First failure

My grips are ok and the laser works! (Whew).
The magazine binds when it gets in deep enough to contact the mag release so I think it’s scrap (unless I get really bored one day).
 
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That type of failure is due to the ramp on the barrel and no support underneath the case. Do you have any bulging on other fired cases to indicate the same thing, but haven't blown out?
I've seen this when someone does work on the feed ramp to help get reliable cycling. But also seen it on numerous Glocks, and a few others that bulge out often.
No bulging on other cases. So far as I know the barrel is unmodified image.jpg
 
In your original picture it looks like a brass-melting jet of gas cut through the rim:

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At ranges inside the load books I don't think your feed ramp/chamber shape contributed to the failure, but does help direct the gas. A lot of that energy went into your magazine and why the spring lost its sprung. Anything happen to the mag follower?

When I blew mine my thick, fancy wood slabs cracked lengthwise
 
I had the same thing happen to me a few months back. First time as well. Magazine was a 8 round Mec-Gar with plastic base plate. It was destroyed and likely limited damage. Grips and gun were fine. Like an idiot I kept on shooting.

The next day I noticed a nasty bruise/discoloration on my left eyelid. Dumb luck that I do the wrong thing and keep one eye squinted/closed.
 
In your original picture it looks like a brass-melting jet of gas cut through the rim:

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At ranges inside the load books I don't think your feed ramp/chamber shape contributed to the failure, but does help direct the gas. A lot of that energy went into your magazine and why the spring lost its sprung. Anything happen to the mag follower?

When I blew mine my thick, fancy wood slabs cracked lengthwise
The follower seems ok but the magazine case is now oversized both fore/aft and sideways. I don’t think it’s worth pounding back in shape.

I’ll look for brass splatter.
 
I had the same thing happen to me a few months back. First time as well. Magazine was a 8 round Mec-Gar with plastic base plate. It was destroyed and likely limited damage. Grips and gun were fine. Like an idiot I kept on shooting.

The next day I noticed a nasty bruise/discoloration on my left eyelid. Dumb luck that I do the wrong thing and keep one eye squinted/closed.
Glad you’re ok. I know my face got peppered.
 
I had the same thing happen to me a few months back. First time as well. Magazine was a 8 round Mec-Gar with plastic base plate. It was destroyed and likely limited damage. Grips and gun were fine. Like an idiot I kept on shooting.

The next day I noticed a nasty bruise/discoloration on my left eyelid. Dumb luck that I do the wrong thing and keep one eye squinted/closed.
Yeah, I think the Colt magazine with its welded baseplate helped.
 
This RIA ejected magazines when new


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the magazine latch was either insufficient, or as I now suspect, held the magazine too high. As the slide went forward, the magazine was ejected down! RIA sent me a replacement, this was the old one

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Magazines sat in the pistol very low with the replacement mag release. Lots of clearance between bottom of magazine and bottom of grip. Also, I could feel a very distinct bump, bump, as cartridges fed into the chamber. If I reloaded the bullet several times, the bullet was shoved deeper into the case each loading. The bump, bump had to be the bullet hitting the feed ramp, and finally chambering.

Then one day, this happened. The round fired, the magazine and all its contents ejected, and I had a case with a blown case head in the pistol.

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Gas pressure venting from the blown cartridge case, went down the magazine, compressed the spring, and also stuffed bullets into the cases below!

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The pistol, once I racked the slide, the slide moved freely back and forth. My beautiful replacement coco bolo grips were cracked. The magazine base spring disappeared, and something hit my chin and caused a bruise, something hit the roof over the firing line. Gas release pushed the bullets into unfired rounds in the magazine. Since I had flying springs, bullets, I am glad I always wear glasses! Could have gotten something in the eyeballs. . Something that really helped me was the fact the bottom of the magazine was a piece of plastic and blew out easily. Quick gas release is important to keep pressures from building. If pressure builds, things can get worse. I might not have just cracked my cocobolo grips, but had them blown into my hand.


I field stripped the RIA, wiped everything out, and re-oiled. The slide racked, the hammer fell, the pistol was operable. This pistol is made of 4140 steel, and I am certain had I been firing some WW1 relic, made from un heat treated plain carbon steels, I could have ended up with a bulged or bent slide. But this thing, all I have had to do, is field strip, wipe out the powder residue, reassemble, and it functions. Today's guns are built much better.

At the time, I did not know if it was my reloads or not. I chronographed and targeted the load, and it did not seem excessive. This is the load. A 230 FMJ leaving a five inch barrel at 805 fps.

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After wiping and reassembly, I loaded up a different batch of ammunition and shot that. Everything worked. Because I was uncertain about the ammunition, it took time for me to shoot the kaboom batch up, but when I did, it all went bang. Because I was concerned that pressure might be high, or there was something wrong with the powder, I cut my loads by 3 tenths of a grain and shot an ammunition can of it. This reduced load has to be a mild load. I was very careful about my reloading procedures. This load went 715 fps.

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And what do you know, before the ammunition can of the reduced load was empty, I got a high pressure round. The primer flowed back into the firing pin hole, the case stayed on the bolt face, and the slide was jammed back.

That was when I decided that while bad reloads were still a could be, bullet set back was something to worry about, and fix. Due to case weight variations, it is fruitless to attempt to weigh pistol rounds. Loaded rounds vary more by four grains, so you are never going to catch a double charge, or an excessive charge, by weight. Fed the same bullet several times and the cartridge OAL lessens. I consider that risky. I purchased an EGW higher magazine catch and installed it. I still get bullet set back, but overall, not enough to cause a high pressure incident. I still feel a bump-bump as the round feeds, but it is less pronounced than before. Keeping my fingers crossed, but I don’t shoot this pistol as much as I used to.

I am convinced the cartridge hitting the feed ramp/barrel and seating the bullet deep in the case caused my case head blowout. I am of the opinion that a good hard hit deep seated a bullet and the reduced case volume caused pressures to skyrocket. Since then, I am back to the full load of 230 FMJ with 7.8 grains AA#5 and shooting it in other 1911’s. The kaboom had nothing to do with powder deterioration or age. The powder is 1990’s AA#5 and I am making an effort to shoot up the keg as age wise, it is long in the tooth


This pistol also has a very hard recoil, somewhere in the barrel lugh/slide stop geometry, the barrel lug parts from the slide stop early in the pressure drop, which causes high slide speeds at unlock. This is based on the analysis in this thread:

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My RIA eats shock buffs like candy. I believe this also translates to a high slide return. And, this pistol is very hard to shoot well. I have installed very powerful recoil springs, the strongest mainspring I could find, and at the suggestion of @Steve in Allentown installed a flat bottomed slide stop. The flat bottomed slide stop needed to be fitted, and I could tell the extractor was clocking due to belling in the slide stop notch on the extractor. I don’t think the extractor is clocking now, and the cartridge ejection pattern is more consistent, and the brass does not go as far with a heavy recoil spring, heavy mainspring, and the flat bottomed slide stop.

Rock Island states FMJ only, and they are right, the barrel fouls excessively with lead bullets. I have gone through two bullet grit polishing sessions, and probably a 1000 rounds plus of FMJ, and the tube is brighter. There is still jacket fouling which takes JB Bore past to remove. If I shoot lead, it leads excessively, but less than before.

In comparison, these other bargain basement brands 1911’s have been trouble free and fun to shoot.

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Only takes one oh crap to become a brass sorter. Agilla and Blazer both recycled. It would be easier to list the ones I use, and recycle the rest.... win, ww, rp, federal... done...
I save those for moonclips in the Webley or S&W. .45ACP revolvers are just good things to have. 👍
 
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I know some propellants only use a couple grains and are economical but are they worth the possible problems. Thats Why I have 2 unopened bottles of Titegroup here.
Never cared much for Bullseye for the same reason. Been reloading since 1996 and have used only one pound of Bullseye. I don't see any in my future either.
 
1. This is exactly 10gr of W231. No where near overflowing the case.

2. And it's still not a crimp issue.

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Thank you for showing this , it is why I like to use powders like 700X or American Select for cartridges like 38 super , 40 S&W and 45acp and even 9mm . I like 70% case fill minimum from powders it is something I was taught many years ago and still live by it but the last few years not always possible due to supply.
 
I will have to recrimp the ones I shot.

it is possible I had my head up and locked that day and skipped the crimp s

It looks like I crimped these with a factory crimp die but the crimp might be enough on the ogive to be ineffective
Please let go of this notion, that you have, that setback is prevented by crimping .

Set back is usually controlled by neck tension and neck tension is controlled by the sizing die.

If you aren't sorting your brass by headstamp, it is possible that some of your cases have thinner walls than others. The best way to avoid this is to sort your cases
 
Correct, on auto cases like the .45 ACP neck tension holds the bullet, the taper "crimp" is only to remove any belling.

The rounds pictured are already over crimped. The sizer needs to size down the cases enough to have good neck tension,
while the expander helps the bullet get seated. It should not expand cases enough that you lose good neck tension. If you
have poor neck tension, either the sizer or the expander is too large. Easy to test, skip the expander and check neck tension.
If it's OK, then size some and use the expander. Poor neck tension? The expander is too big. Over crimping is not the answer.
A tighter sizer, or an expander that's smaller in diameter, or thicker brass is the answer. My sizer is tight enough even for the
thinner RP .45 ACP brass, but some sizers are not.
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Never cared much for Bullseye for the same reason. Been reloading since 1996 and have used only one pound of Bullseye. I don't see any in my future either.
Kind of interesting thing to note: 0.5CC dipper of Bullseye is 4.8gr (give r take a tenth) but the same 0.5CC dipper gives 5.4gr of W231 (plus or minus a tenth again). So Bullseye is a little fluffier than W231 and the standard load of Bullseye in a 230gr FMJ .45ACP is 5.0gr while the standard load of W231 is 5.2gr.

Not trying to sell anybody Bullseye or say anything negative about W231, just pointing out Bullseye isn’t as dense as maybe some folks think.
 
View attachment 1208263Ok, I had to go back and check, 10gr doesn’t come close to filling the case but is a very noticeable double charge.
Long ago I did a test using AA#5 and a 9mm case. I took 30 empty cases and then loaded ten with the target charge weight I normally use and then five each and loaded those .1gr high and low. From there I took five more and loaded them .2gr high and low. I then took all 30 and scrambled them together on the bench. I could not separate the target from either of the high or low charged cases. I don't think a Powder Cop could discern the difference either.
 
Kind of interesting thing to note: 0.5CC dipper of Bullseye is 4.8gr (give r take a tenth) but the same 0.5CC dipper gives 5.4gr of W231 (plus or minus a tenth again). So Bullseye is a little fluffier than W231 and the standard load of Bullseye in a 230gr FMJ .45ACP is 5.0gr while the standard load of W231 is 5.2gr.

Not trying to sell anybody Bullseye or say anything negative about W231, just pointing out Bullseye isn’t as dense as maybe some folks think.
Those are my two 45acp powders and like them both. I use the .5 dipper and have noticed same basic volume thing. I shoot under "standard" for each, BTW, and can virtually warranty 4.5gr of bullseye each and every scoop. These light loads aren't as sooty as W231 and for that reason would pick Bullseye if I had to.

And if one doesn't pay attention, because of the light loads, double charges even using a dipper are possible with either powder. I would note however OP's cases are really clean making load checking pretty easy.
 
Long ago I did a test using AA#5 and a 9mm case. I took 30 empty cases and then loaded ten with the target charge weight I normally use and then five each and loaded those .1gr high and low. From there I took five more and loaded them .2gr high and low. I then took all 30 and scrambled them together on the bench. I could not separate the target from either of the high or low charged cases. I don't think a Powder Cop could discern the difference either.
Smart test! At someone's suggestion, I did something similar a while back. I now weigh each charge just because.
 
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