Forum Appreciation

[Bill_in_TR]

I have been spending more time in this sub forum recently and to me it has been a valuable learning experience. There has been a lot of useful information and opinion here in many threads. It has changed my way of thinking about some things and reinforced my thinking in other areas. I can't say I always agree or that I can always apply some suggestions. But I always pick up on something that makes me think. Thank everybody for their contributions.

 

[FL-NC]

Just a piece of advice- take what is said here with a grain of salt, same as any other internet firearms forum. There are a LOT of virgins lecturing on sex.

 

[Bill_in_TR]

Just a piece of advice- take what is said here with a grain of salt, same as any other internet firearms forum. There are a LOT of virgins lecturing on sex.

I hear you loud and clear. As I said I don't always agree. But even the questionable posts can make you think.

 

[.45Coltguy]

I'm fairly new to this forum, but, it has become my most visited site. Like any firearms related forum, a little weeding and it is awesome.
THR has some talented posters here. I especially enjoy the Handloading threads.

 

[Old Dog]

Just a piece of advice- take what is said here with a grain of salt, same as any other internet firearms forum. There are a LOT of virgins lecturing on sex.

Perfectly stated.

 

[Kleanbore]

Perfectly stated.

Perhaps, but it is a rather meaningless attempt at wit.

Prudent persons who have been involved in incidents involving the threat or use of force do not discuss them publicly.

That does not mean that what is posted by such people as our members Mas Ayoob and Tom Givens should be "taken with a grain of salt".

 

[Old Dog]

Perhaps, but it is a rather meaningless attempt at wit.

I'm gonna disagree here just a little bit... it was in my opinion a perfectly apt metaphor. And also funny. And true.

Just a simply cautionary remark that was not intended to discredit the OP's sentiment nor comments.

Prudent persons who have been involved in incidents involving the threat or use of force do not discuss them publicly

Not typically, but some have. The whole arena of self-defense in our society now is a bit dicey (and has become political in all its ramifications) with the threat of criminal prosecution and civil lawsuits even in cases of legitimate use of force/use of deadly force -- and cases often drag out for years. So, yes, it's generally better to talk about incidents involving others, that have been legally resolved.

Remember an old member of THR, "Quarterbore Gunner?" Find a link to one of those old threads, fascinating.

That does not mean that what is posted by such people as our members Mas Ayoob and Tom Givens should be "taken with a grain of salt".

One strongly suspects that the comment did not apply to such people as those particular members.

 

[Kleanbore]

Not typically, but some have.

The operative word was "prudent".

I have posted a few, but no injuries resulted, the statute of limitations had expired many decades before, and all other involved persons were long deceased.

It was a judgment call.

We have forum rules and a sticky on the subject, and the reasons are fully explained.

The whole arena of self-defense in our society now is a bit dicey (and has become political in all its ramifications)

Not the point. It has never been prudent to air things that may involve criminal charges or civil claims. That pertains to both LEO and cIvilian cases. Itas for years.

it was in my opinion a perfectly apt metaphor. And also funny.

Not in mine. It was not meaningful. It can be taken as off-color, juvenile, silly, or snide,. We are not here for humor.

The idea that the fact that persons who post in the forum should not and do tell of real use of force experiences that may have occurred should mean that people should take posts here "with a grain of salt" is ludicrous and insulting.

 

[Bill_in_TR]

I never would have thought my simple thanks for a worthwhile collection of opinions and experiences would have generated any controversy. Almost sorry I posted it.

 

[Old Dog]

The idea that the fact that persons who post in the forum should not and do tell of real use of force experiences that may have occurred should mean that people should take posts here "with a grain of salt" is ludicrous and insulting.

As I attempt to interpret this word salad, I can state for a fact that any comments about taking any THR posts with a grain of salt are almost never intended as ludicrous and insulting.

If one has been around the internet firearms community a while, one will normally be able to eventually determine which forum members are actually credible, offering forth true, verifiable statements and worthwhile advice. Fact remains, we're all anonymous and absent being able to post our CVs online for the rest of the membership to review, we don't know (unless we know them personally) whether a member is a 14-year-old Call of Duty player posting from Mom's basement or a seasoned veteran of the GWOT or a street cop, or both.

It is (or should be) clearly evident that every now and then -- even in the "serious" sub-forum of S&T -- there are posts that within the truth may being stretched, as it were, events exaggerated, events misinterpreted, erroneous conclusions suggested or reached, not to mention the evident inexperience in either (or both) firearms matters and self-defense issues by members that manifest themselves in many threads. There are guys posturing, posing and "puffing up" in threads on occasion (though not as often as on certain other forums). Oh, and that's not even considering the amount of hyperbole often engaged in...

We are not here for humor.

Guessin' we're not here for the free beer, either.

 

[FL-NC]

I never would have thought my simple thanks for a worthwhile collection of opinions and experiences would have generated any controversy. Almost sorry I posted it.

You got no reason to be sorry because you didn't do anything wrong.

 

[Kleanbore]

I never would have thought my simple thanks for a worthwhile collection of opinions and experiences would have generated any controversy. Almost sorry I posted it.

No poblem at all!

 

[Kleanbore]

You got no reason to be sorry because you didn't do anything wrong.

True,. The comment we have been discussing was a bit flippant, but it was not out of line.

The problem arose when someone attempted to expand the thought and give it more meaning than was obviously intended.

Thanks, FN.

 

[FL-NC]

No, clearly there IS a problem and someone is out of line. I never posted anything against you, nor against Mr. Ayoob (a true professional, who has contributed significantly both as a subject matter expert, and as a sworn officer who has earned 100% of my respect). I don't know or have I ever met anyone by the name of Givens. I also try not to post anything about anyone that I would not say to his or her face, so I sure wouldn't be dancing around and using terms like juvenile and snide. Humor is a necessary part of life- I have used it as an instructor to keep my students engaged. Even in "serious" training. In fact, even in life-or-death situations, it almost always seems to come out. I'm sure there are Veterans and LE types who could talk for hours about this very subject and their experiences. Judging from the feedback, it looks like a few people thought my post was worthwhile or funny, maybe both. I was able to accomplish that without verbally sniping at anyone. Take a chill pill and quit taking yourself so seriously.

 

[TarDevil]

Even among professionals opinions and tactics vary.

But an open mind, hopefully, will digest the offerings and discard the chaff.

We are a collection of opinions. Including this post.