Drug dealer's guns

[ACP]

In case you were wondering what drug dealers are packing today...

This is the haul by Torrington PD today, along with an Acura that had a loaded Glock 45 caliber handgun in the glove box.

Perp is a felon from NY; not allowed to have firearms in CT, the state with the "toughest gun laws in the country"

"Police said they found about an ounce of cocaine and a number of guns and ammunition magazines. Some of the ammunition magazines were tapped together, which would enable a shooter to fire more shots quickly. Police said they retrieved three rifles, four shotguns, seven pistols, 41 large capacity magazines and more than $2,500in cash. Four of the guns were classified as illegal assault weapons. Agosto has a compact Glock .45 cal pistol with ammunition in the glove compartment of the Acura.
Police said Agosto is not permitted to possess any weapons because of his criminal history and a standing restraining order."

 

[Gun Master]

Perp Inventory

In case you were wondering what drug dealers are packing today...

This is the haul by Torrington PD today, along with an Acura that had a loaded Glock 45 caliber handgun in the glove box.

Perp is a felon from NY; not allowed to have firearms in CT, the state with the "toughest gun laws in the country"

"Police said they found about an ounce of cocaine and a number of guns and ammunition magazines. Some of the ammunition magazines were tapped together, which would enable a shooter to fire more shots quickly. Police said they retrieved three rifles, four shotguns, seven pistols, 41 large capacity magazines and more than $2,500in cash. Four of the guns were classified as illegal assault weapons. Agosto has a compact Glock .45 cal pistol with ammunition in the glove compartment of the Acura.
Police said Agosto is not permitted to possess any weapons because of his criminal history and a standing restraining order."

Thanks for the pic, but some of it is kinda dark and some off line of sight. Big A haul.

Could you give us a more detailed description of the items ?

 

[FIGHT NIGHT]

No Hipoint, Jennings, Davis, or Jimenez Sorry I couldn't resist

 

[george burns]

He has good taste in guns for a drug dealer

 

[rklessdriver]

I count
7 semi auto pistols.
Mini 30 or 14
AR15
SKS
AK
3 shotguns.

Fair amount of cash and drugs.

 

[wally]

The illeagal drug pipelines start suppling illeagal guns and magazines once ill-conceived laws create a market for them. Who'd have thunk it?

 

[stchman]

Shocking that a convicted felon could even get their hands on firearms. I thought it was against the law!!!!

 

[joem1945]

If they would pass a law and enforce the code that mandates the death sentance to be carried out in 30 days, I'll bet drig dealers would not carry guns

 

[Gun Master]

If they would pass a law and enforce the code that mandates the death sentance to be carried out in 30 days, I'll bet drig dealers would not carry guns

The "u" is next to the "i".

 

[leadcounsel]

The illeagal drug pipelines start suppling illeagal guns and magazines once ill-conceived laws create a market for them. Who'd have thunk it?

Ding ding ding...

And guess what happens when the price of a Glock goes to $1000 on the black market. More home burglaries for guns.

 

[HB]

Not terribly surprising really but a pretty substantial collection. And to the above poster, there's no way an illegal glock goes for 1000 dollars. You can buy one for 500 at the gun store or less on the street.


HB

 

[Trent]

That looks like a fun day at the range to me.

That looks like a bad day for LEO's - I'm sure in the back of their minds they wonder how many shipments like that they miss, on any given day.

 

[MErl]

Only 1oz of cocaine? Not much of a dealer. There is more money in those guns.

 

[MachIVshooter]

there's no way an illegal glock goes for 1000 dollars. You can buy one for 500 at the gun store or less on the street.

Black market guns in the US sell for considerably more than their legal counterparts because the illegal buyer has few options.

 

[maxxhavoc]

Is that a left-handed AR?

 

[Trent]

Black market guns in the US sell for considerably more than their legal counterparts because the illegal buyer has few options.

Are there stats to back that up?

The vast majority of black market guns are stolen, and therefore, the SELLER has few options on how to get rid of it.

With $0 invested, any amount is profit.

A friend of mine (board member at the gun club I'm in) stumbled on a too-good-to-be-true auction on Gunbroker and won. Bought a Glock 19 for $275 shipped.

Well, a few weeks later police show up and confiscate it. Turns out it was stolen - the original owner went through listings until he stumbled on that one; the seller had the serial # clearly visible in the photos.

So he got his gun back.

My friend lost $275 - he was not eligible for any recompensation.

No idea if the seller was ever found or arrested.

From everything I've heard & read over the last 20 years on the issue, street / face to face you might look at 50% of the actual value of the firearm or less, as the seller just wants to dump it and get the cash to feed whatever habit or vice that got them stealing stuff in the first place.

Mexican cartels were kind of an anomaly of sorts, they paid full retail price, PLUS about $500 per, for the straw purchasers; but that included smuggling across the border (admittedly not hard in that direction).

Why did they pay a premium? Because it was a sure thing to be able to get large quantities of guns - finding stolen ones to buy cheap would be too time consuming, and they couldn't hand pick the types they would buy. It also would expose them to sting operations, whereas retail purchases did not (until our own idiot Government agencies got involved with the whole illegal gun export business... which only made it *easier* on the cartels).

(Source; http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/08/us-gun-smugglers-mexico-cartel?newsfeed=true)

 

[sequins]

I wonder how many crimes those guns were used in before they got picked up. Only an oz of cocaine left (personal?) And 2500 in cash implies the deal just went down.

I have no idea how much cocaine is worth but an oz of anything is nothing, so I doubt he got caught at the "right" time. The kind of enterprise that funds and requires such an arsenal is no doubt way bigger than just him so let's hope he rolls on his affiliates.

 

[ApacheCoTodd]

I guess he couldn't get/afford ammo either.

Or at least it's not shown. Usually, LE and liberal politicians/press love to crow about vast ammunition stashes - none stated here.

Todd.

 

[splithoof]

And into the smelter they go...

 

[Flyer898]

It is wonderful to see that this nation's firearms laws are fulfilling their promise and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals.

 

[Kach33]

If they would pass a law and enforce the code that mandates the death sentance to be carried out in 30 days, I'll bet drig dealers would not carry guns

Are you suggesting the death penalty for selling drugs? Not that I use or sell drugs but that seems a little harsh. Especially seeing how messed up our justice system is sometimes with innocent people being found guilty, now they're dead within 30 days with no chance to appeal?

 

[sequins]

Don't worry Kach, the idea of a 30 day death penalty for any level of crime isn't trending any time soon.

 

[Tirod]

Have to ask why the perp is considered a drug dealer when the evidence clearly suggests he's running guns into a restricted state.

GUN smuggler, not drug dealer.

$2500 isn't chump change, but he should have been in possession of kilos of drugs, not an ounce - and if he had just made a deal, then add another zero to the cash on hand.

What we may be seeing is a media twist to make the gun running look unimportant, when it's apparently the entire point of what was in inventory. And the followup thought is that the State laws aren't working because criminals don't care. Laws like that don't stop them, they create more opportunity for illegal business.

Hello, it's the same logic that says "Make marijuana legal and get the taxes from it." rather than create an illegal drug market in the first place. But, no, now the states in question have created trade in stolen firearms where before there was much less of it.

That's the unintended consequence and now they have to expend even more tax dollars trying to clean up something that didn't previously exist to that degree and add more to their plate.

That is a definite fail in "governance" which needs to be highlighted at every opportunity.

 

[MachIVshooter]

Are there stats to back that up?

The vast majority of black market guns are stolen, and therefore, the SELLER has few options on how to get rid of it.

I don't know where you'd find such statistics, or how one could determine with any degree of accuracy that "most" of them are stolen.

What I do know from watching some interviews and sting videos is that there seem to be plenty of criminals who don't want a "hot" gun, whether it be stolen (possible 10 year sentence) or one that could possibly get them tied to a homicide (possible life or death sentence) when they have the option of paying more for a "clean" piece that was either bought in a straw purchase or smuggled into the country.

And it makes sense; if they get caught carrying but the weapon is "clean", maybe they're just looking at underage possession, unlicensed concealed carry or some other misdemeanor. That's probably worth a premium to the smart ones, whereas the moron packing a stolen piece or one with the S/N ground off can spend a decade in club fed for the stolen gun/removed SN alone.

No, I don't know anyone in that underworld, but based on those interviews and videos of undercover stings, a "clean" Glock on the black market can be north of $800

 

[Onmilo]

Why do drug dealers carry guns?
To protect themselves from the people who rip off drug dealers!
Funny how that works isn't it,,,