Deaf Smith
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John Pride.Can someone give me just one example where a "top competition" shooter did not do "very well" in a gunfight? Just curious.
Deaf
John Pride.Can someone give me just one example where a "top competition" shooter did not do "very well" in a gunfight? Just curious.
Can someone give me just one example where a "top competition" shooter did not do "very well" in a gunfight? Just curious.
i feel that is inadequate in my own terms
very least to stay on top of your game you should train IMO at least 4-5 hours every two weeks an approximately 300+ rounds this is bottom of the bucket
i totally disagree
Every month the American Rifleman lists a bunch of episodes in which people, almost all of which had less training than Al Thompson is providing in his few hours, were able to defend themselves.
That, of course begs the guestions of how many "top competition shooters" have in fact been involved in gunfights, and under what circumstances.Posted by Ankeny: Can someone give me just one example where a "top competition" shooter did not do "very well" in a gunfight? Just curious.
The only ones I know who have been involved in gunfights did rather well. I'm thinking Ross Seyfried and Bruce Nelson. I hadn't heard about John Pride having done poorly in a gunfightCan someone give me just one example where a "top competition" shooter did not do "very well" in a gunfight? Just curious.
Neither had I. Maybe he did poorly because of his Bronze Star?I hadn't heard about John Pride having done poorly in a gunfight
And a lot of them elderly too. Of course intensive training is best but in the real world very few people are able to regularly attend weekend classes and shoot a thousand rounds a month. It's just fantasy to suggest that it's required. The police usually don't get near as much training as people suggest civilians get. Armed citizens seem to have a very good track record. I don't hear of many failures. One did get shot(survived) a while back in Burger King. But only because he tried talking to the robber first instead of shooting. He still shot the robber. Having a gun handy is one of the big keys in winning a gunfight. Pulling the trigger in a timely manner another.Every month the American Rifleman lists a bunch of episodes in which people, almost all of which had less training than Al Thompson is providing in his few hours, were able to defend themselves.
Seem? Yeah, you do see the occasional article in The Armed Citizen about someone who was able to grab a shotgun and protect himself or herself, often without firing.Posted by hatt: ...very few people are able to regularly attend weekend classes and shoot a thousand rounds a month. It's just fantasy to suggest that it's required..... Armed citizens seem to have a very good track record.
Well, they don't list those, do they?I don't hear of many failures.
Sure they do. The Brady Campaign has likely compiled every case they could muster where civilians didn't fare well when they had a gun. They sure have a list of anyone with a concealed carry permit that's ever been charged with something.Well, they don't list those, do they?
For less than the cost of a new handgun, you can attend a 2 day class and learn the basics of correct usage which would make anyone better able to respond to a threat properly.What's practical is the question. Most folks don't have the time and money to drop $5K a year on weapons training.
Actually, no.Posted by hatt: Sure they do [report failures]. The Brady Campaign has likely compiled every case they could muster where civilians didn't fare well when they had a gun. They sure have a list of anyone with a concealed carry permit that's ever been charged with something.
Not much on-line. I'll just ask him. Will be nice to renew old acquaintances.Just research his LAPD shootings.
Back in the old days, Clayton Cramer's blog used to list confrontations in which good guy armed citizens came off second best in fights with armed criminals. He doesn't do that any more however. I don't know if the blog archives are still available or not.
As to John Pride, I believe he mentioned in one of his books that early in his career he was involved in a shooting, in which he felt he was lucky to have hit the suspect once and make him give up. This incident is what set him on his course to achieving excellence. It came BEFORE he became the champion we know, not after.