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I have a question that maybe someone can help me understand. After watching Piers Morgan and Oreily this weekend it is obvious that the big players in the media is not on our side. It is so far from middle ground reporting it is sickening. My question is why has this happened. Shouldn't the media understand the importance of the 2A. Freedom of speech is the foundation of what they do. Wouldn't actions against the 2A give precedence that something could be done to freedom of speech.

It seems like the people that should be one of our strongest allies have become one of our worst enemies. How can piers Morgan not see that the same arguments he uses against guns may one day be used against him.

I am assuming it boils down to who signs their paychecks
 
- "NRA would not provide a spokesperson for the show."

DISTRA - "IMHO this is not good. It appears that we are head in sand.[sic]"
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Why bother showing up when you know its an ambush ? The process is controled by the media, and if you expect fairness in an interview of that nature, then you are nieve at best .
 
gawd Bill just slammed the founder of the 2a foundation then sided with stricter gun laws/ bans said that america would be cool with giving up "ak-15's" . then turns tail and talks about what a shameit is that this american being locked up over a gun charge outside the country is.... what a freaking turn coat.

also
my prayers are with the young man locked up abroad right now, any just hope he is brought home safe soon!
 
mnrivrat said:
Why bother showing up when you know its an ambush ?
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Precisely. O'Reilly (self)portrays himself as knowledgeable about the issue, but his performance (AK-15s? Really? :scrutiny:) suggests otherwise.

In the last go 'round just a few months ago over the issue with Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R) it became evident that O'Reilly is 1.) no friend of the 2A, and 2.) is extremely ignorant of the topic as evidenced by his rude interruptions of the Congressman in which he interjected numerous mistaken beliefs and claims.

The media, even the seemingly conservative cable news programs, is no friend of ours.
 
I support banning the "AK-15". They should focus specifically on that model rifle; it's an abomination, and it's time to be rid of it.

:neener:
 
They do this after every gun related crime. It is the in thing to do. Dicks Sptg. goods bans sales of semiautos Bushmaster is folding. All of these outfits will be wanting our Biz when the heat is off. Just don't forget who failed us when we were down. Don't support O'Rieley or Dicks Sptg. goods and dump your Bushmaster.:scrutiny:
 
So much O'Reilly bashing.
He's pretty good on guns after Katrina wised him up on what govt. does to help people feel all secure.
He DID point out that the founders ratified the 2nd amendment because they feared a tyrannical government. He got THAT right.
His AK-15 malapropism was quickly rectified.
He was hardly mean or nasty with his guest.
All in all a decent segment.
And I was shocked with Bernie Goldberg's stance against "assault weapons." You'd think he atleast would "get it."
 
mljdeckard said:
No. Billy O has always been overall anti-gun, and thinks that the Second Amendment is about hunting.......
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Then why did he actually STATE on last night's show the founders ratified the 2A because they feared a tyrannical government?
Look, O'Reilly is not perfect by any means. But he's a world better than the liberals on MSNBC and other wholly liberal oriented cable shows.
 
O'Reilly and Goldberg are in the bubble New Yorkers. They don't understand what 2A is all about, yet say they are for it. They are both for banning semi-auto rifles that cosmetically resemble military rifles. They are ignorant and a reflection of their media and NYC bias. They are elitists in every sense of the word, and I have lost tremendous respect for both of them.
 
Look, O'Reilly is not perfect by any means. But he's a world better than the liberals on MSNBC and other wholly liberal oriented cable shows.
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He's actually MUCH worse, and a much greater danger to us. He's a "conservative" who is anti-gun. The antis are very adept at using such people to further their own cause. It makes their proposed regulations seem more "reasonable."

Don't support him, he's a total pinhead.
 
Cosmoline said:
He's actually MUCH worse, and a much greater danger to us. He's a "conservative" who is anti-gun. The antis are very adept at using such people to further their own cause. It makes their proposed regulations seem more "reasonable."

Don't support him, he's a total pinhead.
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He is 1.) NOT a conservative, he self-identifies as a "traditionalist," and 2.) he IS NOT antigun. He supports the right of the people to own guns and has become more so after the Katrina disaster as I stated.
You don't have to like him, but that's NOT an excuse for a lie.
 
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he IS NOT antigun.
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Res ipsa loquitur:

[O’Reilly countered, “You can buy an AK-47 in this country and no federal agency will know you buy it. And as the guy in Colorado proved, you can buy a mass amount of ammunition on the Internet and nobody’s reporting it.”

He continued, “Here’s my deal and you tell me where I’m wrong. If you sell heavy weaponry – semi-automatics, automatics, ammunition — all you do is you file with FBI and that way the FBI can cross-reference. All right, say the FBI has you on a terror watch list and then it comes in that you’re buying an AK, well the FBI’s going to put you under surveillance.”
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http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/07/2...n-congressman-chaffetz-over-gun-control-laws/

By their spin shall ye know them.
 
Do your homework on Rupert Murdoch. The Wizard of OZ behind the curtain. Meglomania is NOT liberty, nor is it democracy. Know thine enemy!
 
Yep, Windbag Bill O' is on your side. He has clearly stated you have the right to own fire arms. He sees no problem as long as the FBI is notified of every purchase type of arm and where it will be stored. He would limit Mags. and anyone buying 500 rounds of ammo must be reported to the FBI Pronto. He is a Liberal or don't you know an attack dog from a poodle.:scrutiny:
 
Every time he writes a new book he changes his point of view. I'd be mad, but I got all his books on discount before places like Borders and Walden's closed down. He'll suck up to whatever group keeps him relevant. He is becoming a old man scared of "dying" alone. Aka scared he will be ignored and forgotten by the new media.
 
Used to watch B.O. ... gave up on him. Same with Krauthead and Bernie. Just NOT my kind of Conservatives. If you're luke warm ... you're useless!
If you're anti-gun (notwithstanding the "Katrina" story) ... you're REALLY useless!
 
Cosmoline said:
Tommygunn said:
he IS NOT antigun.
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[O’Reilly countered, “You can buy an AK-47 in this country and no federal agency will know you buy it. And as the guy in Colorado proved, you can buy a mass amount of ammunition on the Internet and nobody’s reporting it.”

He continued, “Here’s my deal and you tell me where I’m wrong. If you sell heavy weaponry – semi-automatics, automatics, ammunition — all you do is you file with FBI and that way the FBI can cross-reference. All right, say the FBI has you on a terror watch list and then it comes in that you’re buying an AK, well the FBI’s going to put you under surveillance.”
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http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/07/24...-control-laws/

By their spin shall ye know them.
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It's true that he is not perfect.
BUT he still defends the right to own firearms no matter that he unwittingly meanders off into liberal land on some of the periperal.
He did this earleier this week; he wanted the FBI to have a registration list of "assault weapon" owners so if they commit domestic violence the police can check and then grab the AR from the wifebeating gorilla.
Somehow it gets ignored that when police investigate these things they usually get a warrant from a judge and take every gun the gorilla owns, not just the evil black rifle.
I wanted to throw a brick at O'Reilly's head then, but A.) I didn't have a brick and B.) it would do no good as I'd only have smashed the LCD screen on my TV set.:banghead::banghead:
He remains a refreshing alternative to the MSNBC and CNN liberals who will only outright lie and promote the banning of ALL guns.
 
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