Girl seeks gun info

[dredwinggirl13]

Hey there! I'm new to this site, as recommended by another member, [and a relatively new gun enthusiast thanks to that same member] and I have a pretty important question for any and all of you who read this. I have a project due in my AP government class about "The Importance of the Second Amendment" and I was wondering if you all could give me some good primary source links/quotes/statistics/etc. pertaining to the subject. I have a few things already figured out, but the internet is a big place and I'm sure I couldn't ever find some of the stuff you probably look at on a daily basis Any and all information would be extremely helpful and greatly greatly appreciated.

 

[cuervo]

You'll probably receive many replies and links, so here is a common one:
http://www.guncite.com/

 

[dredwinggirl13]

Wow that site is amazing. Thank you!

 

[obiwan1]

Prob the first place that I'd look is the NRA ILA website. They have TONS of info buried in there. Also look at places like Gun Owners of America and The GunZone. That should keep you buried in the computer for hours. Welcome aboard.

 

[SDC]

A history of how and why the 2nd Amendment came into being can be found on the above site at: http://www.guncite.com/journals/hardhist.html
One of the most helpful series of things you'll find are what the "founding fathers" THEMSELVES had to say on the subject; this lets you know what their intent was when they included the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights. For example:
George Mason, who insisted on a Bill of Rights in the Constitution: "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people ... To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

George Washington: "A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."

Samuel Adams: "And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms…"

Alexander Hamilton: "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."

Thomas Jefferson: "Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state."
and
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
A google search will give you PLENTY of material on the subject.

 

[Baba Louie]

Look in the upper righthand corner of each page on THR and you'll see a link called "THR Library" (underlined). Click. Read. Mucho info.

Oh yeah. Welcome to THR.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

Welcome to The High Road. If you are a college student you might find the link at the bottom of my post interesting.

 

[kingpin008]

Dredwing - First of all, welcome to THR! There are many, many excellent minds here to draw upon should you have any questions. Quite a few firearms industry professionals, as well.

One thing I would suggest, is that as you be fairly careful in what sources you use when putting your report together. One thing that the anti's are notorious for, is setting up "front" organizations that appear to be pro-gun, but are really nothing but sources of misinformation and bias.

One that comes to mind right away is the American Hunters and Shooters Association. On the surface, a gun-rights group. In reality, the group's leaders have routinely contributed large sums of money to known anti-gun organizations who actively attempt to stop the private ownership of guns in the US. Look up Bob Ricker sometime, and you'll see what I mean.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hunters_and_Shooters_Association

Sorry if this was a bit long-winded, but the sad fact is that there is a huge amount of misinformation out there, and much of it comes to us under the guise of pro-rights groups. It is extremely important that you be sure of the validity of the information you gather.

 

[Officers'Wife]

Hi Dred,

On Yahoo search try "Federalist Papers" and militia.

Selena

 

[spwenger]

Here's A Nice, Brief Essay

...prompted by the wait for the Supreme Court to announce whether it will consider the appeal of the ruling against the Washington DC Handgun ban:

http://archive.patriotpost.us/pub/07-46_Digest/

It may help you place some of the other material in perspective.

 

[dredwinggirl13]

One thing that the anti's are notorious for, is setting up "front" organizations that appear to be pro-gun, but are really nothing but sources of misinformation and bias.

I figured thats why it would be best to come here
I'm too much of an amature to spot the misinformation

 

[kingpin008]

It can be tough, for sure. I suck at writing papers because of all the research, lol. Just thought I'd mention that the fakers are out there and to be alert for it, is all. Good luck!

 

[Librarian]

I have a project due in my AP government class about "The Importance of the Second Amendment" and I was wondering if you all could give me some good primary source links/quotes/statistics/etc. pertaining to the subject.

High school, yes? Just how interested are you?

Glenn Reynolds had a bunch of links in today's blog entries:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1030769
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=960788
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=960810
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=959417
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=960812

It's usually worth the effort to figure out how to get papers from SSRN - the Social Science Research Network. Scroll down a bit until you see

SSRN Electronic Paper Collection

Download the document from:

then click on one of the graphics of a piece of paper with a down-arrow on it.

 

[gaudio5]

welcome i have no link to add lol

 

[Marlin 45 carbine]

a fairly recent book out is 'America Fights Back'. might prove interesting 2 U. oh and welcome to the High Road. IMO you shouild find someone with a .380acp that's willing to let you run a mag thru.
good luck.

 

[strat81]

One of the most helpful series of things you'll find are what the "founding fathers" THEMSELVES had to say on the subject; this lets you know what their intent was when they included the 2nd Amendment in the Bill of Rights.

Very true! Read "The Federalist Papers" for some more information. Your school library should have a hard copy, and I'm sure there are numerous sources of them on the Net.

 

[NukemJim]

Hello and welcome to THR.

You might find thes two links helpfull

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=2

Taken from the above link

MAJOR CONCLUSIONS
Empirical research on firearms and violence has resulted in important findings that can inform policy decisions. In particular, a wealth of descriptive information exists about the prevalence of firearm-related injuries and deaths, about firearms markets, and about the relationships between rates of gun ownership and violence. Research has found, for example, that higher rates of household firearms ownership are associated with higher rates of gun suicide, that illegal diversions from legitimate commerce are important sources of crime guns and guns used in suicide, that firearms are used defensively many times per day, and that some types of targeted police interventions may effectively lower gun crime and violence. This information is a vital starting point for any constructive dialogue about how to address the problem of firearms and violence.

While much has been learned, much remains to be done, and this report necessarily focuses on the important unknowns in this field of study. The committee found that answers to some of the most pressing questions cannot be addressed with existing data and research methods, however well designed. For example, despite a large body of research, the committee found no credible evidence that the passage of right-to-carry laws decreases or increases violent crime, and there is almost no empirical evidence that the more than 80 prevention programs focused on gun-related violence have had any effect on children’s behavior, knowledge, attitudes, or beliefs about firearms. The committee found that the data available on these questions are too weak to support unambiguous conclusions or strong policy statements.

Underlining added by NukemJim

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5214a2.htm

During 2000--2002, the Task Force on Community Preventive Services (the Task Force), an independent nonfederal task force, conducted a systematic review of scientific evidence regarding the effectiveness of firearms laws in preventing violence, including violent crimes, suicide, and unintentional injury. The following laws were evaluated: bans on specified firearms or ammunition, restrictions on firearm acquisition, waiting periods for firearm acquisition, firearm registration and licensing of firearm owners, "shall issue" concealed weapon carry laws, child access prevention laws, zero tolerance laws for firearms in schools, and combinations of firearms laws. The Task Force found insufficient evidence to determine the effectiveness of any of the firearms laws or combinations of laws reviewed on violent outcomes

Underlining added by NukemJim

The anti's biggest (False) argument is the gun control will decrease crime. When you have bothe the Center for Disease Control and the National Accedeamy of Science on your side in that part of the debate it kinda sorta shoots it down. (Pun intended sorry )

Hope this helps. If you have more questions please post them and I (and others) will try to help.

NukemJim

 

[Cavalier Knight]

Girl seeks gun info

Check my site Small Armz linked below

 

[jjduller1946]

Welcome.

I like Dr John Lott's research. See his site: http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/

His book, More Guns, Less Crime created uproar among nicer liberal circles because he showed through statistical analysis and research that violent crime drops significantly following right to carry laws. While common sense might lead normal criminals to think twice about car-jacking or home invasion if the folks are carrying, John Lott proved it.

So you can use Lott's research to address the argument that more guns lead to higher crime.

 

[physics]

Hi, welcome to the high road. The only thing I have to add is that you should post your paper when you're done, I'm curious as to your impressions.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm also curious as to what your teacher thinks the significance of the 2nd amendment is.

 

[hockeybum]

i had to write a bill for this for my government class last year, but i deleted the file.. i did have to make a power point and oleg volk had a bunch of really good pictures he let me use

 

[littlegator]

Yesitsloaded - I'm not a student on a college campus any more, but I find your link interesting anyway. Oh, and happy 1000 post.

 

[grampster]

the cornered cat.com. Pax, one of our mod's blog especially for ladies.

 

[AZTOY]

Welcome to THR

http://www.a-human-right.com/

 

[XLMiguel]

Forgive me if this is a dup, but this might be useful in erms of framiing the converstion in contemorpary terms -

http://www.gunfacts.info/

Lotsa of good info debunking the leftist/gun-grabbers propaganda on gun control

Good luck & welcome to THR