He should have sold or passed.it on to a replacement. That's what we did in Vietnam. Somebody always want a handgun.I've always wanted a HP too.
My Marine buddy bought one and took it with him when he was deployed back in Desert Storm.
We shot the hell out of it for a month or two before he left.
Couldn't get it back home so he threw it in a garbage bin on the airbase before shipping back
If I were to see one while "shopping" I'd definitely choose the Girsan.
In for pics when yours comes in!
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burrhead
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^^^ Exactly what I was thinking.
Well ... I got the little piece of crap out. Not quite like the videos show. On the Girsan you have to drop the trigger assembly slightly to get it to release, then get it back together. 2 little dinks in the finish next to the trigger pin. Dropped trigger pull from a gritty 9#2oz to a smooth 7#14oz average.
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It's not clear why the HiPo has such a mediocre trigger. Yes, getting rid of the safety does help, but it is a really ingenious system, engineered to get around the bulk of the magazine.
I've an older, Belgian example with a clean, but moderately heavy, trigger, and the Springer, which is much better. A traded away example, Belgian/Portugal 'itinerary' model, had a really lousy trigger.
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Uncle Sam frowns on privately owned weapons in a combat zone, especially when you're a mere peon. Veterans of recent conflicts have told me they're not allowed to bring back much than the clothes they are wearing.
I wouldn't say the Browning HP has a mediocre trigger, since it was designed as a service handgun and has never caught on as a target handgun, there doesn't seem to any cottage industry of pistolsmiths who know how to improve them. I have been shooting mine with my Ciener unit in recent years, also shoot a High Standard Victor, don't feel handicapped by the Browning's trigger.
Be interesting to see if Girsan and the other makers of HP clones support them with spare parts, barrels, etc.
I wouldn't say the Browning HP has a mediocre trigger, since it was designed as a service handgun and has never caught on as a target handgun, there doesn't seem to any cottage industry of pistolsmiths who know how to improve them. I have been shooting mine with my Ciener unit in recent years, also shoot a High Standard Victor, don't feel handicapped by the Browning's trigger.
Be interesting to see if Girsan and the other makers of HP clones support them with spare parts, barrels, etc.
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I would predict that spare parts, if any will be available only during the intervals where the guns are being produced. Which probably will be short-lived.
If you really love that sort of gun, buy two of them. That way you can cannibalize one if necessary. They aren't giving them away, but they aren't crazy expensive either.
Buy any consumable/easily lost parts now if they will sell parts. Hammer, firing pin, springs, detents, etc.
There will be no aftermarket sources for parts for these replica guns that aren't built to exactly the same specs as original models.
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Hmmm, I'll be a little surprised if they really are a short run. They have been cranking out their 1911s for some time, and there are no lack of those. At least current production, whether branded Girsan or Springfield, is cheaper than what FN was producing. It has been stated that the parts interchange; I only know what I read in the papers.
I am really happy with my Springer example.
It is hard to make predictions, especially about the future.
I do follow your advice about a spare for carry guns, in our troubled times, you never know when something will be banned.
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Some parts are interchangeable. For all the guns I own, many being out of production for a good amount of time, I've never needed major replacement parts. An extractor or firing pin here and there but not much more. Now I've probably jinxed myself.
If you think about it, Remington and Marlin have been sold several times. Tasco was sold and don't honor the original 'Lifetime Warranty'
Nothing is for certain
There's a rumor out there that the Springfield Hi Power is made by Tisas or Turkey.
I used to have 3 FN Hi Powers. My buddy who is an Afghan Vet talking me out of the pretty re-parkerized one (far right):
I took the mag safeties out of both of the MKIII Hi Powers but left it in the MKI.
On my beater Israeli FN (left above) I installed an Extra Power Trigger return springs. That gave it a more positive reset vs the mushy reset of a HP with the mag safety removed and standard trigger return spring. I never got around to replacing the return spring in the MK3 I sold my buddy. You can tell the difference the extra power trigger spring makes.
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I used to have 3 FN Hi Powers. My buddy who is an Afghan Vet talking me out of the pretty re-parkerized one (far right):
I took the mag safeties out of both of the MKIII Hi Powers but left it in the MKI.
On my beater Israeli FN (left above) I installed an Extra Power Trigger return springs. That gave it a more positive reset vs the mushy reset of a HP with the mag safety removed and standard trigger return spring. I never got around to replacing the return spring in the MK3 I sold my buddy. You can tell the difference the extra power trigger spring makes.
Cylinder, Slide Extra Power Trigger Return Spring Browning Hi-Power
This extra power trigger return spring replaces the Hi-Power Mark 3 lightweight trigger return spring and older model trigger return springs. The extra...
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I don't think it's a rumor they are made by Tisas. Kind of turned me off just because.
Kind of like when Colt re-released the Ace a couple years ago. Then I found out they were importing remarked handguns. Definitely a slap on the face to the original.
Kind of like when Colt re-released the Ace a couple years ago. Then I found out they were importing remarked handguns. Definitely a slap on the face to the original.
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The Girsan accepts OEM and aftermarket parts for a standard FN Mark 3 Hi-Power. Everything down to the dovetails holding the sights are the same. There will be no shortage of parts availability for these guns in 5, or 50 years.
Funny you should mention that. In the last couple of months I've picked up two Girsans- one aluminum frame compact and one steel frame compact. And a full size Springfield. Amd an aluminum frame full size FN Hi-Power. I might sell off my FN Hi-Power.
The steel frame Girsan has the mag safety and a decent trigger. The aluminum Girsan has no mag safety and a ridiculously heavy trigger. The Springfield seems to be as good or better trigger than either of the FN Hi-Powers I have.
I looked at the Springfield before I ordered the Girsan. Springfield was nice, trigger was pretty good. I just hate it when companies rebadge what should be a reasonably priced gun, add $150-300 to price and sell it under their name.
Girsan was under $500 delivered. SA was $750 at 2 dealers
Girsan was under $500 delivered. SA was $750 at 2 dealers
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My Springer is more nicely finished than my buddy's Girsan, and has a much better trigger. But yes, it was more expensive. More recent SA-35s seem to have poorer triggers, at least the samples I examined.
I ordered the SA-35 before the Girsans were out, based on positive reviews. Mine was an early one, and troubled with extraction issues. A trip to the mothership sorted that out.
The mag safety/no mag safety thing is a puzzlement.
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I just heard that TISAS will introduce a correct "INGLIS" reproduction Hi-Power at SHOT show.
This is what I think of when I hear Inglis, it should have tangent rear sight:
A Canadian Belgian? The Inglis Hi-Power - The Armory Life
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INGLIS MKI* HI POWER - C17984
9mm Luger; very good bore, very good grips, 4.75'' barrel, Original parkerized finish and checkered black plastic grips. Complete with an original JI marked...
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The new Turkish Inglis, from the clips I've read, looks to be a standard MKI Hi Power with internal extractor. So basically they bought / stole in Inglis name.
Jim Watson
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So does a business call itself Springfield Armory. There is or was a copy of Inland.
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This would open a can of worms regarding the shoulder stock. It's reputed that original Inglis can legally use a shoulder stock (true of the Broomhandle Mauser as well), but it's doubtful the BATF would be agreeable for new production.
Moon
Can i ask how are ya liking the Girsan aluminum frame compact? Thanks, am giving it some consideration as always wanted a lightweight detective version.
I like it. Thin grips that fit my hand well. Pretty close to hitting point of aim out of the box. Decent knockoff match rear sight. No mag disconnect safety. Only thing I didn't like is the heavy trigger.
I've got a standard size and a shorty Girsan hi power, like them both. I carry the shorty daily in a Simply Rugged CID holster. After removing the mag safety both trigger pulls are around 6.5 pounds. The Girsans seem to be identical to my mk3 Browning. I plan on shooting the full size in IDPA in the spring. I'll be looking at getting a LW Girsan soon for carry as well. I've put around a thousand rounds between them. The only malfunction I remember was related to a bad mag.
If you are not opposed to order online check out G4gguns.com Ordered mine from them, price, shipping, service second to none.
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Are Girsan Beretta clones as good a bang for the buck as well? I just stumbled on one on Gunbroker.com
