Does anyone NOT own a shotgun?

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I don't own a shotgun found that either the recoil was more than I could tolerate (shoulder surgery) or the simple fact that I just suck with a shotgun. I do have several ARs on hand but found that with at least a handgun,S&W 625 I do quite well. Beat myself senseless at an early age with mag class loads in a 45/70.
 
There is little that we, as civilians, can own that is more devastating at close range than the shotgun.
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Anything 5.56 and up with ballistic tip ammo will produce wounds just as devastating as, if not more so than, a 12 ga with buckshot.
Nine 30 caliber pellets at 1200+ FPS, that with good aim and in close quarters, all strike the target at once. I can easily fire controlled pairs with a shotgun, in effect, dumping a full magazine of 9mm ball into a target in about 1.5 seconds.
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Only if those cartridges are loaded with 54gr projectiles.

I'll take a shotgun over a handgun for HD any day because the shotgun is far effective. Pump shotguns are more economical than semi-auto carbines, but Saigas at $400 certainly narrowed that price gap.
 
The 12ga shotgun is more initial fire power then any Assault rifle or sub machine gun. I saw this proven and describe it on the "Gun Fight" link on my web site www.aiptactical.com.

Once you understand this you then decide if you will ever need that much firepower. If not, then you don't need a shotgun. If you do and want a weapon with the most initial fire power a cilvilian can bring to bare then keep your shotgun.
 
Anything 5.56 and up with ballistic tip ammo will produce wounds just as devastating as, if not more so than, a 12 ga with buckshot.
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I sincerely doubt that. I've never heard a medical opinion from someone with experience that concurs with that. Now granted, the medical opinions I've heard have been limited. But surgeons do not like shotguns - at least those I've talked to.
 
I had an Remington 870 12 gauge. Sold it and bought an 1100. Then I sold that and bought an AK74. Shotguns don't fit my needs so I sold it and bought something that does fit my needs. I would like to get another blued, wood stocked 870 but it's low on the list of priorities.
 
I have a couple or four shotguns, some really nice, some not so much. My go-to shottie is an H&R break open .410, standing ready at the back door.
 
Once the KSG is out there in real numbers (and we're sure all the kinks are out), I think I may own one of those (at or around MSRP). Until then, I'm not too interested in buying a shotgun before I buy some other stuff on my list.
 
The 12ga shotgun is more initial fire power then any Assault rifle or sub machine gun. I saw this proven and describe it on the "Gun Fight" link on my web site www.aiptactical.com.
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You're in the business of customizing shotguns. No conflict of interest, no financial bias?
I sincerely doubt that. I've never heard a medical opinion from someone with experience that concurs with that. Now granted, the medical opinions I've heard have been limited. But surgeons do not like shotguns - at least those I've talked to.
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I'm not disagreeing at all that shotguns have tremendous terminal ballistics. I'm not discounting the terminal ballistics of rifles either. Surgeons I've spoken to, including a few who were trauma surgeons at the Air Force Theater Hospital at Balad Air Force Base Iraq while I was assigned to another part of Balad, didn't like rifle wounds at all - and most of what they saw was FMJ.

A rifle with proper ammo selection, and a shotgun with buckshot are the two absolute last firearms I want to be shot with. Both are extremely effective at stopping threats. I just don't buy into the 12 ga with buck shot is a death ray myth that keeps being perpetuated.
 
I have a shotgun, a Remington 870. I want another shotgun, a Remington 870. The only difference is the one I have is for sporting purposes, the one I want I purely for home defense. I am good (albeit really, really rusty) with a shotgun, and it would be hard not having one around. I just sort of like 870's and have no compelling reason to look elsewhere!!
 
I have 4 shotguns & some reloads

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I started my hunting with a shotgun. After moving on to rifle and pistol I admit I see little use for shotguns though I have 2. If I could do it I'd like to just have 1 which is a Mossberg Mariner. The O/U was fun but I don't enjoy shotguns.
 
I don't own any form of shotgun. I've never owned a shotgun. All of my weapons are handguns. I sold my one and only 30/30 rifle years ago.


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Do what you want. but your not gonna get huge buck on the resale, so might as well keep it. 12 ga is pretty vers'tle, depending what you got, theres numerous barrels and goodies available.
 
Why should I hold onto a gun I'm never going to use?

My stock answer to the perennial question here and on other boards "What gun is best for home defense?" is, "The gun you are best with."

If you are not going to use it, you aren't going to ever get very good with it - so why lean on a weak reed? YOU DECIDE what you are best with, and have the most confidence in, and use that for HD. And if you decide you'd rather use something else, GET GOOD WITH IT FIRST before you shift to actually depending on it for protection.

NO GUN will do for serious use, IF THE SHOOTER WON'T DO. YOU are the keystone in self defense and home defense, not the firearm.
 
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Once the KSG is out there in real numbers (and we're sure all the kinks are out), I think I may own one of those (at or around MSRP). Until then, I'm not too interested in buying a shotgun before I buy some other stuff on my list.
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Take look at the UTAS UTS-15, it is available now.
 
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Take look at the UTAS UTS-15, it is available now.
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Yeah, I've looked at it a bit. It is rather pricy and looks a bit bulky. And it is also new. I think I'd also like to see that one "field tested" a bit more as well before I'd invest in it.
 
I don't own a shotgun and have no current plans to get one. Nothing against them, they just aren't my cup of tea.
 
I don't own a shotgun currently (and haven't for some time now). I use my AR15 loaded with hollow point ammunition as a dedicated home defense weapon in the interest of preventing overpenetration and reducing the risk of a missed shot hitting one of my neighbors in their homes.
 
I haven't had one for several years. The big reason is cost. The cost of trap and similar sport shooting is prohibitive and the costs of slugs for a slug gun is also prohibitive. Plus I'm not set up to reload for either.

The 12ga shotgun is more initial fire power then any Assault rifle or sub machine gun.
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I don't know what you mean by "fire power," but I suppose you're right if you're counting each pellet in the air. It will work, for certain. But its real advantage is that you can shoot a bear and then shoot a dove with the same weapon. So for example if I am doing some surveying on the lot in Alaska and have the shotgun loaded with slugs, I can slip in a bird load and grab lunch if I see a grouse or ptarmigan.
 
I own a Savage 24, an 870, and an 870 chinese clone (Pardner Protector).

I couldn't imagine not having a shotgun in my hands if things were going wrong. Sure I've got an AR, blah, blah, blah, but buck shot clears paths (and trenches!) very well. Slugs dump the energy of a car crash into a target. They also take rabbit, bird and coyote very well so its the most versatile firearm i own.

My Protector was a whopping $179 so i guess its the most cost effective firearm i own too ;)
 
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