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Came with a standard Remington rubber stock that wasn't free floating the barrel. Never shot with it, trigger is good. Breaks like glass, no creep, at about 2 lbs now. Think I will lighten it down to 1.5.
Got a Rem 700 in 300 WinMag - where are my tiny groups :-)
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Dont expect great accuracy out of hunting bullets/loads. If your rifle shoots great with those loadfs then that awesome but its not terribly common. If you want the rifle to shoot really well you have to feed it the right ammo.
As to the barrel. Yes it probably will need to be replaced fairly quickly. The 300 mags are known barrel burners.
As to the barrel. Yes it probably will need to be replaced fairly quickly. The 300 mags are known barrel burners.
I have a 700FS with the Brown Precision stock in 300Win mag,and the recoil does take some getting used to,but it's not impossible to tolerate.I like to shoot my 22 during shooting sessions with the 300 to keep me relaxed.Mine likes to shoot little cloverleafs with 180 gr Accubonds.Keeping the barrel clean will probably help your rifle shoot better,300 Win's tend to copper foul a lot.Get your scope down so you can get a better cheek weld and if you don't use a rest like a lead sled or similar,get it bagged down good and get yourself behind the rifle better.They will shoot only as good as the shooter.Fix the basics,and you'll probably see an improvement.I load 180's in mine for elk,if I were using it for deer or paper I would lighten the bullet weight to help a little with the recoil.It may take some experimenting to find a load that your rifle likes.And,1.5 MOA isn't bad shooting for a stock rifle shooting factory ammo in this caliber.It's also good to make sure your scope has plenty of eye relief and is positioned far enough forward to keep from getting an idiot mark on your forehead.I wouldn't spend a dime on that rifle until I found a set of scope rings that moved the scope to within half a mile or so of the barrel.Nobody could shoot that thing good like that.
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Don`t let that .......kicks like a mule.... get into your head. Maybe you bit off more than you can chew. J s/n.
A couple of people in this thread mentioned lead sleds. Before I went modifying anything I believe I would see if I could shoot it off a lead sled or a similar type rest. It would let you tell the difference between what the rifle is doing & if you may be doing something to mess yourself up.
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Have been shooting off a bench with sandbags. Doubt the lead sled will make much difference.
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You know what they say at weddings? If you have nothing to say now, then hold your piece. Amen.
if you are not hand loading, the only thing you can do is buy several boxes of ammo, and find out which factory loads the gun likes. my mid 1980's BDL, for whatever reason, likes the less expensive ammo, better than the $50ish boxes of ammo. the best, 1.100"@100 yds is factory federal blue box 180 grain hot cores. there really is no rhyme or reason for what one rifle likes over another. it is simply up to you to find what it likes.
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I call that picture "Wasted Money" as a reminder that every component of a firearm must do its job.
The short version: 11 months to prepare for a Canadian moose hunt. Dad buys a custom .300 Win. Mag. barrel with break for his Encore Pro. Adds new Leupold VX-3 and Leupold QD rings. 1 box "cheap Winchester ammo, 6 boxes Hornady Superformance. Rifle sighted at 100 yds. in 6 shots (3-shot confirmation group included). Enter "Premium" ammo.
10" spread. Shoot 2 boxes, call son (me) concerned about new barrel. Enter son, LocTite and torque wrench. Loose rings properly tightened. Return to "Premium" ammo. Return to 10" groups, 4 boxes, order more "Premium" ammo.
Call smith, take rifle and 2 boxes ammo for evaluation. Get nervous...drive 4 hours to Cabelas and spend points on Savage 116 (with break), Leupold rings and borrow son's spare scope. Rifle sighted in with "cheap" ammo. Enter "Premium" ammo.
10"-12" groups, re-check scope. Clean and clean and clean again. Enter gunsmith...case head separation with "Premium" ammo, sub 1/2" groups with "cheap" ammo.
There's a whole lot more to the saga that was a tale of two rifles but in the end both managed sub MOA with Super X, a 63 yr. old and a set of tri-focals in the mix.
It's not always the shooter or the rifle or the ammo or the scope or the rings or the bases (did I mention the loose base?). Sometimes it's a combination of things as with the first rifle and other times it's the mindset that one particular load must surely be the best there is based solely on price. For all that went in to that hunt, a lowly 180 gr. Super X dropped his bull moose with 1 shot, at 323 yds. the first hour of the hunt.
I would surely recommend a more appropriate ring height, a muzzle break if you can spring for it and a good bit of trial with your loads, all of which have been suggested. Not every factory sample will shoot as well as every other but I don't recall any I've owned that were not capable of 1 MOA or better.
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So which if the two rifles did he use after all?
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The Savage, mainly for magazine capacity vs. single-shot. I hunted to dusk of day 6 and dropped my moose at ~ 125 yds. with my 700 in -06 with a Winchester Power Max 180 gr. I had nearly a dozen test loads chronographed that all gave similar results but I wimped out and opted for factory rounds after reading the intimidating Canadian forms. Last thing I wanted was my hand loaded ammo confiscated at the boarder and I knew there was a Cabelas in Edmonton if anything went wrong. I also brought a back-up rifle and lucky I did...
Never scabbard a rifle if you've got a free shoulder! My Model 70.
Never scabbard a rifle if you've got a free shoulder! My Model 70.
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Magnum means big kick.Maybe you should invest in a "Lead Sled".
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Nah. Doesn't have to. Dad turns 65 next month, 30 or so years military/LEO (none of it at a desk) and has no plans to part with either of his. As has been suggested, invest in a break, makes shooting comprable to a .270 in felt recoil. See above photo for some of the ammo he burned through. Original plan was for me to sight it in and save his shoulder but I doubt I got 2 boxes through between them.
The Brockman break can be closed while hunting if you've forgotten ear protection and will be no louder than a traditional barrel. We verified velocity both open and closed with the chronograph over a full box of ammo. Only meaningful difference was the report, very noticeable to me while spotting and recording. A good rest is nice for sighting in but a break is a far better investment at $189 (IMO) for recoil control.
http://www.eabco.com/brockmanbrake.html
The Brockman break can be closed while hunting if you've forgotten ear protection and will be no louder than a traditional barrel. We verified velocity both open and closed with the chronograph over a full box of ammo. Only meaningful difference was the report, very noticeable to me while spotting and recording. A good rest is nice for sighting in but a break is a far better investment at $189 (IMO) for recoil control.
http://www.eabco.com/brockmanbrake.html
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My sugestions:
1. Lose the "odd" scope--unless you can find lower rings that will fit
2. Make sure eveything is tight--scope mounts--stock etc......
3. Try a different bullet weight--good thing with the .30 cal is that are enough choices to spin your head----some rifles are just plain picky about bullet weight.
4. Give the barrel a good cleaning with copper solvent--might work--might not--can't hurt.
I always seem to have good results with Winchester Power Point and the cheap Federal stuff at Walmart---tried Federal Fusion nickle cased premium stuff in a .270 and the accuracy was abismal---good thing I got pretty nickle cases to reload because the rest was worthless.
1. Lose the "odd" scope--unless you can find lower rings that will fit
2. Make sure eveything is tight--scope mounts--stock etc......
3. Try a different bullet weight--good thing with the .30 cal is that are enough choices to spin your head----some rifles are just plain picky about bullet weight.
4. Give the barrel a good cleaning with copper solvent--might work--might not--can't hurt.
I always seem to have good results with Winchester Power Point and the cheap Federal stuff at Walmart---tried Federal Fusion nickle cased premium stuff in a .270 and the accuracy was abismal---good thing I got pretty nickle cases to reload because the rest was worthless.
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To the OP.
Not to bring your manliness into question
but if I have it right you have gone from .308 to .300 Win Mag. This is a significant increase in recoil especially off a bench. If this is your first foray into a .300 WM then perhaps you have developed a flinch. Get as shooting buddy to check this for you on the range.
If you are comfortable with the recoil then I have nothing to add that has not already been said.
Not to bring your manliness into question
but if I have it right you have gone from .308 to .300 Win Mag. This is a significant increase in recoil especially off a bench. If this is your first foray into a .300 WM then perhaps you have developed a flinch. Get as shooting buddy to check this for you on the range.If you are comfortable with the recoil then I have nothing to add that has not already been said.
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