Gallup Poll: Support for AW ban at record low
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Interesting indeed. Thanks for the link. 
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Very interesting.
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A couple of sources are claiming that the Dems have a more than 50% chance of controlling senate.
If they do end up controlling the Senate, I bet close to 100% of the Dems will suddenly support it.
Well, they didn't pass anything that last time they controlled both House and Senate. Is something different this time around?
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Old Dog
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Well, let's let ourselves feel good about this one poll tonight, but it won't change the fact that when we wake up on November 10th, we'll likely have lost the U.S. Senate and the Presidency (oh, and then we get to look forward to the likelihood of HRC appointing three new liberal Supreme Court justices).
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"Well, they didn't pass anything that last time they controlled both House and Senate. Is something different this time around?"
For crying out loud, RX, it's like her signature policy initiative this go-around. Remember how Obama was crowing about the plight of the uninsured & whatever back in 2007? Hillary's shtick is gun control, a bunch of free stuff, and foreign misadventure.
The only way --the ONLY way-- she's not spending her political capital on gun control is if she is raking in so much money under the table she literally chokes to death on it. Doesn't mean she'll get gun control (similar to Obama's failure though not for lack of trying after Newtown/etc) but it will definitely be a focus, at least initially. Probably UBCs and Feinstein's AWB, as usual for a mass-shooting aftermath. The only real question is how devoted she is, as far as whether she'll keep butting heads after being rebuffed initially (I trust our Republicans to hold the line at least a few times when the proposal has a D next to it)
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For crying out loud, RX, it's like her signature policy initiative this go-around. Remember how Obama was crowing about the plight of the uninsured & whatever back in 2007? Hillary's shtick is gun control, a bunch of free stuff, and foreign misadventure.
The only way --the ONLY way-- she's not spending her political capital on gun control is if she is raking in so much money under the table she literally chokes to death on it. Doesn't mean she'll get gun control (similar to Obama's failure though not for lack of trying after Newtown/etc) but it will definitely be a focus, at least initially. Probably UBCs and Feinstein's AWB, as usual for a mass-shooting aftermath. The only real question is how devoted she is, as far as whether she'll keep butting heads after being rebuffed initially (I trust our Republicans to hold the line at least a few times when the proposal has a D next to it)
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Keep in mind they don't call it gun control. It's called gun safety now. Like who can be against gun safety? It's for the children. It's for the toddlers. Who can't be for the children and toddlers?
Liberals will use any trick or catch phrase to further their anti gun agenda.
Liberals will use any trick or catch phrase to further their anti gun agenda.
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American are becoming disgusted with more restrictive laws that offer no real solutions. Gun laws have been pursued since 1934. At the same time the conviction for firearms violations is more often plea bargained away first.
This came up in a discussion with one of my Canadian/American friends. My response to his argument was
>200 Million people killed by their own governments in the 20th Century. He had no response.
Maybe the NRA should hire HRC to give one of her 20 minutes speeches at the next convention, and she can
(wink wink) have a different public/private position of firearms restrictions.
>200 Million people killed by their own governments in the 20th Century. He had no response.
Maybe the NRA should hire HRC to give one of her 20 minutes speeches at the next convention, and she can
(wink wink) have a different public/private position of firearms restrictions.
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"Common sense gun safety. " Is the language of the day. aka BS
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I think the support for most forms of gun control are at their lowest point in years, not just those firearms that some consider "assault" type. The general public is becoming more informed and knowledgeable. Kinda say's the same thing in your link.
Deanimator
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It's dawning on people finally that:
- They've been lied to for decades by the anti-gun cult.
- The current power structure BOTH doesn't care who it lets into the country AND wants to disarm the potential victims of criminal and terrorist attack
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I honestly don't think the majority of anti-gunners intentionally lied to anyone, only repeated incorrect information and judged guns on emotions and not facts. Folks that watched news on T.V. and saw terrorist with AKs slung over their shoulders, saw AKs as instruments of death, while at the same time, a picture of a sportsman with a Remington 7400 slung over his shoulder is an American Icon. Emotion. As for the lies and half truths, I've seen many folks here on this forum use them to promote guns. It's done on both sides....regularly, by a few.
I also don't think the primary objective is to disarm potential victims, but to many, they wrongly believe that by making guns harder to get for everyone is going to make it harder for criminals to get guns. Again, emotion.
When the majority of folks in this country do not own firearms, they do not automatically understand them. Thus it was easy to rely on emotion instead of fact. Now that folks are becoming better educated and informed, they understand firearms and realize that Elmer Fudd's firearm has just as much destructive potential as the terrorists AK. Many also have come to realize that disarming law abiding citizens does not make them safer.
I would imagine that the idea of revisiting a ban that didn't seem to change anything before or after just seems like a waste of what Congress is supposed to be spending its efforts on. The frustration with how ineffective legislators are has a lot to do with frustration with legislation that isn't about economics or security.
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A lie intentionally planted in the public domain, mindlessly repeated by the ignorant is still a lie.
The lie was INTENTIONALLY spawned to deceive. That the majority of those disseminating it are utterly clueless doesn't change the fact that it IS a lie.
The duplicity of the grifters at the top of the anti-gun cult was established beyond doubt decades ago. There's no innocent explanation for the LIES that Josh Sugerman and company have told. Even he admits his own intent to deceive.
People are catching on.
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(emphasis by me)
That line is for the win.
When it comes to gun control, she is one bad hombre. That, I can tell you.
Deanimator
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As with many anti-gun cultists, it's personal with her.
She sees it in part as a way to harm people who do not fawn over her.
danez71
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Very true. It wasn't covered in the article but the poll also found only 29% of the people polled own a gun.
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What jumps out to me is the 25% of Republicans who favor the ban. That number should be 0%. I think the White House is a long shot. But I think Republicans keep a slim majority in the Senate and retain the House. Republicans are much better at holding the line than in the 90s when we last had to tangle with this witch. Hope for the best. Keep fighting.
Deanimator
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Somebody being a Republican is no guarantee that they support the 2nd Amendment. Here's a very cursory list of well known anti-gun Republicans in recent memory:
- Rudy Giuliani
- Henry Hyde
- George Voinovich
- Bob Taft
- William Kristol
Being a Republican makes it more likely that you're pro-gun, but it's no guarantee.
People in BOTH parties hate individual liberty and human autonomy. The difference is that they almost completely dominate today's Democrat Party.
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Yes, when you really think about it, the last solidly pro gun President was John F.Kennedy, one of only 3 POTUS to belong to the NRA. The others being TR and Bush 41. A sad record.
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