Ever wanted to slap yo mamma?

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JRWhit

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Easy guys, Title is just an attention grabber.

A short while ago I was visiting with my Mom, when she piped up," Oh, I didn't tell you what happened to me at Walmart.".
She began to tell me that about two weeks prior to my visit with her, She was making a quick trip into local Wm off peak hours. There wasn't much traffic there and as she was checking out there was just one couple behind her. As she was walking out to her car, the other couple came out behind her. At this point she said she really hadn't noted anything alarming or suspicious. Out of habit, thank goodness, once she entered her car she pushed the door lock. While she was situating, The girl of the couple from inside the store began to knock on her window, while the man tried for the door handle. She immediately began screaming at them to get away form her car. They backed off, repeating that they just wanted a ride as they began to walk away somewhat hurried. I have no doubt in my mind about what was about to happen, and would have happened if her door hadn't been locked. When I pressed her, she told me that it never even crossed her mind to call the police.

What I really went to task with her over, other than not calling the police, was that she has taken her ccw class and has never scheduled with local LE to actually get her permit. She always just replies," When am I ever going to carry it anyway?". No need to say, I believe she will be scheduling very soon.

This situation proved to be easily diverted by locking her door immediately after entry and with her vocal display toward the potential perps. Had they been five steps closer, it could have been a very different situation. Thank God my mom has these little quarks about locking doors.

Hopefully this can serve as a lesson on maintaining situation awareness and a need for some type of defensive method, be it pepper spray, stun gun, knife, or fire arm.
 
It was a good outcome.

Whether or not she should go get her permit and start carrying depends on her mindset. My wife recently became oriented to handguns, and has a positive outlook on the use of them in lawful self-defense, even in cases in which an assailant dies. But, she herself is nowhere near ready to carry. In such a scenario, the gun would likely bounce off every interior surface of the car as she struggled to get it from her purse or wherever and capture it back into her hands. And that's only if she didn't "freeze up" before going for it.
 
Remember, if possible ALL WAYS CARRY !

You are not paranoid if you do because there are actually people out there that either are trying to get you or would if they could!
 
Glad she's ok! Sounds like she got real lucky they just didn't force their way in and rush her when she was getting in her car. Might want to have her at very least get pepper spray or the like if she's not wanting to carry a gun. Plus laying on the horn and drawing as much attention as possible is also a good idea in a situation like that. I'm sure you've probably had the conversation with her already.
 
In such a scenario, the gun would likely bounce off every interior surface of the car as she struggled to get it from her purse or wherever and capture it back into her hands.

I agree. I don't see how having a gun would have changed this outcome at all. As I understand your story, the two attackers were on different sides of the car. The woman was knocking on the window to draw attention while the man tried to open the opposite door. It also sounds like they had the element of surprise. Had the doors been unlocked the man would have been in the car and on top of your mother before she had the chance to turn and draw. Also while she was distracted fighting the man, the woman could have opened driver's door and engaged in the fight. Two against one, with the element of surprise, engaging from feet away, from opposite directions. That is not a winning situation gun or not.

To me this is a lesson in the need for situation awareness, not concealed carry. I'm glad your mother is OK
 
JRWhit
Ever wanted to slap yo mamma?

Glad she's ok. She's gotta change mindset first. Carrying for folks who aren't going to use it or are not ready to use it is worst than having no gun at all. Some folks are better for with pepper spray until they are ready.
 
In such a scenario, the gun would likely bounce off every interior surface of the car as she struggled to get it from her purse or wherever and capture it back into her hands.

Purse carry is probably one of the worst things in terms of carrying. Some women are better off having a little P32, LCP, P3AT, NAA in their pocket than a bigger gun in their purse. Purses can get snatched, left behind, lifted from, tangle up the trigger....etc.
 
I agree that she may not be totally ready for carry, but I would chalk that up to her comfort level. She has a 38 LCR she is quit comfortable with and handles pretty well. I talked her into taking a more broadened class that included some instruction on shooting when she took it. I would like to talk her into some more classes at some point. I was mainly hoping this would put her in the mindset to take preperations for defense, be it pepper spray or other.

The way it was explained to me, the girl was in clear view of the drivers window while the male was out of view trying for the handle. Both on the same side.
 
I talked her into taking a more broadened class.....
Not to get into your business too much but this is the problem. It sounds to me like you want your mother to carry but she has little interest in it. You said that she took a CCW class but never bothered to get her permit and doesn't plan to carry even if she gets her permit. Was the CCW class her idea or did you talk her into it? If your mother doesn't want to carry she shouldn't carry.

I see this a lot. I have quite a few co-workers that have complained to me that their wives won't carry. In each case the husband wants the wife to carry to ease his mind but the wife sees no reason to carry a gun. They purchase a gun, submit the paperwork for concealed carry, and go to the range once. Then the gun sits at home or maybe in the wife's glove box.
 
Glad she's ok. She's gotta change mindset first. Carrying for folks who aren't going to use it or are not ready to use it is worst than having no gun at all. Some folks are better for with pepper spray until they are ready.

I agree with this statement in it's entirety. Spot on.
 
Not to get into your business too much but this is the problem. It sounds to me like you want your mother to carry but she has little interest in it. You said that she took a CCW class but never bothered to get her permit and doesn't plan to carry even if she gets her permit. Was the CCW class her idea or did you talk her into it? If your mother doesn't want to carry she shouldn't carry.

I see this a lot. I have quite a few co-workers that have complained to me that their wives won't carry. In each case the husband wants the wife to carry to ease his mind but the wife sees no reason to carry a gun. They purchase a gun, submit the paperwork for concealed carry, and go to the range once. Then the gun sits at home or maybe in the wife's glove box.

I see where you could get that impression. I don't really want to divulge a full background on my mother, but I will assure you that there is not a lack of need for defense aside from a trip to Walmart. The hesitation is more of the type involving cost, and stubbornness. When I say that I talked her into it, I was referring to a class offering training above that of a standard permit class and not to a ccw class altogether. It was her choice just as the gun was. Didn't mean to give off the impression that she is not familiar with guns. It more the mentality of,"Oh that'll never happen.". That I was referring to. As far as ability, she has been shooting with me for years and I'm sure had shot before I was ever a thought.
 
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