Glock Trigger Question

[Jaywalker]

After years of reading about them but not finding one that I could comfortably work the trigger (medium large palms, short fingers), I was finally able to work the trigger of a G19 Gen 4, and bought one. (I'm aware of the brass-to-face possibility.)

The box label says "FXD 5.5LB," which I assume means it has the 5.5-pound connector, but I don't know what the "FXD" means. Also, if I'm looking in the right place, it has the standard coil spring, not the New York V-shaped things. It also has the 30274 ejector, but I don't know about the extractor.

The problem I have dry-firing it is that the trigger pull is very heavy, way more than the 8-pound limit of my trigger pull gauge. Is that common for a brand new piece?

 

[Sapper771]

You may have gotten an older Gen4 19, as in before they started shipping them with the newer connector. Not sure what they are calling the new connector now.....heard so many terms.

"FXD" should stand for Fixed Sights.

This is what I did with mine. I purchased a Gen3 G17 smooth face trigger and trigger bar. Polished it. Purchased a Ghost 3.5 connector, polished it. Purchased a reduced strength plunger spring and an increased strength trigger return spring. The trigger pull now is in the high 4# to mid 5# range, which is where I like it. Not too light, not heavy.

The Ghost connectors are the best "non race" connectors I have used so far.

 

[Jaywalker]

Thanks. The cartridge cases included in the box show they were collected on 4 September 2013, so this thing was just born. I appreciate the fixed sights interpretation.

It's probably too early to think about a new trigger bar - I just picked it up yesterday. It's been a long time since I was tempted to work a trigger with my middle finger, though...

 

[rbernie]

I own and shoot a number of Gen4s and none of them had a trigger that didn't reliably measure at 5 - 5.5 pounds.

How well does it shoot?

ETA - yes, you do NOT have a NYT1 or NYT2 trigger.

 

[YZ]

Even if the trigger is a little heavier than expected, it will not impede your accuracy. If the break is predictable and clean enough (minimal drag), the rest is up to you. You may even realize that the Glock is not your cup of tea. A lot of shooters feel that way.

 

[Jaywalker]

rbernie: I own and shoot a number of Gen4s and none of them had a trigger that didn't reliably measure at 5 - 5.5 pounds.

How well does it shoot?

I don't know how well it shoots - I won't waste cartridge money on this trigger. Right now, I'm dry-firing it.

Did they come out of the box at 5.5 pounds?

 

[herrwalther]

Did they come out of the box at 5.5 pounds?

They should. It is one of those things Glock likes to brag about: consistent triggers. In my experience, you can get anything from a 3 to 10 pound trigger on a stock Glock.

 

[dprice3844444]

i swent my 2 gen 3 glock 19c's to glock and they put g17 round triggers in them

 

[rbernie]

All of my Glock triggers came out of the box at six pounds or so and settled to between five and six pounds pretty quickly.

 

[Sapper771]

Thanks. The cartridge cases included in the box show they were collected on 4 September 2013, so this thing was just born. I appreciate the fixed sights interpretation.

It's probably too early to think about a new trigger bar - I just picked it up yesterday. It's been a long time since I was tempted to work a trigger with my middle finger, though...

It should have the new "dot" connector in it then. It should be around 6 pounds , as rbernie stated.

Its never too late/early to have a good trigger in a good firearm.

Maybe it just needs to be stripped down, cleaned well, and lubricated.

 

[mikey01]

I purchased my gen 4 about a month ago, measured brand new out of the box was close to 7 lbs, I have put about 400 rounds through it and I measure about 5.75 -6 lbs, I would think you will lighten up some after shooting it

 

[Jaywalker]

herrwalther:

Originally posted by Jaywalker: Did they come out of the box at 5.5 pounds?

They should. It is one of those things Glock likes to brag about: consistent triggers. In my experience, you can get anything from a 3 to 10 pound trigger on a stock Glock.

Thanks, reassuring info.

I purchased my gen 4 about a month ago, measured brand new out of the box was close to 7 lbs, I have put about 400 rounds through it and I measure about 5.75 -6 lbs, I would think you will lighten up some after shooting it

I think so, too. I was undecided (shoot or sell), but I think I'll shoot it. A little dry-firing has lightened it to just "bad" from "unacceptable."

 

[gidaeon]

Fwiw, My late gen3 with std. connector and spring is 7.5lbs after a few hundred rounds and "lots" of dry-fire. When I got it, it was over 8.

 

[rskent]

It's probably too early to think about a new trigger bar - I just picked it up yesterday.

When I started looking for a G19 I already had picked up a new connector for it. Its just something you (I) need with a Glock. A new connector and a lot of dryfire practice.

 

[Jaywalker]

Before I alter it, I want to shoot it first for reliability testing. I don't believe in this recent "couple of hundred rounds to break it in" - at today's ammunition prices, that's pretty expensive. Failures or brass-to-face and I'll certainly sell it. I think with a Glock it doesn't matter much if you can advertise it as "NIB, unfired" or not.

Still, with the flat trigger and 3.5 connector, that would likely bring the pull down to right at five pounds of comfortable pull... I can see the draw of these things - all those alterations possible (not by me, yet), easily added at home.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Failures or brass-to-face and I'll certainly sell it. I think with a Glock it doesn't matter much if you can advertise it as "NIB, unfired" or not.

The brass-to-face issue can be resolved with a new ejector (the ejector/trigger assembly costs about $8) -- you just have to get the right one. There's a couple of message chains on various forums about which one to order. (And most folks, using the internet, can change out the parts pretty easily.)

Selling a gun with THAT problem is like throwing money out the window.

 

[Jaywalker]

Walt Sherrill: ...The brass-to-face issue can be resolved with a new ejector (the ejector/trigger assembly costs about $8) -- you just have to get the right one. There's a couple of message chains on various forums about which one to order. (And most folks, using the internet, can change out the parts pretty easily.)

Selling a gun with THAT problem is like throwing money out the window.

Thanks. I looked at the issue for awhile before I ordered it and decided there was more to the issue than simply an extractor or an ejector; some guns have the problem, but most don't. Buying new meant if Glock couldn't cure it, they'd at least exchange it for one that probably worked - always assuming I haven't voided the warranty by changing parts out myself. Glock is pretty coy about the BTF issue, given that it's as widespread as it is, which is strange only if they don't know its cause or if fixing the design would be too expensive, it seems to me.

Glocks are pretty hard to find around here, so I had to order to handle it and see if I liked it, and I don't, much. It won't cost me anything to sell it. Also, I bought a Walther PPQ at the same time to see which I liked better, and it's the Walther by a country mile.

So, I may keep and shoot it, but there's no driving reason to do so other than learning how to tinker with it.

 

[rskent]

there was more to the issue than simply an extractor or an ejector; some guns have the problem, but most don't

My Gen 4 seems to be a little over sprung. With 115 grain light reloads it will occasionally send an empty at my face.
With heaver bullets and heaver loads the ejection gets much better. Can you guess what loads I shoot through the gun.
That's right, light cheep ass reloads. Why? Because I'm cheep and I don't care if I get hit in the face with a piece of brass now and then.

 

[okiewita40]

I picked up my new gen3 G19 back in may. Manufacture date was 12-1-2012. The trigger is right around 5 pounds w/o any mods. I have yet to have any BTF issues as of yet.

I even qualified with it at my annual range qual for the dept. I work for.

 

[Jaywalker]

Dry-firing has the heavy trigger (greater than the eight-pound limit of my RCBS Trigger Pull Gauge) down to a manageable 7 pounds. I'll try to get out to shoot it this week.

 

[hentown]

7# is way too much for a Glock 5.5# connector. Are you placing the trigger pull gauge bar at the tip of the trigger? If you place it too high, you'll get false-heavy readings.

I don't waste time dryfiring my Glocks. I immediately replace the factory connectors with aftermarket connectors. I also polish all the mating surfaces of the firing mechanisms. It's so easy to change that $10 part, the connector, that it's just not sensible to put up with a heavy trigger on a Glock.

Unless one lives in NY, then one should be trusted with a 3.5#-4# trigger on a Glock.

 

[Jaywalker]

I'm not putting the gauge on the tip, no. I'm putting it about where I estimate the center of my finger pressure - about halfway along the safety blade. Dry-firing has brought this down to six-and-a-quarter pounds at this location.

It's five-and-three-quarters pounds at the tip.

 

[hentown]

I'd still recommend an aftermarket connector and some judicious polishing.

 

[Jaywalker]

hentown: I'd still recommend an aftermarket connector...

I expect I'll get there.

 

[lhartman89]

I have a Ghost 3.5lb connector with a NY1 tan/coyote colored spring in my gen 3 G19 and like it. It gives a smooth pull. I can't say how heavy the pull is, but it is a lot lighter than with the stock 5lb connector and the NY1.