Flash Mob, How Do You React?

It's a hypothetical scenario.
No it's not. It's taken directly from a post on Glock Talk in which the poster stated that his wife and daughter witnessed a flash mob robbing a Target store.


Does this look hypothetical to you?

Specifically note the group of girls who walked in the door and realized what was going on. One of them started to leave and then they all just froze in the middle of the store.
 
Never heard of flash rob before this thread.

I have noticed that just about every store I shop at (grocery stores) have completely rearranged their stores within the past few weeks. Not just the usual moving product around so you can't find anything but a major moving around of store fixtures. I noticed that the new layouts seem more defensible and more barriers to products between the cash registers and the front door it.

Interesting to see the corporations react. Now I know why.
 
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It's a hypothetical scenario.

My comment was in response to your "Go and live in a nicer place" post.

This isn't about where a person lives at all. It was about what a person would do if a flash mob hit a store you were at, not where you live at.

Certainly if one's home was in the immediate vicinity of the particular store this took place at, moving might indeed be an option. But if you're going to make that kind of assumption, place that caveat in your posting in order to qualify it.
 
My comment was in response to your "Go and live in a nicer place" post.

This isn't about where a person lives at all. It was about what a person would do if a flash mob hit a store you were at, not where you live at.

Certainly if one's home was in the immediate vicinity of the particular store this took place at, moving might indeed be an option. But if you're going to make that kind of assumption, place that caveat in your posting in order to qualify it.
It's all hypothetical, there is really nothing to worry about.
 
The overall consensus here seems to be as much avoidance as possible and not getting engaged in any way. Very sensible from my perspective. But we are having this discussion in a forum where most participants are fairly well informed on self defense practicalities and legalities. I wonder if there might be a fair number of concealed weapon carriers out there who might think of themselves as anti crime warriors of some sort. In these times when such events are reported in the news almost daily a lot of people are fed up with it. It wasn't a flash mob but I read one story where a prominent lawmaker interfered with a shop lifting for just that reason. If you are there when such an event occurs you might find yourself in the middle of something when one of those "warriors" decides to act.
 
1. Defense of self/family against deadly/injurious force
2, Defense of others under active attack by deadly/injurious force
3. Defense of those facing imminent threat of deadly/injurious force

Key word: Defense
Key action: Withdrawal during all above
Key element to understand: Mobs have no brain
 
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The overall consensus here seems to be as much avoidance as possible and not getting engaged in any way. Very sensible from my perspective. But we are having this discussion in a forum where most participants are fairly well informed on self defense practicalities and legalities. I wonder if there might be a fair number of concealed weapon carriers out there who might think of themselves as anti crime warriors of some sort. In these times when such events are reported in the news almost daily a lot of people are fed up with it. It wasn't a flash mob but I read one story where a prominent lawmaker interfered with a shop lifting for just that reason. If you are there when such an event occurs you might find yourself in the middle of something when one of those "warriors" decides to act.
Yes but right now it is just material store items they are after/ the next phase is when they are emboldened to begin to make their mark I/E beat up citizens who just happen to be in the vicinity that is the next phase.
 
Yes but right now it is just material store items they are after/ the next phase is when they are emboldened to begin to make their mark I/E beat up citizens who just happen to be in the vicinity that is the next phase.

I think that "next phase" you refer to may already be happening once in a while.

But I was referring to getting caught up in something that was made worse by some ill advised warrior who decides to be the one who straightens one of these mobs out.
 
Consider the following. Flashmob thefts take place predominantly in jurisdictions with far left DAs or State’s Attorneys General, elected to those posts by far left electorates who support the decriminalization of theft. These are not good jurisdictions for persons carrying concealed firearms or intervening in crimes that the electorate deem unimportant. As much as it may gall you, best to stay out of the fray rather than end up the only one prosecuted.
 
Those of us who are old enough to remember B/C ((before castro) this is the same way it went down in Cuba. When the stores came under constant looting then the food was put under control of the army Batista gave orders to shoot and it ended badly civilians and che guevara followers were left dead in the streets. castro took over too bad because the bass fishing up near Escambray had some of the biggest bass I have ever seen.
 
In this hypothetical situation.
1. It’s not my property
2. They have insurance.
3. I’m not about to take on a mob alone
4. I’m going to cover my family and beat feet outa Dodge.
5. only repeat only if I’m confronted and/ or some party or parties are either obstructing our exit or negatively interacting with us will I get involved on that scene.
the object here is my loved ones are my prime responsibility trying to interfere with a flash mob could endanger them and I won’t do that!
 
I'm all about finding an exit. However, what if something other than theft happens? Something abhorrent like one or more of them starts beating up an old lady that was in their way?
There's some people out there with exceptionally low character, and I'm not sure I could let something like that pass
 
To the individual who responded, "Move to a nicer place," not gonna call him out, but...

apparently, some aren't paying attention to the news: the "flash mob" robberies have been occurring in a number of high-end department and jewelry stores in the "good parts" of the cities.

And in several of these scenarios, store employees and citizens have been knocked down or outright assaulted.

There is no single answer. It's all probably dependent on how agile and quick one is, as well as one's location relative to the perpetrators (i.e., in the middle of the area in front of the mob's egress points, etc.) and how quickly one recognizes the situation and employs common sense.
 
It would behoove anyone who has not viewed the Michael Bane piece and done some thinking about it to do so.

This is not something for which one's uninformed assumptions would be helpful.
 

If you're in a Walmart or in this case a Sports Authority and a Flash Mob hits the store while you're shopping What is the safest response?

Should you try to leave the store? Should you try to hide in the stock room? Do you move away from the area that's being hit and hope you're not noticed? Do you head for another exit?

How would you react?

Nobody robs the men's washroom. All the exits will be busy for a while, I think I'll go take a leak. :cool:
 
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