Only thing I have to add on the subject is that ccw in resteraunts and full-on bars is perfectly legal here in OR, and there is no specific law that deals with firearms use, carry, or posession with alcohol in your system, and I have yet to hear of a legal ccw permit holder having a ND or shooting someone in a bar (excluding legit self defense obviously, but I havent even ever heard of THAT happening), and we all seem to do just fine and are able to control our guns, ourselves, and our drinking while out. And having observed enough people in this state, I certainly cabnt say it's because the population here is any smarter or has bettre self control than anywhere else.It's just that those responsible enought to legally ccw, also seem to magically be responsible enough to know how to handle themselves in the presence of guns and alcohol.For some, maybe that means no drinking at all.Fine by me.For others, maybe it means being responsible, and knowing when to say when when carrying, or when to not carry in the first place knowing you plan on having more than you feel is responsible to carry under.Also fine. It's all about being a responsible adult, and exercising common sense and self control.
If one is not responsible enough, and has enough self control to know how to deal with guns and alcohol safely, I'm willing to bet that even without a gun, they would drink and drive while over the limit, which is stupid and dangerous, or would manage to shoot themselves or someone else even while sober. Irresponsible with lack of self control is irresponsible with lack of self control. it isnt just limited to alcohol, or guns.Those who are like that will be that way about EVERYTHING in thier lives.some will wise up and/or grow up, others will not. Some will get lucky and never harm themselves or anyone else by thier irresponsibility and lack of self control, other will in some way, and dont need a gun, alcohol, or a car to do it.
It about the person, not the thing, just like we always tell the anti's about guns and criminals.