muffs on my head and held his crack-barrel .12 gauge and let me pull the trigger. I hit the big goose that was tearing up his garden (we lived out in the country at that time). My dad was a military man with 3 sons and a daughter. He raised us around guns and taught us to be safe. I want my children to be able to have the same safe education I received and I think toy guns are safe for them to have. Teaching children to be afraid of guns is to teach them to be future gun grabbers. I do think parents can go overboard either way. My goal is to attain the balance my father was able to maintain.
 
Here's something my parents did, and I think it was right.

They let me play with toy guns, but I had to treat them as if they were real guns -- including not pointing them at people and only firing a cap gun in a "safe direction." I had safe gun handling programmed into my mind from a very early age.

This prevented the "forbidden fruit" syndrome, too.
 
I took my 4 year old grand daughter out yesterday and let her shoot my Browning Buckmark. She shot a 10 round magazine of lr ammo into a large stump. SHE IS HOOKED!!!! I can see several toy guns in her immediate future!
 
Sure do.

Three rules...don't shoot Mom, don't shoot Dad and don't shoot the dog. Birds, deer, or other animals are fair game.
 

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Toy guns were a huge part of growing up for both myself and my kids. All of us knew the difference between "toy" & "real".

How about cars? Do you prevent your kids from playing with toy cars & trucks because when they finally get a real one they'll drive it up and around a 360 deg vertical loop or purposely crash it into other cars like they do with toys. Absurd!

Get real and please stop perpetuating this urban, false thinking.
 
Media Brainwash is all this is. Kids love playing Cops and Robbers, Cowboys and Indians...etc
If it gets them outside then it is a good thing. Comparing them to the real thing is just stupid. They know the difference. I own a warehouse and my son and his buddies play nerf gun war for hours. Then we pick up nerf darts for weeks after. When we go to the range with him and his friends they know not to shoot each other. They play video games also. They all carry pocket knives. They havent stabbed each other yet. Give your kids a little credit....Russ

Also don't shoot Mom in the rear with a Nerf Gun.
 
I fall on the side of no toy guns

As guns are not toys, they're tools, and should be treated with the respect quality tools deserve.

Mine had real guns before 10 and my girls were crack shots with my old Remmy and Winchester single shots and the boy flat loved the model 39 Marlin.

They never seemed deprived in any way and respect the power of a gun. Still shooting and enjoying it without the toy guns so imo, it probably doesn't make much of a difference either way as long as you take the time to train and be with your kids.

Problem children tend to be ignored children.....

imo of course, ymmv

Poco..

One exception was waterguns that looked nothing like real guns, It's Az after all, you need something to beat the heat....

Poco
 
I grew up on a farm and Dad was not a hunter, pro gun, he just didn't see the need to hunt anything when he could shoot & butcher a pig or steer with a lot less effort. Most of my Uncles were avid hunters. Personally, I was sneaking out the 22 and shotgun by the time I was 9, Guardian Angels were working overtime I'm sure.

My kids are now 30, 28, and 23. I started teaching Hunter Safety in 81 and made the decision to not allow "toy guns". All my kids started shooting at or before the age of 6, under immediate supervision. They knew all they needed to do was ask and I'd be half packed for a range trip. I never refused, as when they were tired of shooting, I got to shoot for a while. While they lost out on play time with guns, they gained real world experience of what firearms are capable of doing and never lost the respect a firearm is due. I think they are more careful than I am. I hunt or go target practicing with all of them except the 30 yr old. She and her husband have 3 daughters under age 5 and live in another town, so range time takes second to raising her family. She has spoken for the 4" S&W M34 that she learned on when I am ready to relinquish it.

Weather I was right or wrong to not allow toy guns is a moot point at this time. I just see the end result and am very proud of them.
 
As guns are not toys, they're tools, and should be treated with the respect quality tools deserve.

So do your children not get any other toy tools as well? No hammers, wrenches, or saws for the little man? No cooking sets or knives for daddy's little girl?

Maybe it was growing up in a simpler time, but this all seems so deprived to me. Growing up in small town rural Montana, my brother and I were always around guns. The real deal was kept loaded and in plain sight, with various rifles stacked in little tepees around my grandpa's house. They were never shrouded in mystery from us. If we wanted to see one, we asked. By the time we were four years old, if we wanted to shoot, we asked. There was never a "red button syndrome" with guns in my family. We got to see deer hanging on a chain between two trees every fall, so we always knew what real guns were capable of. Not a single firearms related accident, nor a single violent psychopath, mass murderer, or killer between us. Go figure.

Of course being taught other little things about life at an early age was also important. Things like the meaning of the word "no," and distinguishing truth and reality from that which was not.

So my mom gets tired of us being in her way as she is trying to clean the house. "Go play boys. Dinner is at six. Stay within bell range.*" (My mom had an old fashion metal cow bell that she would ring when she wanted us home. You could hear that thing on the other side of town, up behind the school, out near the gravel pit--everybody within a mile and a half knew it was dinner time at our house.) My brother and I would grab our favorite toy guns, or our bikes, or our pocket knives and my hatchet, and we would try occupy our little minds in a world devoid of XBox and a house lacking but rarely even missing basic television. I won't lie and say we never got hurt, or did something stupid, or got in trouble. Far from it. But we always knew that this was play. There was a definite mind switch that went on between the time my grandma would call us in for lunch at her house, and the time we would finish our PB&Js and Diet Pepsis and follow our grandpa to the backyard with the Winchester M63 and a couple boxes of bulk pack .22LR. Somehow we could play war with stick guns and rock grenades all afternoon, and still never get the urge to shoot at each other or anyone else half an hour later in the same yard with a real rifle. (Then we'd come inside and watch "Rambo" while my grandma made dinner.) I don't think it was a coincidence either. I just think it was good parenting.

Somehow I also spent my teens discovering violent video games, and some years later left to college and came back a die-hard metal head, and I still have yet to climb a clock tower.

I also think there is a lot of developing that goes on with boys and their toy guns that is normal and healthy. Boys learn social interaction. Real social interaction. Not the type they get now days with a mic-headset over XBox Live. And I might be crazy, but looking back on my brother and I running around my grandpa's property with our two cousins, it becomes immediately apparent that by the time we were 8 to 10 years old, we understood the basics of fire team rushes, and fire and maneuver. It's all common sense really. But I digress.

I am not saying all children should be automatically trusted with such responsibility. Our parents were most certainly involved enough in our upbringing that they knew when we were ready for such steps. My grandpa would have never taken my out behind the house with the Winchester M63 and a Diet Pepsi can at age four if I hadn't already demonstrated the ability to distinguish reality from...play. I think it is every parent's responsibility to decide when their children are ready. But I also think it is a crying shame, bordering on criminal human tragedy to rob a child of his or her childhood, and that toy guns are an important developmental part of this. It's like watching puppies play. They act like they are fighting, but they always seem to know the difference between a real bite and a play bite, and when either is acceptable. And in the meantime, there is a lot going on concerning pecking order and social interaction between them that would do more harm than good to devoid them of.
 
We were allowed toy guns (just about the time the orange tips started popping up), but weren't allowed to point them at anyone. This of course takes the whole point out of cops and robbers and cowboys and indians. So what did we do? Not point them at anyone when our mother was around, and lie if she asked.

Ironically, we were allowed to beat each other senseless with garbage can lid shields and wooden and metal swords. Go figure.

The only time we were totally forbidden from playing with toy guns is when we visited relatives who had quite the arsenal of real guns scattered throughout their house. As we had never been exposed to real guns, our parents thought we might have difficulty distinguishing toy from real.

The real danger is making rules that children don't understand and can't see the reason for. If parental rules seem arbitrary, they are much less likely to follow any of them, even the good ones. If the ones they understand make sense, they are much more likely to follow the ones they don't understand completely because they know that their parents don't make baseless regulations.
 
When I was growing up I was introduced to guns at a much earlier age than my son was. I was allowed to play with toy guns. I was also allowed to use air guns at a very early age. At first it was with adult supervision, which was really just an uncle walking through the woods with me shooting at birds. I had to adhere to the same rules as a firearm. I had to keep the safety on, not aim at anything it wasn't safe to shoot, don't shoot toward houses, don't enter the house with it loaded etc. It was mostly common sense stuff. Then I was allowed to go by myself or go hunting with firearms with an adult. If I made an infraction with an airgun all my gun privileges were taken away. I was never officially taught the difference between an airgun and a firearm, I thought they were basically the same for a long time. Well, when my uncle let me shoot his 12 ga I figured it out pretty quick. I never once associated a toy gun with a real gun, although I was 7 or 8 before I realized that a pellet wouldn't take down a whitetail deer, even with a head shot.

My son on the other hand was influenced by his mother who had absolutely no clue. She was more likely to jokingly point a weapon at someone as she was to use it in self defense. To her, all guns were toys unless specifically noted that the gun was loaded (picture the lady that wanted to outlaw barrel shrouds but didn't know what they were). So, I locked my guns up. We later got a divorce and after some time I got my son and she took a sabbatical from the free world. We now adhere to Jeff Cooper's safety rules (I just knew them as the rules) all the time no matter what. I take him hunting with me when I go and I take him to the range with me when I go. I watch him handle and use firearms now and he's nothing like his mom anymore.

If I had it all to do over again and she could take her sabbatical earlier, I'd let him play with toy guns and he'd be introduced to real guns considerably earlier. It's just my .02, but I'd want him to know the know the difference. But, the most important thing that I learned is that it pays to pay attention to children. They're going to learn with or without a parent. Parents teach children by superseding. I personally do not think that irresponsibility with firearms will or won't be determined with toy guns, and I say that because it was an entire period of my life that I learned about firearms, not just one day or one week. It was an ongoing process, and still is between my son and I and hopefully will be many years into the future.
 
All of my kids, now adults and on the verge of out-shooting me, played with toy guns. Even the girls. Now my grand boys run around with guns. If the 6 year old doesn't have a real gun he will make one out of a stick. I can't count the stick guns I have stored for him so he won't lose them.

Kids aren't stupid and know the difference between real and imaginary. The 6 year old is learning to shoot now and is hitting targets at about 15 yards. They love those clay targets.
 
No toy guns.
We let them play with real guns, still do.
And we always have a plan for making more kids.
 
No.

Reasons: 1)I saw too many other kids that did not appreciate what a REAL GUN actually did until it was demonstrated. 2) They were both girls and had no interest. 3) When each was about 6 years old, I took them out to the ranch and taught them how to shoot. They learned that a gun is not a plaything. 4) I gun-proofed them early (Taught them the difference between a real gun and a play gun, taught them unload a gun, and taught them that if one of their playmates brought out a real gun to let an adult know IMMEDIATELY after telling their playmate to put the thing down).

Now that they are in their 20's, they enjoy an occasional trip to the ranch to destroy tin cans.

I never liked toy guns. Real ones are more fun.
 
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