EDITORIAL - Doug Thompson Dumps On Gun Owners (ala Zumbo)

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The NRA's jack-booted thugs

Tuesday, February 27th, 2007 | 9:06 am

By DOUG THOMPSON

I’m a longtime gun-owner, a lifelong hunter and a firm supporter of the Second Amendment that grants Americans the right to own and bear arms.

I also was, until recently, a member of the National Rifle Association. I turned in my membership card after the midterm elections because of the organization’s unabashed support of crooked Congressman Tom DeLay (R-TX) and racist Senator George Allen (R-VA).

Fortunately, both DeLay and Allen are gone from the halls of Congress. DeLay quit amid his mounting ethical problems and investigations into his criminal behavior. Allen lost his re-election bid to Jim Webb, also an NRA member.

NRA’s support of both men showed me the organization cared more about protecting elected officials they had in the bag than about morality, ethics or doing the right thing.

So I quit - tossing out back issues of American Rifleman, scraping the NRA decal off the windshield of my Jeep and sending my membership card back in the mail with a two-page letter explaining my reasons for quitting.

No one at NRA responded. I didn’t expect them do. I’ve known Wayne LaPierre, the head honcho at NRA, for more than 20 years. His arrogance exemplifies the NRA and its attitude towards anyone who disagrees with their lockstep mentality.

I also know Jim Zumbo, a gregarious outdoorsman who wrote for Outdoor Life magazine and hosted a popular show on the Outdoor Channel. Zumbo is both a straight shooter and a straight talker who says what he thinks - an admirable trait in most circles but not in the blinders-driven world of the NRA and gun fanatics.

On Feb. 16, Zumbo wrote on his blog on the Outdoor Life Web Site that he didn’t see any reason for hunters to need assault weapons.

“Excuse me, maybe I’m a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity,” Zumbo said. “As hunters, we don’t need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them. I’ll go so far as to call them ‘terrorist’ rifles.”

Zumbo put into words what many hunters, me included, believe. I own enough weapons to start a small war but my collection does not include an assault weapon nor will one ever find a place in my gun safe. If others want to waste good money on those plastic, macho, wannabe toys, that’s their foolishness. I don’t support banning the assault-style rifles because I don’t believe it is the role of government to save people from their own stupidity.

On the other hand, I don’t need an AR-15 to hunt deer, squirrel, quail or turkey in the mountains around my home. No real hunter has a legitimate need for such weaponry. In fact, most of the clowns I’ve seen waving assault-style weapons around are para-military wannabes — just like the ones who blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City and killed innocent men, women and children.

Zumbo didn’t advocate banning the weapons. He simply said real hunters don’t have any need for one. But that didn’t stop the NRA and its klavern of gun nuts from coming down on him with guns blazing. Assault gun owners, and the companies that make them, demanded Zumbo be fired from Outdoor Life and the Outdoor Channel. The cable channel suspended his show, he resigned from Outdoor Life after 6,000 readers sent in email demanding he be fired and Remington Arms Company, which makes assault rifles, severed its sponsorship of his program and activities.

The NRA cited Zumbo as a warning to anyone - including “fellow gun owners” - that opposing them publicly can be dangerous. LaPierre, in typical arrogant fashion, warned Congress to “take note” of what happened to Zumbo as an example of the consequences of crossing the gun lobby.

If I had not sent in my membership card after the NRA’s disgraceful performance during the November midterm elections, it would be in the mail now as a protest and expression of disgust over the treatment of Jim Zumbo.

The overreaction by the gun community has forced Zumbo to step back from his principles and try to salvage his livelihood. He apologized for his remarks and has offered to go hunting with an assault weapon - a capitulation I find disturbing but not surprising given a need to make a living.

I doubt Zumbo’s retrenchment will work. The gun lobby doesn’t forgive and it doesn’t forget. During the Clinton years, LaPierre criticized the Justice Department of then Attorney General Janet Reno and called federal agents “jack-booted thugs.”

Where I come from that’s known as the pot calling the kettle black.
 
The guy needs an education. But alas he will probably not listen. The"Jack-booted thurg" remark came from John Dingel and Democrat. It was well placed because of Ruby Ridge and Waco. This guy also needs to realize Mcveigh BOMBED the building and did not kill one person there with ANY firearm including the so called ugly black rifles. Wonder what this bozo thinks of a litttle blonde female physician owning those "terrorist" rifles. Mabye he thinks I will terrorize him with my scapel. LOL. He sounds like he is from you know what side of the political isle and his rant sounds more political than logical. I think the way our ploice forces acted at Ruby Ridge and Waco was uncalled for and criminal. So does my elderly mother and she is no NUT.
 
"Zumbo didn’t advocate banning the weapons."

Peharps he doesn't read very well... to wit...

"I say governments should ban them from the streets and our nation."
 
I own enough weapons to start a small war but my collection does not include an assault weapon nor will one ever find a place in my gun safe.

Hmmm. So he smugly admits he owns an "arsenal," the likes of which could "start a small war," but he doesn't like black plastic "wannabe toy" guns?

Who is this guy?:rolleyes:
 
This guy is neither an NRA supporter or a gun rights advocate. He is typical of the Brady shills who want to keep the Zumbo topic a hot-button issue in hopes of splitting hunters and shooters into two separate camps. A game that far too many shooters are playing into by writing guys like this with ill-advised comments that are then used to further wedge the two groups apart.

Brady has already been doing well at splitting law enforcement from gun owners. If they succeed in putting a wedge between shooters and hunters as well, they will pretty much have their work done for them.

Now somebody who doesn't support the Second Amendment isn't our friend regardless of how many animals they shoot on an annual basis and we don't lose anything by not supporting them because they weren't contributing anything to us to begin with.

However, reading Petzal's blog and Zumbo, a lot of shooters are painting with WAY too broad a brush. Hunters who just don't care about EBRs are potential allies who can be educated. A ranting flamefest that denigrates them simply because they hunt and aren't interested in semis is as ignorant and divisive as calling EBRs "terrorist rifles" and suggesting that their owners be thrown under a bus.
 
Change the type of firearm to say an SUV, and the article gets even better, almost like a form letter...

On Feb. 16, Mr Z wrote on his blog on the Automobile Life Web Site that he didn’t see any reason for automobile-owners to need SUV's.

“Excuse me, maybe I’m a traditionalist, but I see no place for these automobiles among our automobile fraternity,” Mr Z said. “As automobile-owners, we don’t need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them. I’ll go so far as to call them ‘terrorist’ vehicles.”

Mr Z put into words what many automobile-owners, me included, believe. I own enough automobiles to start a small carlot but my collection does not include a SUV nor will one ever find a place in my garage. If others want to waste good money on those oversized, macho, gas guzlers, that’s their foolishness. I don’t support banning the SUV-style vehicles because I don’t believe it is the role of government to save people from their own stupidity.


Here is the comment I left at the website:

Change the type of firearm to say an SUV, and the article gets even better, almost like a form letter…

“On Feb. 16, Mr Z wrote on his blog on the Automobile Life Web Site that he didn’t see any reason for automobile-owners to need SUV’s.

“Excuse me, maybe I’m a traditionalist, but I see no place for these automobiles among our automobile fraternity,” Mr Z said. “As automobile-owners, we don’t need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them. I’ll go so far as to call them ‘terrorist’ vehicles.”

Mr Z put into words what many automobile-owners, me included, believe. I own enough automobiles to start a small carlot but my collection does not include a SUV nor will one ever find a place in my garage. If others want to waste good money on those oversized, macho, gas guzlers, that’s their foolishness. I don’t support banning the SUV-style vehicles because I don’t believe it is the role of government to save people from their own stupidity.”

See you can substitute any menacing object for the “demon of the day”, this is an attempt to divide firearms owners into camps, one of the worst things we do as firearms owners is “eat our own” we should rally together, not be divided.

Doug Thompson, you sir are a Brady shill, neither an NRA supporter nor a gun rights advocate, this is a further attempt to drive a wedge between firearms owners.
 
This is all part of the anti campaign building up to another AWB. The Brady bunch is becoming more and more insane as time goes on without their big victory. They promised their followers a total ban on handguns 30 years ago and they are still waiting, and coming more unglued with every year that doesn't happen. They switched to a ban on "assault weapons" which has been more successful, but still has not gone far enough for the extremists.

Zumbo and Thompson are nothing more than paid Brady shills. If Zumbo has not already taken a high paying job with AHSA or the Brady campaign, it is a pretty sure bet that he soon will. I don't know much about Thompson, but I suspect he is lying - about NRA membership, about having guns, about everything.

By the way, note the way Thompson brought race into the picture by trying to associate gun owners with the KKK ("klavern of gun nuts"), a typical leftist tactic. Just goes to show the utter lack of scruples on the part of the anti-gun gang.

Also note his statement that a ban on assault rifles is one of Zumbo's "principles", giving the lie to Zumbo himself who claims he simply made a mistake. These nutsos can't even get their acts together.

Jim
 
I’m a longtime gun-owner, a lifelong hunter and a firm supporter of the Second Amendment that grants Americans the right to own and bear arms.
He lost me right there in the first line. He doen't know what the 2A is, let alone support it.

And what did the NRA (the antis' favorite whipping boy) have to do with Zumbo's fall? Nothing at all. That was a grass roots response that wasn't "led" by anyone or any organization.

Bye, bye, Doug Thompson. Whoever you were.
 
out of curiosity, he also says this --
Oh really? Then why did I get an email alert from the NRA headquarters on the day Zumbo’s blog post appeared? It urged me to write Outdoor Life and the Outdoor Channel and demand that Zumbo be fired? You see, the NRA still has me on their mailing list even though I quit their organization.

I never got an email like that.

Did anyone else here? Or is he outright lying?

-K
 
Jim Keenen wrote:
By the way, note the way Thompson brought race into the picture by trying to associate gun owners with the KKK ("klavern of gun nuts"), a typical leftist tactic. Just goes to show the utter lack of scruples on the part of the anti-gun gang.

But if we call them "the communist gun-hating Bradys" we're "attacking" them.
 
Kaylee said:

out of curiosity, he also says this --

Quote: "Oh really? Then why did I get an email alert from the NRA headquarters on the day Zumbo’s blog post appeared? It urged me to write Outdoor Life and the Outdoor Channel and demand that Zumbo be fired?
You see, the NRA still has me on their mailing list even though I quit their organization."

I never got an email like that.

Did anyone else here? Or is he outright lying?

I don't know if it is true, but I already have a call into the NRA to confirm several aspects of his article and if my suspicians are confirmed, we will be posting the information on the fastest growing internet news website.... News Flash Radio.com.
 
So, here is a relevant question:

Who is this guy?

Seriously...is he just someone who wrote an editorial?

Is he someone who has a column at a newspaper?

Is he another writer for Outdoor Life? ;)

Is he a "sportsman" that the Brady Bunch propped up to spew their talking points?

I've never heard of him before, so I'm somewhat curious.

Mike
 
"I'm range qualified with both my Glock 19 and my Beretta 92", whatever that means. Wooooooo....... :D
 
Me neither

I never got anything from the NRA even though I am a member and have been for years. Also, Henry you got it squarely right, 'Grants the right' my butt...
 
Coronach, he's apparently a freelance journalist. He writes "The Rant" column for Capitol Hill Blue (a supposedly non-partisan online political news/experiment/project in...something. Journalism would be my guess).

I don't see that he's a famous writer for any outdoor, hunting, or firearm-oriented publications. I have no idea what kind of readership he has. I place him at the "well-known blogger" level, but that's just a guess.
 
www.dougthompson.com/wp/

"02 10th, 2007 One site at a time

I’ve been pre-occupied for the past few weeks with changes on my political news web site, Capitol Hill Blue.

As soon as I get caught up there, I’ll concentrate on this site.

read comments (0)"
 
unfortunately, an ability to write does not require an ability to think.

hope he doesnt let the NRA door hit him on the way out
 
A question…

Who regulates hunting in this country? Obviously not this or that outdoors, or firearms writers. No, the right answer is the Fish & Game Departments (by what ever name) in the various states.

Have any of them prohibited the use of “assault rifles” for hunting? Not that I know of, beyond magazine capacity limits that applies to all semi-automatic rifles.

So if the Fish & Game folks don’t have their undies in a knot over military look-a-likes in the field, it would appear that they see them as being acceptable, if not appropriate, for “sporting purposes” within a hunting context.

They are also aware of the importance of presenting hunters and hunting in a positive light, but they clearly don’t see military-style firearms as being an issue. Otherwise they’d be acting to at least discourage, if not outright ban they’re use.

So since this is the case, why do we care about what a handful of mostly unknown writers – with questionable motives – think? Oh sure, their positions should be rebutted - but in the process ask why the Fish & Game Departments don't see things their way? :evil:
 
The NRA is an imperfect organization operating in an imperfect world. It has to deal in Washington for crying out loud. It will look for allies wherever it can. That is just the game.
Sure it does things that annoy me. Yes it supports policies and reps that kind of make me scratch the back of my neck and look around.
But dancing with devils is par for the course in D.C..
As for his ad hominem stance on "assault weapons". Oh boy...
You can get a semi-automatic, magazine fed, gas operated, air cooled rifle from most major gun manufacturers. From Browning, Benelli, Ruger, to Springfield Armory.
A Ruger mini-30 operates on the exact same mechanical principles as a Armalite AR-10. But the AR-10 looks more threatening.

A true assault weapon has a selector switch for full automatic fire. As far as I know that is illegal.
I fully concede that is pure military feature.
 
Looking at my email archives, I received no such email from the NRA on Feb. 16th, which was the day Zumbo posted his rant.

For those who are interested in a timeline of events, this one's pretty handy.

In fact, I can't seem to locate any email alert dealing with the Zumbo saga. Anyone else here find anything like that in their archives?
 
That guy Doug Thompson is getting his butt handed to him. I left him a piece of my mind; not that its going to do any good. He's not sponsored by anyone in the shooting industry is he? It looks like he's just a journalist with a blog.
 
Doug Thompson said:
Oh really? Then why did I get an email alert from the NRA headquarters on the day Zumbo’s blog post appeared? It urged me to write Outdoor Life and the Outdoor Channel and demand that Zumbo be fired? You see, the NRA still has me on their mailing list even though I quit their organization.

I call shenanigans. There was no such NRA alert email or any other alert email about Zumbo. Period.
 
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