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I've asked him to reproduce the email he received.
EDITORIAL - Doug Thompson Dumps On Gun Owners (ala Zumbo)
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I am also calling out this Doug Thompson person; I am an NRA member and received no such e-mail from the NRA or the NRA-ILA about this during the period of time in question.
I would also like to know whose definition of "assault weapon" he is using. Is it one of the states' definitions? The old federal one or one of the many new ones? New York City's?
Funny how the term gets thrown around so much and yet there is not a single concise definition of what an "assault weapon" actually is.
I would also like to know whose definition of "assault weapon" he is using. Is it one of the states' definitions? The old federal one or one of the many new ones? New York City's?
Funny how the term gets thrown around so much and yet there is not a single concise definition of what an "assault weapon" actually is.
Travis McGee
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"In fact, most of the clowns I’ve seen waving assault-style weapons around are para-military wannabes — just like the ones who blew up the Federal Building in Oklahoma City and killed innocent men, women and children."
GRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried to post a response over there, but received an error... Anyway this is what I wanted to say,
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I call them "assault" commentators, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these commentators among our news reporting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" columnists. They tell me that some publishing companies are hiring opinion only commentators."
Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these people have no place in the free press. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with their inflammatory opinions, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that real reporters don't use opinion pieces. We've always been proud of our "Freedom of the Press."
This really has me concerned. As reporters, we don't need the image published by these opinionated writers. To most of the public, an Op Ed piece is as good as real news. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say Supreme Court should ban them from the newspapers and magazines.
As goes the second,, so goes the first.
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I call them "assault" commentators, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these commentators among our news reporting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" columnists. They tell me that some publishing companies are hiring opinion only commentators."
Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these people have no place in the free press. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with their inflammatory opinions, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that real reporters don't use opinion pieces. We've always been proud of our "Freedom of the Press."
This really has me concerned. As reporters, we don't need the image published by these opinionated writers. To most of the public, an Op Ed piece is as good as real news. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say Supreme Court should ban them from the newspapers and magazines.
As goes the second,, so goes the first.
Cosmoline
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Why do these idiots keep harping about the NRA? The NRA had BUPKUS to do with the Zumbo business. They didn't even respond to it for several days.
He says this in response:
I never got such a thing, and this guy says he had quit the NRA some time ago so I'm wondering why he would have gotten such a thing. Did anyone get an alert about Zumo? If so when did the alert go out? It sounds like none of us got this mysterious NRA conspiracy letter.
OK, I went to the NRA website. This was the alert for the 16th:
http://www.nraila.org/GrassrootsAlerts/Read.aspx?ID=379
This for the 23rd:
http://www.nraila.org/GrassrootsAlerts/Read.aspx?ID=379
Nothing about Zumbo at all. In fact this is the NRA's FIRST AND ONLY announcement re. Zumbo, which came on THURSDAY well after the fiasco
http://www.nraila.org//News/Read/Releases.aspx?ID=8952
I think we caught this blogger in an L-I-E
The more I read on his site..... :banghead:
Tim McVeigh was not a "para-military wannabe" Seargant McVeigh completed PLDC, served in the Gulf War, received the Bronze Star and CIB. Wannabe?? I think he was a military type. Despite his meth use, as well as denouncing his US Citizenship and subsequent murder of innocent people, he did serve this Country. I doubt many of these hunter/fudd anti-gun types can make that claim.
Tim McVeigh was not a "para-military wannabe" Seargant McVeigh completed PLDC, served in the Gulf War, received the Bronze Star and CIB. Wannabe?? I think he was a military type. Despite his meth use, as well as denouncing his US Citizenship and subsequent murder of innocent people, he did serve this Country. I doubt many of these hunter/fudd anti-gun types can make that claim.
Zundfolge
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Becaue in anti-speak, NRA = Gun Culture
Axman
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Any rifle used in an assault becomes an assault rifle, BAN THEM ALL!!!
Sometimes the squeaky wheel - especially 1 with an agenda full of lies and assanine comments, should just be ignored.
Let this clown go back under the rock which was hiding him - he wants Zumbo spotlight & heat for his own glorification.
No one ever heard of him before, and it should be kept that way.
Let this clown go back under the rock which was hiding him - he wants Zumbo spotlight & heat for his own glorification.
No one ever heard of him before, and it should be kept that way.
Remember Doug Thompson doesn't have lucrative company endorsements to go after. He is a freelance writer. Complaining to those who publish him will in most cases up readership by those wanting to see a good fight. This is one that cant be won by conventional means. He personally insulted ME. I live too far away to deal with it personally. I will remember him in case I by chance meet him. Some lessons have to really hurt to be understood.
Some lessons have to really hurt to be understood.Desk Jockey
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Perhaps you're right. I assaulted an elk with a bolt-action Winchester two years ago, and a doe with a lever-action .30-30 last fall. Clearly, these weapons are dangerous to our animal friends and should be tightly controlled.
As soon as my freezer is empty and my new hunting tags are valid, I'll be back out there controlling my assault weapons to the best of my ability.
Brett Bellmore
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Don't Tread On Me
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All the scum who portray themselves as gun owners and defenders of a RKBA, but are really saboteurs engaging in subversion by perpetuating the 2A = hunting deserve to be outed and smeared for what they are.
Our movement needs to do some HOUSE CLEANING. We can use a good katharsis, because honestly, with allies like these - who needs enemies?
If this makes some hunters resent us more - too bad I say! It's not like we had their help in 1994 anyway. So far, they've been an obstacle to progress, not allies. I do believe we should fight for their support and try and get them to see the light. But we need not cry over their lack of support, since it was never there.
I'm confident that there's a good percentage of hunters that are allies, and that there's another good percentage that can be brought over to our side. However, there are many who will never be convinced.
I don't care what Zumbo or anyone else ever says. There's no apology, no mistake about what he said. That was a confessional. There's no misspeaking or accident about it. You cannot accidentally say those things because they are long held, well thought out BELIEFS.
Anyone who believes that I own "terrorist weapons" because I have an AR-15 is the equivalent of a Bradyite. No difference whatsoever.
I wouldn't be surprised if some leftist gun-banner paid him to cause division between hunters and shooters. Isn't it an incredible COINCIDENCE that this schism is occurring now that the Democrats have power and they have introduced an AWB? Wow ...what a koinkydink!
Our movement needs to do some HOUSE CLEANING. We can use a good katharsis, because honestly, with allies like these - who needs enemies?
If this makes some hunters resent us more - too bad I say! It's not like we had their help in 1994 anyway. So far, they've been an obstacle to progress, not allies. I do believe we should fight for their support and try and get them to see the light. But we need not cry over their lack of support, since it was never there.
I'm confident that there's a good percentage of hunters that are allies, and that there's another good percentage that can be brought over to our side. However, there are many who will never be convinced.
I don't care what Zumbo or anyone else ever says. There's no apology, no mistake about what he said. That was a confessional. There's no misspeaking or accident about it. You cannot accidentally say those things because they are long held, well thought out BELIEFS.
Anyone who believes that I own "terrorist weapons" because I have an AR-15 is the equivalent of a Bradyite. No difference whatsoever.
I wouldn't be surprised if some leftist gun-banner paid him to cause division between hunters and shooters. Isn't it an incredible COINCIDENCE that this schism is occurring now that the Democrats have power and they have introduced an AWB? Wow ...what a koinkydink!
Henry Bowman said:
Slick. I just clicked on the link and it seems "grants" has magically changed to "protects."
Good job Duncan223 for posting the original.
ETA: Someone else caught it too: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/wp/2007/02/27/2214#comment-12151
adobewalls
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Y'know I was out of town on business when the Zumbo thing broke and I did not know what was going on. BUT, I do remember seeing the frontpage of USA today at the Hotel a few days before - which just happened to be carrying an article about Police Chiefs complaining about all the "assault weapons" out there.
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070220/1a_lede20.art.htm
It seems to me that this, and the noise we are hearing from "gun owners" against EBR's is a little bit too coincidental.
http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20070220/1a_lede20.art.htm
It seems to me that this, and the noise we are hearing from "gun owners" against EBR's is a little bit too coincidental.
No prob.... but, that is why it is so damn important for the OP to ALWAYS post the complete article, and not just a link to an article (or blog). We need to nail these anti-RIGHTS people every time the raise their ugly head. Kind of like the "whack a mole" game.
They make a claim, we disprove it. They claim the comment was a misquote, WE show the actual comment.
These people cannot win when their agenda is made public.
ReadyontheRight
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When will these Quislings wake up and realize that most of the folks who agree with them go on to say "He's right! and you don't need a high-power scope on a sniper rifle to kill bambi" and "maybe hunting is OK if you use a bow and arrow" and finally "hunting should be outlawed".
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