Felt Recoil

[genie]

i have no real point here, just some observations.

about 2 months ago i recently took the plunge and bought a real nice beretta 391. it's a 2004 model with the optima bored barrel. i also recently inherited a nef pardner single shot shotgun. both are 12 gauge.

heh heh, the difference of felt recoil from the same light 2.75" and 2.75 dram target loads was amazing! yes yes this genie is a master of stating the obvious

but that little nef...with the solid action, very light weight, and hard plastic buttstock end, even those light target shells had a sharp and substantial kick. towards the end of a round of trap, i had to really concentrate to not flinch. and i was wearing a coat with multiple layers of shirts underneath.

on the end of the spectrum, i knew the 391 with the gas action, general bored barrel, and thick soft buttstock pad would feel much softer. but i was just as surprised how light the recoil felt. after shooting the nef, the 391 felt like i was shooting .22's!

apples to oranges with a huge price difference between the 2 guns. i know both have there place in the world and i am very happy to own both! that nef is kinda cute and real compact.

-genie, (off to grant some wishes)

 

[Dave McCracken]

Thanks for stating the obvious.....

Seriously, though, you've made a fine comparison that's apples to apples. One of these is the hardest kicking 12 gauge extant, due to it's light weight, crooked stock, plate,etc.

The 391 has its gas action, 8 lb weight, fine pad and better designed stock. It's one of the lightest kickers around.

Taming that NEF takes load selection, a pad, good form and a fairtomiddling high pain threshold. These work well when carried more than shot.

5 ridges away from the truck, the NEF will be far preferable to the big 391 if one has to tote it back.

Ya pay your money and ya take your chance....

 

[CaCrusin]

Real vs. Perceived Recoil

Being in the recoil business, we've made a study of the recoil phenomena and have discovered that there are two different types of recoil—Actual or net peak recoil, which is measurable and Perceived or felt recoil which is subjective or not measurable. The laws of physics describe the net peak recoil while felt recoil is in the arm and shoulder of the shooter. We have found that many products reduce felt recoil because it is fairly easy. Add a soft pad, make the gun heavier, or reduce the load all effectively reduce felt recoil.

Our products reduce net peak recoil by at least 54.8% according to Browning Arms Co Laboratories. The felt recoil reduction measurements are up to you.

CaCrusin

 

[sm]

There is a reason I suggest to folks the H&R / NEF Youth 20 ga Single shots.
These have fixed mod chokes, a nice recoil pad and of legal length. Great for "having handy" be it truck, teaching a new shooter with light loads or having fun and re-living old memories.

Whacking the bbl on a 12 bore or bigger in a single shot ...to many headaches..

Recoil :
-Rule of 96 - weight of gun to payload.
-Gun fit to shooter
-Hearing protection.

These lessen percieved felt recoil.

Gas Guns - slows the peak reaction of recoil. It is still there [law of Conservation - energy is not created or lost] just spread out.

 

[Larry Ashcraft]

When my son turned 11, I bought him an H&R single shot 20 ga. Thought I was doing him a favor, since my guns are all 12 ga. He tried out my Mohawk 48 when he was 12 and wouldn't shoot the single any more.

I had to go buy a Citori for me.

 

[sm]

What Larry means is - I come to visit " Honey I can't have Steve shoot that old single shot - I have to buy another shotgun" .

Sandy will then find posts showing where I still like to shoot single shots...oh well - we tried.