my policy is scorched earth.
Has this scorched earth policy ever actually been implented, or is it merely hypothetical?
my policy is scorched earth.
Here's where that goes off the rails, and way too often:Mistaken car stop after a report of a vehicle fleeing an assault--
Driver-Why am I being stopped?
Cop-You are driving a vehicle fitting the description of....or "get out"
Driver-I won't get out! (Arrest)
Driver-Here's my permit
Cop- Thanks, step out (cuffed for safety & disarmed)
Dispatch- Wrong car
Cop-Thank you for your cooperation, sorry to inconveniece you...here's your gun.
Well planned and thought out with my lawyer.Has this scorched earth policy ever actually been implented, or is it merely hypothetical?
The same thing applies to self-defense with a firearm.Until you actually do it, it's only so many words.
My only experience of Colorado is three hours in the Denver airport about fifteen years ago. I can't say what Colorado cops would or wouldn't do.That said I don't think I'd enjoy a roadside tirade by an anti police officer but I'm fairly certain ( well. first I'm fairly certain it wouldn't happen in Colorado) a well written letter to his training officer Cc'd to the Chief of Police and the editor of the local paper would give enough correction to ensure it was a one-time occurance
You're NOT a "law abiding person". You're somebody who speeds, runs stop signs and makes "furtive movements" when stopped. You yourself gave the police justification for giving you a [deserved] hard time. People who don't break the law don't need "breaks" from the police.So all you hard-core "my rights first" people can continue to not cooperate with police and I'll continue to be a law abiding person with nothing to hide and I would bet you I won't have any problems.
Deanimator said:Information possibly emanating from a police agency was posted in usenet in order to facilitate an attack on me by White supremacists. The trail was too hard to follow, despite some interesting clues, so I decided that the proper solution was simply to shoot anybody who tried to act on the information.
Because they said so, literally DOZENS of times, accompanied by what they believe to be directions and maps to my house?Sir, you realize that this sounds a little out there? You don't have to justify it to me or anyone for that matter, but why do you think someone would be out to get you?
mljdeckard said:So, he asks me if he can search
Stupid is as stupid does. If he was smarter, he probably wouldn't be a petty criminal in the first place.I have more respect for the guys who just say "NO", than the guys who complain for the next ten years after they agree to a search.
I'm not sure that's really true, and I'm not taking a chance with it. You can stop TALKING any time you want to, but anything you say up to that point is admissible, assuming that all of the proper procedures were followed.You know you can terminate a voluntary search at any point if you change your mind.
Actually, my relationship with my LOCAL police is quite cordial. There are other police departments with which I utterly refuse to have ANY voluntary contact, or to even talk to without a lawyer present. Fortunately, I only have the potential for contact with them once a year.I'm saying this with all due respect Deanimator but it sounds like you have a rather adverserial relationship with local law enforcement. I hate to hear about this and I have no way of knowing the circumstances but hopefully over time it can be resolved and the relationship becomes more amicable.
Absolutely NOTHING could be farther from the truth.If the White Supremacist are really bent on harming you then these are the guys who will be called to save your butt.
You have not only an unrealistic appreciation for the legal obligations and physical abilities of the police, you have one which could get you killed.Deanimator...thousands of times a day law enforcement officers respond to calls for help all across this country. They do not give a damn about the messed up legal jargon lawyers toss around. They respond...time after time after time. Most of the case law dealing with the legal responsibilities concerning police protection is null and void in a law enforcement officers mind when they get an emergency call...at least the ones I know. Legal duty...legal liability...thats lawyer bull**** designed to protect the various government agencies which employ the officers. And I'll grant it also protects the officer with limited criminal and civil liability.
And lack the physical ability...that is laughable to me. It is absolutely untrue. There are millions of "tough guys" sitting in prisons who learned that lesson the hard way. There are thousands in their graves. Just because a man puts on a uniform doesn't make him superman and far too many law enforcement officers wind up in a grave every year also but they do not run and hide from trouble. Even when scared you suck it up and do what you swore to do.
Thousands of times a year, the police show up AFTER somebody has been maimed or murdered. Usually it's not their fault. But the victim is still maimed or murdered. Here's a newsflash for you: 911 is a communications system of variable efficacy, NOT a matter transporter. If your life is in danger RIGHT NOW, you'd better be able to defend YOURSELF, RIGHT NOW.
If somebody is trying to kill you RIGHT NOW, it is almost 100% that the police are NOT going to "protect" you. When they get to your location, they're going to draw a chalk outline around your body, or if you're "lucky", call an ambulance if you're unable to do so. They may or may not apprehend the person who injured or killed you.