Former NRA Pres Sandra Froman on Parker Case

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Why You Should Care About Parker v. District of Columbia
By Sandy Froman
Tuesday, May 1, 2007

There is a case working its way to the Supreme Court that might settle one of the biggest unanswered questions in constitutional law: Does the Second Amendment guarantee an individual right to own a gun? Whether or not you own a gun, this is a case you should care about.

I’m not just saying that because I’m the immediate past president of the National Rifle Association. (Last month I completed my two-year term as president and nine years as an officer of the NRA.) I’m also saying it as an attorney who’s been arguing cases in federal court for more than 30 years, and who understands how a clear precedent on a constitutional question can determine the outcome of a case.

There is a case moving towards the High Court that will likely give us such a precedent on your right to own a gun – a precedent that is either good or bad, depending on your point of view. That case is Parker v. District of Columbia.

I often get asked why there is such a passionate debate on whether the right to own a firearm is a civil right. Everyone agrees that the Constitution speaks about firearms. The Second Amendment speaks of, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms.”

The disagreement is over what those words mean. Most people believe what is called the individual rights view of the Second Amendment, meaning that all law-abiding, peaceable citizens have the individual right to own firearms. The opposing interpretation is called the collective rights view, meaning that the Second Amendment is only a right of state governments to arm their National Guard units.

Polls show that more than 70% of Americans (correctly) believe that they have a civil right under the Constitution to own a gun. But in America we don’t decide constitutional controversies by taking a poll.

Only federal courts—and ultimately the Supreme Court—have the power to interpret the Constitution in a binding way. The Supreme Court has never spoken definitively on the scope or meaning of the Second Amendment. And the Court’s silence has allowed cities and states to enact broad, sweeping laws hostile to gun ownership.

The worst of these laws is the District of Columbia gun ban. If you live in our nation’s capital, you cannot have a handgun or a readily-usable rifle or shotgun in your own home for self-defense. No ifs, ands or buts. It is a near-blanket prohibition on firearms and self-defense.

That brings us to the Parker case. The named plaintiff, Shelly Parker, lives in the high crime area of DC and has been threatened by thugs and drug dealers. She wants to be able to protect herself and she sued the city government over the gun ban. It’s shocking to realize that in one of the most violent cities in America, a woman is denied the tool that might save her life.

But it’s the law in the District, so she took the District to court.

On March 9, in a landmark ruling the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit struck down the DC gun ban as unconstitutional in a 2-1 decision. The DC Circuit Court held that the Second Amendment protects a citizen’s civil right to own firearms, adopting the individual rights view, and invalidated the DC law.

As you would expect, the DC government is appealing the ruling. Earlier this month DC petitioned for what is called an en banc rehearing. That means that all eleven eligible judges on the DC Circuit would hear the case, instead of the usual three-judge panel. As you read this we are waiting to see if the circuit court grants or denies that petition.

Regardless of whether the full DC Circuit Court hears the case en banc, the losing party will certainly appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. And without going into all the legal rules and reasons that help determine whether the Court takes a given case, let me just say the odds are good that the Court will take this one.

This case is monumental. Already the DC Circuit Court opinion—if left untouched—will totally change gun ownership rights in the District of Columbia. And the DC Circuit is one of the most respected and well-credentialed courts in America. Its opinions and rulings have a major impact on courts and lawmakers all over the country.

But as important as the DC Circuit is, it pales in comparison to the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court takes this case, it could have a huge impact all across our land.

There’s so much more to be said regarding this case. I’ll have more to write on this once the DC Circuit decides whether to rehear en banc. In the meantime, this is a case you want to be watching. There’s a lot at stake, not just for gun owners but for all who believe in upholding the Constitution and enforcing our civil rights.

Sandy Froman is the immediate past president of the National Rifle Association of America, only the second woman and the first Jewish American to hold that office in the 136-year history of the NRA.

Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.
 
The next step is that we all wait to hear from the DC Circuit Court whether or not they will hear the case en banc or not.

Wait wait wait........

If they refuse then the Parker Decision that smacked down the DC Ban stands.

If they choose to take it up then it could go either way.

In either case the above article states clearly that no matter what happens with the DC Circuit Court decides to do the loser will likely appeal to SCOTUS for the final word.
 
It's like sitting around waiting to be told, finally admitted in public actually, that many of those who have taken an Oath to "Uphold and Defend" are actually there to "Destroy and Negate"....

If it goes against the B o R, it will finally be the admission to what we all know, and time to feed the hogs.

D.
 
I thought the NRA was trying to sabotage this case.

Sounds like they understand exactly what is at stake.

My guess is that DC knows they are in big trouble and make some kind of minimal change to their law that allows some kind of loaded firearms in a house. Maybe only in a locked safe or something. Maybe you have to have the safe approved and inspected first, with a $100 fee. And they only inspect on alternating Friday the 13ths.
 
If it goes to the SCOTUS and is upheld, then 922(o) is next in line to fall.

One fully automatic FN SCAR-L please, with a side of H&K G36!
 
I thought the NRA was trying to sabotage this case.

They did initially, for a variety of reasons that have been discussed to death. Now that Parker has progressed through the court system past the point where the NRA can affect it through legal channels, they have no choice but to back it.
 
If it goes to the SCOTUS and is upheld, then 922(o) is next in line to fall.

I kind of doubt it. Thats a tax issue and the courts are very lenient toward government in tax cases.

it would however be interesting if the courts decided that there was some militia angle associated with the 2A AND that it was indeed an individual right. It would be very, very hard to deny individuals the right to own militia type weapons.
 
I guess that's what happens when you leave the NRA convention before the Monday board meeting! I thought Sandy was starting her second year. My bad! Something about "time passes quickly when you're having fun."
 
ilbob, it's more than a tax issue. The law as ammended in 1986 banned civilians from owning machine guns made after 1986, so, it's actually very similar to what DC did with handguns--they ended registration after a specific date. Only, in this case, it would be a federal law overturned. So, if the court tries to argue the second does not apply to the states like they have claimed the first does, it will still apply to the feds, if a ruling like that comes out of this.

And besides, the tax itself is clearly made to infringe on the right by making a long, difficult, and expensive process, in order to discourage people from owning the guns.
 
The Tax stamp and Registry are just another Poll Tax as used during the Jim Crow era to deny poor citizens (black and white as well) the right to vote. It would be contradictory to let it stand if the right to keep and bear arms was determined by the USSC to be an individual right.
 
jpk1md said:
If they (DC Court EnBanc) refuse then the Parker Decision that smacked down the DC Ban stands.

leather said:
The District can then appeal?

I do not believe that Parker could push the case to SCOTUS if they win at the DC level...I mean that would be effectively trying to appeal to a higher court after you WON your case.....if the DC Court refuses to hear it En Banc then its done and we win a significant battle....not the war.

If the Anti's were smart they would just let Parker stand and allow guns in DC with heavy regulations that Parker decision allowed....please note that this is a precedent but really only applies to the region served by the DC Courts....

Other Fed Courts in other parts of the Country have set precedents contrary to Parker....SOOOOOO if Fenty/DC/Anti's lose the appeal to DC En Banc and then push it to SCOTUS and LOSE or refuse to hear the case (ie We Win induvidual vs collective) its a decision that overrules ALL of the precedent set in those other federal courts and instead of just losing in DC they lose NATIONALLY....its a big gamble for both sides but as others have said the composition of SCOTUS isn't likely to get better in the near term and is in fact likely to get worse if the Dems win the White House in 2008 since there is at least one SCOTUS seat likely to be up for appointmen
 
ilbob, it's more than a tax issue. The law as ammended in 1986 banned civilians from owning machine guns made after 1986, so, it's actually very similar to what DC did with handguns--they ended registration after a specific date. Only, in this case, it would be a federal law overturned. So, if the court tries to argue the second does not apply to the states like they have claimed the first does, it will still apply to the feds, if a ruling like that comes out of this.

And besides, the tax itself is clearly made to infringe on the right by making a long, difficult, and expensive process, in order to discourage people from owning the guns.

I don't disagree, but the courts have always been very lenient with respect to the government's taxing powers. If the feds were to frame it as a tax issue, it might be a lot more palatable to the courts. However, if the courts were to make it both an individual right and a militia issue, as they seem to have done in a few seperate cases, it would be very difficult to allow a defacto ban on FA weapons.

My guess is they will find some way to allow "reasonable regulation" that will continue the defacto ban.

This is what they have done for every other enumerated right.
 
If the Anti's were smart they would just let Parker stand and allow guns in DC with heavy regulations that Parker decision allowed....

They won't. They CAN'T. They can't because the most Left-leaning socialistic members and contributors won't let them. There will be *ahem* blood in the corridors if they try to shush it. And DC officials won't let it go, because they cannot believe they would lose at the en banc level.

Regardless of whether the full DC Circuit Court hears the case en banc, the losing party will certainly appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court. And without going into all the legal rules and reasons that help determine whether the Court takes a given case, let me just say the odds are good that the Court will take this one.

So if the entire District Court declines to hear the case, it can still advance to the Supreme Court?
 
It seems very likely to be upheld if SCOTUS hears it. 90% and more.

I don't expect the NFA stamps would go away. But we might get new MGs allowed. Okay, so a new M16 would cost $1000 plus $200 from Bushie or RRA. A new M60 would cost $3000 + $200 from Saco. I think I can live with that.

But the important thing isn't cheap machine guns. The important thing is for homeowners in Moron Grove, Kali and DC to be able to look at the politicos and say, "Screw you, buddy, I've got a right to have a gun in my house" and have it be unquestioned.
 
what's another $200 on top of a $1,000 gun.

Fine, I can live with it, even the silly wait and background check. Lose the CLEO signature requirement (I know, I can incorporate or built a trust to get around this), and I'll be even happier ... IF WE CAN REGISTER NEW MACHINE GUNS.
 
what's another $200 on top of a $1,000 gun.
Agreed

IF WE CAN REGISTER NEW MACHINE GUNS.
Ugh, I don't like registration.

Of coarse if we get SCOTUS to rule it's an individual right, then could registration be stopped as an infringement? What about backdoor registrations like we have in MA? The FA-10s that is.
 
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