Glock 37 are out

[Sox]

Well the Glock 37's are out and about. Saw one at a gunshow this weekend after others had mentioned it over on glocktalk. Turns out it is not a G17 width slide, but a G21 width slide on a G17 frame. Major disappointment. What was Gaston thinking. Top heavy. I don't see how they will ever pull off a compact and subcompact. If you ask me that move right there has sealed the fate of .45GAP. Not like anyone asked the question in the first place-to get a .45 in stubbier round, but with its initial conception being universal holster sizes etc. it stood a wee bit of a chance. Now it is simply a G21 with a G17 grip-oh well.

 

[Devonai]

So then you're saying that all the pictures in magazines I've seen were NOT the G37 after all, despite the model number stamped onto the slide?

 

[Navy joe]

How exactly did folks think that you could stuff a .45 case in a G17 width slide/barrel and still have room left for chamber sidewalls? Anyways, it seems that all my .45s have grip safeties, won't be needing this new thing.

 

[Blueduck]

Well NJ the G-36 does the "real" 45 with a slimmer slide than the 17/22/31. I think they could have made somthing work. Only a very fat and lazy company would dare put something like this out these days.

*Maybe* had this abominiation come out ten years ago it could have given the 40 S/W G-22 a run for the police market. Now days budgets are strained, new pistols not a high priority. Doubt it will recieve much LEO interest and even less civillian.

Prediction:


45 GAP= 41 Action Express
G-37= Edsel/Bren 10

 

[Oracle]

I agree, I think this attempt at Glock jumping on the "have a caliber named after us" train is going to be a severe disappointment for them, especially if they don't utilize the one true advantage this round offers - a G-26 sized subcompact.

Kahr should do what Glock did with the .40 S&W, preempt the company the round is named after by making a small, concealable gun using this round. They'd probably do an amazing job.

And I really, really like Glocks, and own two! They are the best handguns I've ever owned. But, even so, I think that Glock is buying their own marketing hype on this one.

 

[Sven]

Probably a much bigger hit over in Europe, where many are banned from owning military calibers.

 

[Black Snowman]

I think Oracle has picked a good title. My 1st and favorite handgun was a Glock. Their first competition model no less in that fancy new .40 S&W caliber.

If the pictures I've seen of the G37 are accurate it's slightly slimmer than the full size, but add the marginal differance in size, the slight decrease in power (if I understand correctly) and the only real advantage you end up with is the grip feeling like a smaller gun.

Now add the disadvantages of a new cartridge with no load data history in a caliber that has hundrads of differant combination of bullet styles and weights for in and I think you're in trouble.

Early on to be at all usable it will have to be reloaded. But your options are going to be very limited to what data has been reasearched and the lighter bullets that don't take up too much case volume. Speaking of cases, you have find them to reload or by factory ammo which will be difficult and expensive especially early on.

Know what all this means? I'll probably buy one for sure. "Why? you ask." If it fails it's collectable, if it succedes it could potentially be the next big new defense cartride since the .40 S&W and if that mag capacity ban isn't lifted makes quite a bit of sense to a new shooter. If you only get 10 rounds but like a small grip this could be the way to go.

You get a medium frame gun size grip the the most power you can muster for your piddley little 10 shots.

Funny, before the magazine ban most people were happy with 7 or 8 round magazines, now if it's not at least 10 people think it better be a pocket gun. See how effective the ban was? It brought about the development of a few new rounds and a whole ton of new guns.

 

[denfoote]

Probably a much bigger hit over in Europe, where many are banned from owning military calibers.

I think Sven hit the nail right on the head!! Just because it probably won't be a hit here in the US, it does not mean it won't be elsewhere. I mean, Glock does market pistols that we have no experiential knowledge of!! Anybody seen many G25's or G28's at gun shows or on dealer's shelves???

 

[Black Snowman]

Between the military caliber restrictions in Europe and the magazine restrictions in the USA I bet it will be profitable for Glock if not wildly successful. I would bet certainly profitable enough to make it in the standard Glock Small Medium and Large. Who want's to take bets that the Small will be re-barreled G36?

 

[45auto]

That's interesting.

The G36( ACP) has a slimmer slide than the model 17/19 and yet the GAP went to a 21 slide.

Higher pressure of the GAP load? I thought the pressures were close to a the ACP.

Well, Glock is not a stupid company by any means, so they must have tested the GAP with the thinner slide and had problems- I assume.

 

[krept]

Probably a much bigger hit over in Europe, where many are banned from owning military calibers.

Is the .40 SW a military/LE cartridge over there? If not, is it a big hit in Europe? IIRC Ayoob loved his G27 for carry over there because he mentioned it was not a restricted cartridge... don't know if times changed or not...