Marshall
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M1 .30 Caliber Carbine, find you a 30rd banana clip.
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Equipping a boat
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Nightcrawler
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Hmm....
For the rifle, I'd go with either a FAL or an M1A with synthetic furniture. Iron sights only, and don't bother with things like bipods.
A Garand would be sufficient too. Sure, you're going to have clips popping out. But then, you're going to have brass rolling around anyway. Clips a buck apiece, so if you can afford a thirty foot boat, you can afford plenty of them.
Other than that...what others have said. Stainless revolver in .357 or .44, stainless or nickel plated shotgun to go with.
For the rifle, I'd go with either a FAL or an M1A with synthetic furniture. Iron sights only, and don't bother with things like bipods.
A Garand would be sufficient too. Sure, you're going to have clips popping out. But then, you're going to have brass rolling around anyway. Clips a buck apiece, so if you can afford a thirty foot boat, you can afford plenty of them.
Other than that...what others have said. Stainless revolver in .357 or .44, stainless or nickel plated shotgun to go with.
sixgun_symphony
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For newbies, I would go with the KISS rule.
Definately have some stainless steel or marine finish 12ga or 20ga pump-shotguns for passing out to the passengers.
I might also stash some stainless steel or nickel plated .38 special revolvers for passing out to the passengers as well.
Nickel plated Colt Official Police w/ 5" bbl .38 Special
seeker_two
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At least one of each of the following:
6" .357mag revolver.
2" or 3" .357mag revolver.
SS 12 ga. pump shotgun (buck, bird, & slug loads)
Stainless lever-action rifle in .30-30, .45-70, or other hunting calibers (no pistol calibers).
The reason I recommend the lever-action is:
Ease & quickness of use.
Less "threatening" to authorities than semi-autos.
More reliable in hostile weather conditions.
Good luck.
6" .357mag revolver.
2" or 3" .357mag revolver.
SS 12 ga. pump shotgun (buck, bird, & slug loads)
Stainless lever-action rifle in .30-30, .45-70, or other hunting calibers (no pistol calibers).
The reason I recommend the lever-action is:
Ease & quickness of use.
Less "threatening" to authorities than semi-autos.
More reliable in hostile weather conditions.
Good luck.
JamisJockey
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Wow! Lots of food for thought here.
For the size of boat I want, I'll probably cut down on the firepower. 1 readily available 12gauge in a 'marine' configuration and a kept high power high cap rifle, oiled and sealed from the elements. I'll just bring my CCW on board with me.
Could be 2 years, could be 10, just seemed like a fun topic to start. Wife and I want to move back to NC...wife more than I. I've made this a requirement and the wife has submitted!
The tradition remains
the seas' in my veins
I'm just glad I don't live in a trailer....
For the size of boat I want, I'll probably cut down on the firepower. 1 readily available 12gauge in a 'marine' configuration and a kept high power high cap rifle, oiled and sealed from the elements. I'll just bring my CCW on board with me.
Could be 2 years, could be 10, just seemed like a fun topic to start. Wife and I want to move back to NC...wife more than I. I've made this a requirement and the wife has submitted!
The tradition remains
the seas' in my veins
I'm just glad I don't live in a trailer....
NewShooter78
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And don't forget the water tight storage boxes for the firepower and the ammo. One can never have too much dry storage! And always have the Coast Guard frequency ready. (I come from a Coasty family so no wise crack about the CG, the most active duty yet not DoD military branch!)
JamisJockey
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No Coastie cracks here. I've seen them in action and respect them, mostly for thier seamanship and rescue abilities.
Spent time on a charter boat and various friends boats as a teenager fishing offshore and inshore NC. Have caught or hooked up with nearly everything that swims on the East coast. Love it, miss it, wish I could live it....
Spent time on a charter boat and various friends boats as a teenager fishing offshore and inshore NC. Have caught or hooked up with nearly everything that swims on the East coast. Love it, miss it, wish I could live it....
NewShooter78
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I'm mostly a freshwater fisherman, but being so close the the Gulf always has me jonesing to go out on a boat just to be out there and away from everything. Packing of course 
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.JamisJockey
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I'm hoping to buy something that will serve as a vacation boat. Since we'd be about 4 hours from the coast when we move to NC, it'd be used on weekends, etc. Lots of opportunities to cruise the inter coastal areas in NC, including the 'outer banks'.
Love freshwater fishing for warmwater species. I've had a good time fishing here in UT for brown and cutthroat trout, but would rather be tossing soft plastics to a bucket mouth or trolling ballyhoo for Mahi Mahi....
Attached pic is from the Green River, Ut. about 10 miles below Flaming Gorge Resv. Brown Trout, est. 16", on spinning tackle 6lb line and Maribou jig
To keep it gun related, I had my Ruger P95 (since sold) with me.
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Gordon
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As I posted a month ago I outfitted and stainless welded hidden (ingeniously) water tight compartments in friends 54 ft Motor sailer. He is well below the Sea of Cortez now. He carries on his person a SP101 Ruger .357. He has a Marlin 30-30 stainless with scope, a Stainless Rem. Marine 12ga pump. with slugs buck and shot(1 box of 25 each) , and a 10-22 ruger stainlesswith a brick of ammo. He has a dink capable of taking his motorcycle onshore. He and wife and 1 hand are going to Panama at least. They avoid ports, instead remote moor. Yes they have big sat phone. He called me couple weeks ago from Sea of Cortez , no problems yet.He keeps guns/ammo in their hiding places which appear as engine coolers until electrically opened!
NewShooter78
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Gordon,
That sounds like an awsome rig you set up for your buddy. I don't think I'd want to go that far south without a small collection of firearms with me either. But one question, what is the fail safe opening procedure if he looses electricity? Are they just electric locks or are the secret doors on pnumatic pistons as well?
That sounds like an awsome rig you set up for your buddy. I don't think I'd want to go that far south without a small collection of firearms with me either. But one question, what is the fail safe opening procedure if he looses electricity? Are they just electric locks or are the secret doors on pnumatic pistons as well?
Travis McGee
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Gordon
That sounds like a nice setup, but it hightlights the damed if you do damned if you don't nature of taking guns to foreign countries.
If his hidden guns are ever found, he'll be in the klink for years. One pistol found aboard in Mexico will get you several years, no ifs ands or buts. At best, you will lose your boat, using it as bribe bait to ransom yourself a plane ticket out...if you're lucky. If you're not, it could be 20 years for the guns you listed, hard time in the roach motel.
I've been through te Bahama, Jamaica and Panama on boats with guns recently, but I won't go to Mexico with one, no way. "But if I did" I would only take a throw away that I would not hesitate to deep six. Say a 100$ tokareve or makarov bought for cash, ready to drop over board. The fancy s/s rifles in Mexico will just get you penitentiary time.
That sounds like a nice setup, but it hightlights the damed if you do damned if you don't nature of taking guns to foreign countries.
If his hidden guns are ever found, he'll be in the klink for years. One pistol found aboard in Mexico will get you several years, no ifs ands or buts. At best, you will lose your boat, using it as bribe bait to ransom yourself a plane ticket out...if you're lucky. If you're not, it could be 20 years for the guns you listed, hard time in the roach motel.
I've been through te Bahama, Jamaica and Panama on boats with guns recently, but I won't go to Mexico with one, no way. "But if I did" I would only take a throw away that I would not hesitate to deep six. Say a 100$ tokareve or makarov bought for cash, ready to drop over board. The fancy s/s rifles in Mexico will just get you penitentiary time.
I've heard 2 versions of this argument.
#1 get a marine coated shotgun, it can launch flares, shot, whatever.
#2 arm yourself to the teeth and don't say a damn word about it.
I suppose it depends on where you are boating, right? Not like we are all facing S. China Sea pirates?
(I'd seriously check with the Coast Guard before choosing option #2.)
#1 get a marine coated shotgun, it can launch flares, shot, whatever.
#2 arm yourself to the teeth and don't say a damn word about it.
I suppose it depends on where you are boating, right? Not like we are all facing S. China Sea pirates?
(I'd seriously check with the Coast Guard before choosing option #2.)
goosegunner
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I would go for: - 4-guage flare-gun, rem. 870, and your favourite handgun because:
*You will probably not know another boats intentions before it is close and you see a gun in the other boat or they try to board you, so what you will need is a weapon that can be used to keep a BG off your boat (or get him back into the water), so shotguns and handguns would probably be do the job best.
*You will have no backstop so a bullet from a rifle will easily go several kilometers before it stops, not a problem in open sea but I am nearly always within 4nm of a havily populated coastline, and a bullet could go that far if it only hits water
*I will go for a pump action because shotgun-shells don't like water very well, and it would be nice to be able to get a new(and hopefully dry) shell into the chamber real quick.
*A 4-guage flare gun would be able start a fire in the pirates/BG's/wathever's boat and would probably disable a man if you hit him, and it is a weapon you can have aboard if you go someplace you can't bring a "real" firearm.
*I think stainless or not is not very important because all the small parts: springs, firingpin, etc. often is of black-steel in ss and nickel-plated guns.
*You will probably not know another boats intentions before it is close and you see a gun in the other boat or they try to board you, so what you will need is a weapon that can be used to keep a BG off your boat (or get him back into the water), so shotguns and handguns would probably be do the job best.
*You will have no backstop so a bullet from a rifle will easily go several kilometers before it stops, not a problem in open sea but I am nearly always within 4nm of a havily populated coastline, and a bullet could go that far if it only hits water
*I will go for a pump action because shotgun-shells don't like water very well, and it would be nice to be able to get a new(and hopefully dry) shell into the chamber real quick.
*A 4-guage flare gun would be able start a fire in the pirates/BG's/wathever's boat and would probably disable a man if you hit him, and it is a weapon you can have aboard if you go someplace you can't bring a "real" firearm.
*I think stainless or not is not very important because all the small parts: springs, firingpin, etc. often is of black-steel in ss and nickel-plated guns.
Gordon
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If the selenoids fail on the stainless. er , exhaust cooler, you unbolt the what appears gasketed water chamber and voila. The exhaust does pass thru the center of 48" x 14" box but it is already cooled by manifold cooler and I Insulated the pipe, guns dont get above 120 degrees and THAT drives out moisture!He is out of Mexican waters and into Central America Mosquito coast, He said in certain countries he would toss Ruger.He never keeps ammo around unhidden. Also hiding place is the bank vault, I think he took $100.000 for planned 18 month cruise.Yes he does have flare gun of course.
Sven
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I'd sleep with one eye open, and the guns at ready. Jeeze.
natedog
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one more thing to add to your weapons: a ruger m77 in .308 or 30-06. stainless steel, accurate, quick, smooth bolt, and pretty cheap. you can pick them up at wal mart for $400. now just add a nice scope and your set.
JamisJockey
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I agree that a bolt gun doesn't have much place on an open water fishing boat. Ever shot a gun from a boat? Unstable platform that pitches unpredictably, even in mild seas. I've shot skeet off the back of a moving off-shore boat...and its not easy.
personally, I'm mostly concerned with in ports and mooring areas.
Of course....finding out lately I might be stuck in UT for awhile.....:banghead:
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deanf
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Since the issue of legality has only been lightly touched on, I will ask.
Obviously in international waters it's anything goes. What about the territorial waters of the U.S. or inland waters? What's legal to have on board? Let's take Puget Sound, for example. I'm guessing Washington gun laws would apply? So does the USCG have any jurisdiction to enforce state law?
What about in a state that does not have firearms law preemption? The laws of the closest municipality apply? Or is there some martime law that trumps everything?
Obviously in international waters it's anything goes. What about the territorial waters of the U.S. or inland waters? What's legal to have on board? Let's take Puget Sound, for example. I'm guessing Washington gun laws would apply? So does the USCG have any jurisdiction to enforce state law?
What about in a state that does not have firearms law preemption? The laws of the closest municipality apply? Or is there some martime law that trumps everything?
Travis McGee-
Yes, I recognize that you're using the name of a fictional character. Didn't he live on a boat, maybe in Florida?
Please do discuss considerations, legal and otherwise, of having guns on boats in the Caribbean and in/around the Latin American countries, and any US Coast Guard or other regs pertaining to US-registered boats.
Thanks,
Lone Star
P.S. Wouldn't FN-FAL or M1-A .308's be sound rifle choices? I'd think a stainless .357 or stainless .45 auto would be sound ideas, except that many or most American countries ban military calibers. That'd eliminate the 7.62X51mm/.308's, too...
Yes, I recognize that you're using the name of a fictional character. Didn't he live on a boat, maybe in Florida?
Please do discuss considerations, legal and otherwise, of having guns on boats in the Caribbean and in/around the Latin American countries, and any US Coast Guard or other regs pertaining to US-registered boats.
Thanks,
Lone Star
P.S. Wouldn't FN-FAL or M1-A .308's be sound rifle choices? I'd think a stainless .357 or stainless .45 auto would be sound ideas, except that many or most American countries ban military calibers. That'd eliminate the 7.62X51mm/.308's, too...
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