sarduy
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Last Event: 03/14/11 S CS by Criminal Justice; YEAS 3 NAYS 2 on Monday, March 14, 2011 2:37 PM
now, what's the next step?
now, what's the next step?
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AWorthyOpponent
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I'm Wondering the same thing...
I did get this sent from NRA-ILA
http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6415
But, that's about HB 517 (http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0517). effectively the same thing...
sarduy
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i really hope this get through.
pikid89
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honestly, im not so sure that this version of the bill should be approved...im all for open carry but the amendments that have been attatched are rediculous first they hacked out the campus carry (im a student at UF so that really burns me)
then they added
a. Retention Training Required
b. Level II retention holster required ($$$/not available for many guns)
c. CCW permit to be displayed in a clear sleeve on or near the holster
WTH thats insane
...the general consensus is CCW badges are at best a joke, and at worst borderline dangerous...how is this any different
then they added
a. Retention Training Required
b. Level II retention holster required ($$$/not available for many guns)
c. CCW permit to be displayed in a clear sleeve on or near the holster
WTH thats insane
...the general consensus is CCW badges are at best a joke, and at worst borderline dangerous...how is this any different
EnderWiggin
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This site: http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Bills/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=44867
shows the amendments to the bill and it doesn't look like the stupid amendment of having to display your CWL was removed. You can see edit: SD 245176, Criminal Justice, Evers Date Filed: 03/09/11 where they added the stupid amendments.
My question is: there is a similar bill in the house (HB517) that is NOT neutered... so does this mean that if that passes it will override SB234?
shows the amendments to the bill and it doesn't look like the stupid amendment of having to display your CWL was removed. You can see edit: SD 245176, Criminal Justice, Evers Date Filed: 03/09/11 where they added the stupid amendments.
My question is: there is a similar bill in the house (HB517) that is NOT neutered... so does this mean that if that passes it will override SB234?
Read the committee substitute here:
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Secti...ocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=0234&Session=2011
http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Secti...ocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=0234&Session=2011
EnderWiggin
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Oh alright. Thanks. My other question still stands though... if HB517 passes with it's college carry... will it override the SB234 without the college carry?
EnderWiggin
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-.- Oh well... deep down inside I knew this bill would not pass with college carry in it. As long as they dont nerf anything else.
sarduy
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is there a video of this? so i can watch it? i turn "the florida channel" at 8am today and i didn't see anything untill like 10am
No. Both houses have to vote on a bill to send it to the governor. Bills cannot override other bills (unless the legislature votes to do so). Once HB517 passes in the house, it gets sent to the Senate. Then the Senate votes on the House Bill. If the Senate passes it, it goes to the governor.
This process is the same if the Senate passes a bill first and sends it to the House.
Yesterday, the Senate Bill advanced and is now before the Judiciary Committee.
MagnumDweeb
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I just sent off for my CCW permit renewal last week. I'm anxious. I've got $500 put aside for holsters. I'm not going to open carry but I like having the option. If it passes I am going to invest in a shoulder carry rig to wear under button up shirts, and should it print, it won't be a big deal if this gets passed.
sarduy
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i want it to pass!
Nero_Atrum
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So did it pass?
AWorthyOpponent
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Given that all of this goes through like we are hoping, how many other steps are there to this? It seems that they are postponing the inevitable as much as possible.
House Floor.
Two more committees in the Senate, then to the Senate Floor.
If the versions are IDENTICAL once they pass both house and Senate the act goes to the governor.
If the versions are different they go to a conference committee. Once the conference creates a common version both floors vote again to either send it to the Governor or back to committee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ
Two more committees in the Senate, then to the Senate Floor.
If the versions are IDENTICAL once they pass both house and Senate the act goes to the governor.
If the versions are different they go to a conference committee. Once the conference creates a common version both floors vote again to either send it to the Governor or back to committee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ
Big Mike
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It was an interesting committee meeting at the House Judiciary Committee this morning... From Marion Hammer, NRA, I learned that apparently in 1987 when the FL legislature was attempting to pass concealed carry, the law enforcement (LE) at the time objected and preferred that there was "open carry" as they could more easily identify people carrying handguns. Now it's the reverse with many LE and the FL Sheriff's Association objecting to the legislation. Interesting...
bbuddtec
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I already told Paula what I feel.
sarduy
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so... from there, what's the next step? gov sign?
I'm under the impression you would get the same attitude if shall-issue were up again in the legislature. It appears the Sheriff's Association simply doesn't want civilians armed.
SB234 seems delayed a bit. I'm hoping it gets scheduled in the Judiciary next week. Hopefully HB517 will be added to the floor calendar the week of April 4th.
Still a few more steps to get this through. The legislature is a slow beast.
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