First hunt,things not to do

[outdoorman63]

My step daughter just came in from her first deer hunt, my wife's cousin who is supposed to be a seasoned hunter took her.She said they never saw a thing. She did say she learned a lot, she said the cousin sat there and pretty much chain smoked for 3 hours, she said he had coughing fits about every 10 minutes and went off to urinate twice. She said don't do what he did. Then as there putting their rifles into cases in the truck his scope fell off. I told her she learned valuable lessons and that she is young and will have other chances.

 

[troy fairweather]

Only thing missing is a random hunter walking around the hunting grounds making all kinds of noise and the cousin looking through there scope to see who it is. Or the always bring TP lesson.

 

[LoonWulf]

My step daughter just came in from her first deer hunt, my wife's cousin who is supposed to be a seasoned hunter took her.She said they never saw a thing. She did say she learned a lot, she said the cousin sat there and pretty much chain smoked for 3 hours, she said he had coughing fits about every 10 minutes and went off to urinate twice. She said don't do what he did. Then as there putting their rifles into cases in the truck his scope fell off. I told her she learned valuable lessons and that she is young and will have other chances.

huge difference between seasoned and successful...... Hopefully she has better luck next time.

 

[Ranger99]

Unfortunately, I've seen more than a few of
that type. They go out just to get away from
mama and the kids and spoil everyone else's time because they're so miserable theirselves. Hopefully the kiddo will get to
go again and have a proper good time on
future hunts

 

[Seedy Character]

Seasoned? As in has sat on a stand for many seasons or harvests his deer every season?

Maybe you should take her. Not seeing a deer happens. Sabotaging the hunt through stupid actions is more common than most would believe.

At least, she is smart enough to realize what happened.

 

[JFrank]

My Daughter and Grandson took hunting upon themselves this year, seems the men folk are lacking skills. Girl power !!!
Just realized I posted these earlier on the hunting thread.
(PS. She took both boys and her 3 year daughter in the mini van hunting then called me to come and get them loaded)

Oh well..proud granddad

 

[outdoorman63]

And the story gets better, they went back out this afternoon. She had a shot at 200 yards which she had been practicing for and he told her not to take the shot and he took it with his 30-30 that the scope fell off of earlier in the day and missed. She told him she saw it hit dirt before it ever got out to the deer and he couldn't understand how he missed. Talk about losing some respect for someone.

 

[troy fairweather]

I'd be stepping in about know, it seems he's one step away from being Dangerous.

 

[Seedy Character]

Wow!

Steal the shot from a young, first time hunter.
Definition of ******

 

[buck460XVR]

Well.....at least he stepped up and took her. You have to al least give him that much credit. Mentoring a first time hunter is not an easy thing. In many scenarios, it means the mentor is basically giving up his hunt, or at least reducing his chances. Having mentored my own kids, grandkids and other first time hunters thru the NWTF mentoring program, I can tell you that many times, first time hunters only gauge the hunt by the amount of success. Don't see anything, yep, it's the mentor's fault, even if the new hunter was moving around and constantly making noise. At my age, having to only excuse myself to empty my bladder twice all day, would be a godsend. He may have been a poor mentor, but he was being a kind relative. At least she got a taste of it. Had he not volunteered, would she been able to go?

 

[Seedy Character]

Seeing game and success are important

When taking a youngster, I prefer to go squirrel, rabbit, dove, quail, duck, goose or other small game.

1. You aren't giving up your hunt
2. They SEE game
3. Movement or noise isn't a major factor
4. They get lots of shots, not 0 or 1

I took my kids, grandkids and neighbors hunting, starting around 6 yo. Most did not deer hunt until 12. Some at 9 or 10, that has the skill, temperament and desire.

 

[Axis II]

My Daughter and Grandson took hunting upon themselves this year, seems the men folk are lacking skills. Girl power !!!View attachment 1037761 View attachment 1037762
Just realized I posted these earlier on the hunting thread.
(PS. She took both boys and her 3 year daughter in the mini van hunting then called me to come and get them loaded)

Oh well..proud granddad

The only thing I wanna know is did they use that pink 4 wheeler to get the deer out?

 

[outdoorman63]

Well.....at least he stepped up and took her. You have to al least give him that much credit. Mentoring a first time hunter is not an easy thing. In many scenarios, it means the mentor is basically giving up his hunt, or at least reducing his chances. Having mentored my own kids, grandkids and other first time hunters thru the NWTF mentoring program, I can tell you that many times, first time hunters only gauge the hunt by the amount of success. Don't see anything, yep, it's the mentor's fault, even if the new hunter was moving around and constantly making noise. At my age, having to only excuse myself to empty my bladder twice all day, would be a godsend. He may have been a poor mentor, but he was being a kind relative. At least she got a taste of it. Had he not volunteered, would she been able to go?

Yes but on public land, his spot is at his moms

 

[outdoorman63]

Seeing game and success are important

When taking a youngster, I prefer to go squirrel, rabbit, dove, quail, duck, goose or other small game.

1. You aren't giving up your hunt
2. They SEE game
3. Movement or noise isn't a major factor
4. They get lots of shots, not 0 or 1

I took my kids, grandkids and neighbors hunting, starting around 6 yo. Most did not deer hunt until 12. Some at 9 or 10, that has the skill, temperament and desire.

The only thing she wants to hunt is deer I tried others.

 

[stillquietvoice]

And the story gets better, they went back out this afternoon. She had a shot at 200 yards which she had been practicing for and he told her not to take the shot and he took it with his 30-30 that the scope fell off of earlier in the day and missed. She told him she saw it hit dirt before it ever got out to the deer and he couldn't understand how he missed. Talk about losing some respect for someone.

Hard to like this post.

Myself, mentoring my younger brother., was hard. It seems that no matter where I placed him he didn't see deer. He finally scored on a basket 6, but had to almost force him to stay in a spot that the 6 traveled he took the shot at 100 yds and I backed him up in case but I never fired because he was drt.

Have to let new hunters make the shot, hit orissa its a learning experience.

 

[armedwalleye]

And the story gets better, they went back out this afternoon. She had a shot at 200 yards which she had been practicing for and he told her not to take the shot and he took it with his 30-30 that the scope fell off of earlier in the day and missed. She told him she saw it hit dirt before it ever got out to the deer and he couldn't understand how he missed. Talk about losing some respect for someone.

We all have the opportunity to set an example. Unfortunately, some folk are the embodiment of the perfect way to not do it.

 

[sixgunner455]

How old is she? Hope she gets a shot this year.

Had to shake my head one day when hunting with my young son: he was fussing with the magazine release on the AR he was carrying, and I told him to stop it. He didn’t, and I almost busted a gut laughing when I heard the magazine clattering on some rocks.

Usually, for me and those I hunt with, the kids get to take the shot first, with the mentor for backup to ensure a clean kill, or not even carrying a gun if the kid is a reliable good shot.

 

[buck460XVR]

The best time to mentor first time young hunters is during special youth hunts that most states have. Seems Missouri has a coupla of them. Generally these seasons are set so that only those youth or first time hunters are the ones allowed to shoot. As most of us know, deer hunting is pretty special to many folks. Even experienced hunters get excited when an opportunity presents itself. I grew up in the day when deer hunting was a main way to put meat on the table. My mentor(my dad) took me out the first day, put me by a tree in the dark and told me to stay there till he came back for me. He did not want a fidgety kid ruining his chance to put meat on the table. I was another tag tho and us kids were good dogs(drivers). If we wanted a shot with adult around, we better be shooting when they did. Fishing was similar.

Nowadays, hunting deer is more a recreational sport. While I do agree that the cousin was not the best mentor, again, at least he stepped up to the plate and took the girl. Seemed there was not another choice. We also did not get to hear the cousin's side of the story as to how things went from his perspective. Without knowing for sure how good a shot his niece was @ 200 yards, maybe he thought the only chance was for him to shoot. In reality, he may have been looking out for the deer. No one was there but the cousin and the girl. Being as this was her first hunt, she does not have a lot to relate to. While I too wish her first time would have been more enjoyable, and more successful, I doubt very highly that the lack of success was all his fault.

 

[Seedy Character]

He says the deer was at 200 yards and she had been practicing 200 yard shots.

The cousin took the shot, with his .30-30 THAT THE SCOPE FELL OFF OF, that morning.
1. 200 yards with open sights is stretching .30-30 to the limits
2. He remounted the scope. Did He check zero?
He missed, so I saying he didn't.

He got excited at seeing a deer and the girl be damned. That shot is his.

 

[outdoorman63]

The best time to mentor first time young hunters is during special youth hunts that most states have. Seems Missouri has a coupla of them. Generally these seasons are set so that only those youth or first time hunters are the ones allowed to shoot. As most of us know, deer hunting is pretty special to many folks. Even experienced hunters get excited when an opportunity presents itself. I grew up in the day when deer hunting was a main way to put meat on the table. My mentor(my dad) took me out the first day, put me by a tree in the dark and told me to stay there till he came back for me. He did not want a fidgety kid ruining his chance to put meat on the table. I was another tag tho and us kids were good dogs(drivers). If we wanted a shot with adult around, we better be shooting when they did. Fishing was similar.

Nowadays, hunting deer is more a recreational sport. While I do agree that the cousin was not the best mentor, again, at least he stepped up to the plate and took the girl. Seemed there was not another choice. We also did not get to hear the cousin's side of the story as to how things went from his perspective. Without knowing for sure how good a shot his niece was @ 200 yards, maybe he thought the only chance was for him to shoot. In reality, he may have been looking out for the deer. No one was there but the cousin and the girl. Being as this was her first hunt, she does not have a lot to relate to. While I too wish her first time would have been more enjoyable, and more successful, I doubt very highly that the lack of success was all his fault.

She is 21 and has been shooting for about 5 years, our range is 600 yards and she has no problem with the silhouette at that range. Her rifle was setup for a 200 zero since that is the longest shot on that property. She had other offers to hunt but took that one on proximity to home. He knows her shooting ability,it was his idea. He has seen her shoot at the range. It was just a bad time.