Full Auto?
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HeavenlySword
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I do, but it will not happen.
we should be allowed to own new full automatic firearms with no tax or to do about it.
the sword is not the problem, it is the man who wields it.
( unless of course you plan to do bad things to the people who own swords, then OBV its in your best interest to disarm them)
the sword is not the problem, it is the man who wields it.
( unless of course you plan to do bad things to the people who own swords, then OBV its in your best interest to disarm them)
nekwah
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I think they should allow .22. But anything bigger, imagine what those freaks that shoot up mallls would do. I dont know why they dont conver an ak or something. I guess we should be glad they cant think of stuff like that(so far). Let us hope it never happens again. I think that with a proper fairly easy to get license, people should be able to obtain recent full auto weapons.
kingpin008
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Why draw the line at .22 - they're just as capable of killing as any other caliber. Seems a bit arbitrary, does it not?
MT GUNNY
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Everyone, Except Crimminals!
ThrottleJockey
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Never mind.
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They already can.
All it takes is a clean background, $200 for the transfer tax and enough money to pay for it.
Glockman17366
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I also think selective fire firearms should be legal...the only group that should be severely limited in possesion should be the feds.
Of course, this availability must tie into swift punishment for those who use firearms (or any other weapon) for rape, robbery and murder. "Swift" to me means execution within 60 days.
Of course, this availability must tie into swift punishment for those who use firearms (or any other weapon) for rape, robbery and murder. "Swift" to me means execution within 60 days.
N003k
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Assuming you mean just as easily as purchasing any other firearm, then yes. Also including that the laws for use of a gun in a crime are even more strict, and are enforced.
Would definatly be nice to not have to either be lucky and have a real good high paying job, or be real good at saving money to ever be able to afford one.
Would definatly be nice to not have to either be lucky and have a real good high paying job, or be real good at saving money to ever be able to afford one.
Spreadfire Arms
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greenr18 wrote:
how many Title II firearms transactions have you personally had this happen?
how many Title II firearms transactions have you personally had this happen?
The wait is under 90 days now for a $10,000 fully transferable registered receiver AR. No, not everyone can afford to purchase a machine gun, but anyone that can purchase more vehicle than they need can.
Let's be sure that everyone understands that machine guns are perfectly legal to own under federal law. It is a myth that they are not. A couple of states may prohibit it, personal finances may deter you, your local LEO may not approve it, but there are people selling and buying legal machine guns every year with no little more effort, or expense, than purchasing a used car from your local Ford dealer.
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kickert318
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Wow... I usually do not post in here but, some of the things I have read in this post amaze me. First off I believe it was already said but, needs to be repeated. With a $200 Class III tax stamp everyone citizen with a clean backround can purchase a full auto weapon. Second, why would anyone really need a full auto weapon? Most ranges have these weapons that can be rented for fun and there is no truly practical purpose for owning a fully automatic firearm. It is simply not practial to spray 1300 rounds a minute at a target and account from every round. Do you really want to hit your intended target or kill a dozen innocent bystanders? Third, the thought of any crackhead being able to legally buy a full auto high point 9mm instead of the already dangerous semi-auto, scares the living **** out of me.
ThrottleJockey
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Hoppy, I don't think that was the point. Anyone that spends $70,000 on a hummer instead of $40,000 on a suburban/yukon is what he was referring to, I think. And since the hummer and suburban are on the same chassis, the only difference is $30,000
Jorg Nysgerrig
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That's just silly. What's next, saying that handguns cost to much because you have to choose between them and a laptop computer?
i know what he said, but cars have nothing to do with anything the only reason why full autos are so expensive is because that stupid 86 ban which is a huge friggen infringement if you ask me. if citizens in some scandinavian countries are trusted with fully automatic assault rifles to act as would be minute men in a crisis, countries that probably dont even have something similar to the second amendment, then we as americans should be at least able to do the same with out huge financial burden or a stack of paperwork
"shall not be infringed" so it should be the case without any extra fees that Joe Public should be able to get a fully automatic weapon. What would they "need" it for is a red herring to the argument.
It is kind of sad with all of the AK47 style and AR15s out there not operating as originally designed but looking the part.
It is kind of sad with all of the AK47 style and AR15s out there not operating as originally designed but looking the part.
kickert318
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"shall not be infringed" so it should be the case without any extra fees that Joe Public should be able to get a fully automatic weapon. What would they "need" it for is a red herring to the argument.
It is kind of sad with all of the AK47 style and AR15s out there not operating as originally designed but looking the part."
Ok, Earp. The AR15 is the civilian model of the full auto M16. There never was and never has been a full auto AR15. The AK47 is full auto. The look alikes are SKS type weapons such as the AK74.
Also there is a fine line between infringed and regulated. The sale of fully automatic weapons needs to be heavily regulated due to all of the bottom feeders in todays society.
It is kind of sad with all of the AK47 style and AR15s out there not operating as originally designed but looking the part."
Ok, Earp. The AR15 is the civilian model of the full auto M16. There never was and never has been a full auto AR15. The AK47 is full auto. The look alikes are SKS type weapons such as the AK74.
Also there is a fine line between infringed and regulated. The sale of fully automatic weapons needs to be heavily regulated due to all of the bottom feeders in todays society.
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well for those of us who cant afford either, or for that matter cant afford much more than a months supply of ramen. the difference is lost on us. the US gov buys AK 47's for something under 200$. why are we any less significant?
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NoBS67
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need full auto?
Well my military patrol rifle is not even full auto. The M4 is a nice tool for it's intended duty. The 240b that I also am an assistant gunner on is full auto. The civilian world should have rocket launchers and M1 Tanks too and heck maybe nuclear submarines also...... The reason the new M4 has a three shot burst is because full auto might sound nice and look cool in the movies but isn't worth much in the real world. If I was being over taken and knew I was in deep chit I could let the three round burst work with a little better effect than just spending ammo. I would guess most military and or law enforcement officers would understand my point I am trying to get to. When I was young, some years ago and I first shot the M60 machine gun I thought it was cool and had purpose. These type of machine guns do what they were invented to do......put lots of lead down fast. I just don't think our society would want that style and ability of power in the streets. LEO's would have to have a tank to take on some neighhborhoods soon after an open ticket for all who want are allowed to have one. PS.......ammo weighs a lot and I can tell you after you carry a few cans of 762 around you will consider what is available to be fair enough....
Well my military patrol rifle is not even full auto. The M4 is a nice tool for it's intended duty. The 240b that I also am an assistant gunner on is full auto. The civilian world should have rocket launchers and M1 Tanks too and heck maybe nuclear submarines also...... The reason the new M4 has a three shot burst is because full auto might sound nice and look cool in the movies but isn't worth much in the real world. If I was being over taken and knew I was in deep chit I could let the three round burst work with a little better effect than just spending ammo. I would guess most military and or law enforcement officers would understand my point I am trying to get to. When I was young, some years ago and I first shot the M60 machine gun I thought it was cool and had purpose. These type of machine guns do what they were invented to do......put lots of lead down fast. I just don't think our society would want that style and ability of power in the streets. LEO's would have to have a tank to take on some neighhborhoods soon after an open ticket for all who want are allowed to have one. PS.......ammo weighs a lot and I can tell you after you carry a few cans of 762 around you will consider what is available to be fair enough....
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