Farewell THR, I'm off to boot camp

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First, let me thank you for your sacrifice of serving the greatest nation in the world.

This is what it means to me:

It is the soldier, not the reporter,
Who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the soldier, not the poet,
Who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.
It is the soldier,
Who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who allows the protestor to burn the flag.

Father Denis Edward O'Brien USMC


Secondly, Take care of yourself, and know that our prayers will be with you.

God Bless you man, you do something too few people will ever thank you for...
 
just remember one thing, once you earn the Title, NO ONE can take that away from you. Once a Marine Always a Marine....
Semper Fi
 
Here is what the American Soldier means to me:



Address by General of the Army Douglas MacArthur to the Corps of Cadets accepting the Thayer Award.




General Westmoreland, General Grove, distinguished guests, and gentlemen of the Corps!


As I was leaving the hotel this morning, a doorman asked me, 'Where are you bound for, General?' and when I replied, 'West Point,' he remarked, 'Beautiful place, have you ever been there before?'
No human being could fail to be deeply moved by such a tribute as this [Thayer Award]. Coming from a profession I have served so long, and a people I have loved so well, it fills me with an emotion I cannot express.


But this award is not intended primarily to honor a personality, but to symbolize a great moral code - the code of conduct and chivalry of those who guard this beloved land of culture and ancient descent. That is the meaning of this medallion. For all eyes and for all time, it is an expression of the ethics of the American soldier. That I should be integrated in this way with so noble an ideal arouses a sense of pride and yet of humility which will be with me always.


Duty - Honor - Country. Those three hallowed words reverently dictate what you ought to be, what you can be, what you will be. They are your rallying points: to build courage when courage seems to fail; to regain faith when there seems to be little cause for faith; to create hope when hope becomes forlorn. Unhappily, I possess neither that eloquence of diction, that poetry of imagination, nor that brilliance of metaphor to tell you all that they mean. The unbelievers will say they are but words, but a slogan, but a flamboyant phrase. Every pedant, every demagogue, every cynic, every hypocrite, every troublemaker, and I am sorry to say, some others of an entirely different character, will try to downgrade them even to the extent of mockery and ridicule. But these are some of the things they do.



They build your basic character, they mold you for your future roles as the custodians of the nation's defense, they make you strong enough to know when you are weak, and brave enough to face yourself when you are afraid. They teach you to be proud and unbending in honest failure, but humble and gentle in success; not to substitute words for actions, nor to seek the path of comfort, but to challenge; to learn to stand up in the storm but to have compassion on those who fall; to master yourself before you seek to master others; to have a heart that is clean, a goal that is high; to learn to laugh yet never forget how to weep; to reach into the future yet never neglect the past; to be serious yet never to take yourself too seriously; to be modest so that you will remember the simplicity of true greatness, the open mind of true wisdom, the meekness of true strength. They give you a temper of the will, a quality of the imagination, a vigor of the emotions, a freshness of the deep springs of life, a temperamental predominance of courage over timidity, an appetite for adventure over love of ease. They create in your heart the sense of wonder, the unfailing hope of what next, and the joy and inspiration of life. They teach you in this way to be an officer and a gentleman.


And what sort of soldiers are those you are to lead? Are they reliable, are they brave, are they capable of victory? Their story is known to all of you; it is the story of the American man-at-arms. My estimate of him was formed on the battlefield many, many years ago, and has never changed. I regarded him then as I regard him now - as one of the world's noblest figures, not only as one of the finest military characters but also as one of the most stainless. His name and fame are the birthright of every American citizen. In his youth and strength, his love and loyalty he gave - all that mortality can give. He needs no eulogy from me or from any other man. He has written his own history and written in red on his enemy's breast. But when I think of his patience under adversity, of his courage under fire, and of his modesty in victory, I am filled with an emotion of admiration I cannot put into words. He belongs to history as furnishing one of the greatest examples of successful patriotism; he belongs to posterity as the instructor of future generations in the principles of liberty and freedom; he belongs to the present, to us, by his virtues and by his achievements. In 20 campaigns, on a hundred battlefields, around a thousand campfires, I have witnessed that enduring fortitude, that patriotic self-abnegation, and that invincible determination which have carved his statue in the hearts of his people. From one end of the world to the other he has drained deep the chalice of courage.


As I listened to those songs of the glee club, in memory's eye I could see those staggering columns of the First World War, bending under soggy packs, on many a weary march from dripping dusk to drizzling dawn, slogging ankle-deep through the mire of shell-shocked roads, to form grimly for the attack, blue-lipped, covered with sludge and mud, chilled by the wind and rain; driving home to their objective, and, for many, to the judgment seat of God. I do not know the dignity of their birth but I do know the glory of their death. They died unquestioning, uncomplaining, with faith in their hearts, and on their lips the hope that we would go on to victory.



And 20 years after, on the other side of the globe, again the filth of murky foxholes, the stench of ghostly trenches, the slime of dripping dugouts; those boiling suns of relentless heat, those torrential rains of devastating storms; the loneliness and utter desolation of jungle trails, the bitterness of long separation from those they loved and cherished, the deadly pestilence of tropical disease, the horror of stricken areas of war; their resolute and determined defense, their swift and sure attack, their indomitable purpose, their complete and decisive victory - always victory. Always through the bloody haze of their last reverberating shot, the vision of gaunt, ghastly men reverently following your password of Duty - Honor - Country.


The code which those words perpetuate embraces the highest moral laws and will stand the test of any ethics or philosophies ever promulgated for the uplift of mankind. Its requirements are for the things that are right, and its restraints are from the things that are wrong. The soldier, above all other men, is required to practice the greatest act of religious training - sacrifice. In battle and in the face of danger and death, he discloses those divine attributes which his Maker gave when he created man in his own image. No physical courage and no brute instinct can take the place of the Divine help which alone can sustain him. However horrible the incidents of war may be, the soldier who is called upon to offer and to give his life for his country, is the noblest development of mankind.


You now face a new world - a world of change. The thrust into outer space of the satellite, spheres and missiles marked the beginning of another epoch in the long story of mankind - the chapter of the space age. In the five or more billions of years the scientists tell us it has taken to form the earth, in the three or more billion years of development of the human race, there has never been a greater, a more abrupt or staggering evolution. We deal now not with things of this world along, but with the illimitable distances and as yet unfathomed mysteries of the universe.


We are reaching out for a new and boundless frontier. We speak in strange terms: of harnessing the cosmic energy; of making winds and tides work for us; of creating unheard synthetic materials to supplement or even replace our old standard basics; of purifying sea water for our drink; of mining ocean floors for new fields of wealth and food; of disease preventatives to expand life into the hundred of years; of controlling the weather for a more equitable distribution of heat and cold, of rain and shine; of space ships to the moon; of the primary target in war, no longer limited to the armed forces of the enemy, but instead to include his civil populations; of ultimate conflict between a united human race and the sinister forces of some other planetary galaxy; of such dreams and fantasies as to make life the most exciting of all time.


And through all this welter of change and development, your mission remains fixed, determined, inviolable - it is to win our wars. Everything else in your professional career is but corollary to this vital dedication. All other public purposes, all other public projects, all other public needs, great or small, will find others for their accomplishment; but you are the ones who are trained to fight; yours is the profession of arms - the will to win, the sure knowledge that in war there is no substitute for victory; that if you lose, the nation will be destroyed; that the very obsession of your public service must be Duty - Honor - Country. Others will debate the controversial issues, national and international, which divide men's minds; but serene, calm, aloof, you stand as the nations war-guardian, as its lifeguard from the raging tides of international conflict, as its gladiator in the arena of battle. For a century and a half you have defended, guarded, and protected its hallowed traditions of liberty and freedom, of right and justice. Let civilian voices argue the merits or demerits of our processes of government; whether our strength is being sapped by deficit financing, indulged in too long, by federal paternalism grown too mighty, by power groups grown too arrogant, by politics grown too corrupt, by crime grown too rampant, by morals grown too low, by taxes grown too high, by extremists grown too violent; whether our personal liberties are as thorough and complete as they should be. These great national problems are not for your professional participation or military solution. Your guidepost stands out like a ten-fold beacon in the night - Duty - Honor - Country.


You are the leaven which binds together the entire fabric of our national system of defense. From your ranks come the great captains who hold the nation's destiny in their hands the moment the war tocsin sounds. The Long Gray Line has never failed us. Were you to do so, a million ghosts in olive drab, in brown khaki, in blue and gray, would rise from their white crosses thundering those magic words - Duty - Honor - Country.


This does not mean that you are war mongers. On the contrary, the soldier, above all other people, prays for peace, for he must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war. But always in our ears ring the ominous words of Plato that wisest of all philosophers, 'Only the dead have seen the end of war.'

The shadows are lengthening for me. The twilight is here. My days of old have vanished tone and tint; they have gone glimmering through the dreams of things that were. Their memory is one of wondrous beauty, watered by tears, and coaxed and caressed by the smiles of yesterday. I listen vainly for the witching melody of faint bugles blowing reveille of far drums beating the long roll. In my dreams I hear again the crash of guns, the rattle of musketry, the strange, mournful mutter of the battlefield.
But in the evening of my memory, always I come back to West Point. Always there echoes and re-echoes Duty - Honor - Country.
Today marks my final roll call with you, but I want you to know that when I cross the river my last conscious thoughts will be of The Corps, and The Corps, and The Corps.

I bid you farewell.

- General of the Army Douglas MacArthur
 
Hoo-rah, John!

It's just a shame I never got to put bullets into a backstop along with you.

If you get a chance, please send back the TM's I lent you - if you can't, don't worry about 'em, you've got a lot more important things to take care of.

In all honesty, I took a Bible and Starship Troopers to Army Basic Training in 1988, and I credit both of those books with keeping me sane, focused and on track - the DI might not let you have Starship Troopers, but at least he'll let you keep that Bible.

Best Wishes and God Bless,

Phil
 
John,
I congratulate you on your decision to join the Marine Corps. I'm new around here, and we've never exchanged messages, but let me wish you all the best anyway. You'll never forget the experience you're about to embark on. I can still picture my Drill Instructors faces, I don't even have to close my eyes, they're just there. I was at Parris Island in the summer of 1980, H Co, 3rd Bn, Plt 3034. We graduated on 15 August, so your departure date is very close to my personal birthday as a Marine. You are about to become a member of a brotherhood that will transcend all other things. You will always remember the first time you are called Marine, trust me on that. Believe in your Drill Instructors to train you well, and carry out their orders as fast as you can. I'll share with you something that helped get me through, and for me that was the fact that millions of Marines who had gone before me had made it through boot camp and for many, much worse after that. I believed if they could, I could too. An earlier post said they will be looking to weed out the quitters. That is very true, and it always has been. My Platoon started with 84 recruits and there were 51 of us at graduation, not counting recycles. You have to want it bad enough to never quit, no matter what. Good luck, God speed, and God bless you.
R.G. Isaacs
 
2nd Batt,Plt 2058, '82
Good choice young man!
you've gotten some good advice here,blend in,speak only when spoken to,loudly,lol...Don't quit,
Remember this when you are scratching up Mt. Mother F-er.
,and tell your wife NOT to put perfume on your letters,lol,or intimate details,you sometimes have to read letters to the platoon...
 
Alright Balog, as a former Marine Sergeant 89-94, I'm going to give you a few pieces of advice for boot camp. A few of these probably have already been coverred, but they bear repeating.

1) During 1st phase and especially during receiving and "hell week" (1st week you're picked up by your platoon), you want to "fade into the woodwork" with the other recruits. You don't want to be last in everything, but you don't want to lead the field yet either. Both of those positions will single you out for some "special" unwanted attention by your DIs. Stay in the middle of the pack until you get a feel for the routine, and then about the last week of 1st phase, just before the rifle range, turn on the jets and push yourself up above the rest.

2) Do NOT go to boot camp with a high and tight haircut or wearing anything with the Marine Corps on it. This will also single you out for special attention.

3) Mail is your lifeline. It's what keeps you going there. Get your address to as many people as you can. Heck, PM me and I'll give you my address. Send me yours when you find out what it is, and I'll see that you get a steady supply of encouragement.

4) When giving out your address, make sure you tell people NOT TO SEND YOU THINGS. Letters only. Anything else can earn you more special attention. God help you if somebody sends you food or pornography.

5) Go to boot camp with as little as possible with you. Simple clothes only (they're not going to fit when you're done) and no more than $20 in your pocket. You have to turn in everything when they process you, so there's no point in bringing it along. If you need it in boot camp, the Corps will see that you have it.

These are the same pieces of advice that my father and grandfather gave me as former Marines when I went off to boot camp, and all of it served me well enough to make E5 in 5 years.

Like I said, PM me and I'll give you my address. I'd be happy to drop you some encouragement and other tips along the way.
 
As sad as I know she'll be just from my being gone, I worry about her stressing over which bill to pay.
John,
Don't hesitate to take advantage of being near MCAS Yuma; there are marines and Marine families that will do all manner of things to support your wife while you're gone. That's just part of the deal.
Give 'em Hell.

TC
TFL Survivor
 
Semper Fi,

You are going to hate it, but it will be remembered for the rest of your life.
And you will remember it with fondness.

I went through MCRD San Deigo in August-October 1946. Most of it is still remembered after 58 years.

Good luck
SlowStar
USMC 46/53
Frozen Chosen '50
 
AAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


MCRD P.I. platoon 100 1969

I agree with the above sentiments. For the next 13 weeks you'll think "What the F___ did I do?" almost constantly. In about 20 years you'll be writing these same words on THR.

Do well on the aptitude tests. The Corps really looks for guys with "smarts". Also be sure to qualify Expert. All else sucks. (GySgt Ermey said the same thing last night on "Mail Call") I was one of only 4 Experts in my platoon. Life greatly improved for me after that! ( I was also the "admin body" so I couldn't be invisible)

Once you get out of MOS school don't be too paranoid about volunteering for stuff. I don't mean the "who here has a drivers licence..." type of stuff. You can tell when they want people with some degree of intelligence to vol. I did on two different occasions. I made out VERY well.


Semper Fi!
Former Sgt Obiwan1
(you're NEVER an ex Marine, only a former Marine. Also remember that MARINE is Always Capitalized!):D
 
Thanks for stepping up. i have been in the Army and Guard for twenty years. two wars and 17 countrys. I wish i could escape my desk at camp parks and do it all over. DONT STAND OUT! But be outstanding.
 
Blasted lack of computer access. I reply as often as I can get online, but I'm sorry it takes so long sometimes. Lotsa good stuff, so let's get it going. I'm kinda short on time so I'm just hitting the highlights.


Kor: great to hear from you! Every day as I go to bed I see those TM's, and they invariably remind me of kindness and generosity. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten our bargain. They'll be on their way before I am. :)

MarineTech: would you by chance be the MarineTech who posts on Battle Rifles? If so, I owe you an apology. You may not remember, but I've said some rather foolish things to you in the past. Terribly sorry, and no hard feelings I hope.
Anyway, that sounds like wonderful advice. I'll be sending that PM.

Leatherneck: Yuma is about three hours from where we live, but I'll definitely have to look into the possibility.
 
My mom always said never do anything expecting or wanting thanks. You should do it because its the thing to do and its what is right. You should not do it expecting praise. So dont go aorund saying what you did or how great you are. Let the world figure out on their own who you are. Be humble.
 
John ... I have said already I think - here or elsewhere .... I wish you lots of luck (and endurance! :D ) ..... you have been a notable member and certainly very much part of the ''family'' ... may you remain so and come on back at soonest convenience.

Hang in there ..... it may be harsh but - you'll be one tough cookie at the end!:p

My best wishes to you ...... :)
 
P95Carry wrote:
you have been a notable member and certainly very much part of the ''family'

Wow, that really means a lot to me. I've often wondered if my meager contributions have garnered any notice amongst the people I really respect on this site. Looks like they have in one case. :) Thanks my friend. I'm honored to know you.
 
Thank you for stepping up. :cool:

Take care of yourself, now, okay?


(It looks like I won't be getting my little chuckles from seeing "Location: Directly below date registered." for a few months, durn it! :uhoh: )
 
Balog-

You've chosen your service wisely! As some of the other posters have already stated , it's not going to be easy but don't quit. It's mind over matter...If you don't mind, it don't matter! Listen to your Drill Instructors. The life lessons I learned from my Drill Instructors stay with me to this day. When you finally earn the right to wear the eagle, globe and anchor it will all have been worth it. Good luck and Semper Fi!


Will

MCRD San Diego
2nd Bn, E Co, Plt 2205
1989
 
Update I've been delayed yet again. Only one day this time, thank God. I'm heading out Tuesday morning, not Monday. Now, on to the replies.

Ala Dan! I am so glad to hear from you. Your example has shown me a few things about being a gentleman. I'm proud to be able to call you a friend. Thank you.

Tamara: you know, I always wondered if anybody else found that as amusing as I do. ;)

Williegee: it never ceases to amaze me how well represented the Corps is here on THR. Thanks for the encouragement.
 
Update:

I'm at the USO in San Diego airport, waiting for the DI's to come get me. Processing went well, and there were no problems with the flight.

At chess, I'm running 2 wins, 1 loss, 1 stalemate. Hurry up durn it.
 
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