Let's put this one to rest: I KNOW they use M14 rifles because 1) I have been there and 2) here is a quote from the link listed above: "As the active sentry nears the conclusion of his walk, a uniformed relief commander enters the plaza to announce the Changing of the Guard. When the sentinel assigned the next walk leaves the guards' quarters, he unlocks the bolt of his M-14 rifle to signify that he is ready to begin the ceremony. The relief commander approaches the tomb, slowly salutes, then faces the visitors and requests silence during the ceremony."
Gov't Shutsdown - Tomb of Unknowns Guarded
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PATH
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Duty and Honor are still srongly held beliefs apparently. Thank God!
madmike
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It shouldn't surprise me, yet it did.
Just a comment...John Ringo portrayed an outstanding scene at the Tomb in "Gust Front." The world overrun, death toll in the millions, an alien wave swarming across Maryland (Who, in the face of alien invasion, FINALLY got concealed carry ;-) ), and the guards at the Tomb awaiting the enemy's pleasure...in dress greens with loaded rifles.
Duty should not be taken lightly.
Just a comment...John Ringo portrayed an outstanding scene at the Tomb in "Gust Front." The world overrun, death toll in the millions, an alien wave swarming across Maryland (Who, in the face of alien invasion, FINALLY got concealed carry ;-) ), and the guards at the Tomb awaiting the enemy's pleasure...in dress greens with loaded rifles.
Duty should not be taken lightly.
Moparmike
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OUTSTANDING!
However, I would have offered HMMWV's for them to sit in, because if you are blown away by the wind, then you arent guarding anything. Maybe I am just a pansie.
However, I would have offered HMMWV's for them to sit in, because if you are blown away by the wind, then you arent guarding anything. Maybe I am just a pansie.
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DD,
True honor has no thought of one's personal safety. They at all times are willing to risk life for another with no hesitation. Whether that individual is dead or alive.
It may be only symbolic, but in a town surrounded by some of the most treasonist polititians, it stands to represent to duty, honor and commitment. Something that has vanished from this nations capital.
True honor has no thought of one's personal safety. They at all times are willing to risk life for another with no hesitation. Whether that individual is dead or alive.
It may be only symbolic, but in a town surrounded by some of the most treasonist polititians, it stands to represent to duty, honor and commitment. Something that has vanished from this nations capital.
VaughnT
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I can honestly say that if I were half the man those guards are, I'd be doing great.
Thank God there are still Americans of that caliber.
Thank God there are still Americans of that caliber.
dangerousdude
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Putting myself in the unknown soldiers shoes certainly they wouldn't want "America's Finest" killed guarding there dead corps that really doesn't need to be guarded in the land of the Free.
longtom4570
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I read where one Sgt1st class? walked his post for 5/12 hrs so others would not have to,to me that is what a leader is all about imho
imhogryphon
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dangerousdude,
Obviously you don't "get it". That was obvious from the first post you made, you don't need to keep repeating yourself.
These guys are not going to abandon their post just over a storm.
Obviously you don't "get it". That was obvious from the first post you made, you don't need to keep repeating yourself.
These guys are not going to abandon their post just over a storm.
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"It's just considered to be the greatest honor to go out there and guard," Holmes said. "It's not only the unknowns. It's a symbol that represents everyone who's fought and died for our country."
Sgt. Christopher Holmes USA
The man who stood a 5 1/2 hour watch while 20+ trees were knocked down in the storm at Arlington...
nuff said
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Sgt. Christopher Holmes USA
The man who stood a 5 1/2 hour watch while 20+ trees were knocked down in the storm at Arlington...
nuff said
Adios
dangerousdude
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I think if the water level rose over there heads they
would in-fact would abandon there post. In the second post I was trying to offer a viewpoint from one of the unknown dead soldiers buried there and I don't think they would have a problem with the guards abandoning there graves in that situation.
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"It's just considered to be the greatest honor to go out there and guard," Holmes said. "It's not only the unknowns. It's a symbol that represents everyone who's fought and died for our country."
Sgt. Christopher Holmes USA
I also disagree with that statement, I believe the greatest honor is to die in battle defending your counrty.
would in-fact would abandon there post. In the second post I was trying to offer a viewpoint from one of the unknown dead soldiers buried there and I don't think they would have a problem with the guards abandoning there graves in that situation.
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"It's just considered to be the greatest honor to go out there and guard," Holmes said. "It's not only the unknowns. It's a symbol that represents everyone who's fought and died for our country."
Sgt. Christopher Holmes USA
I also disagree with that statement, I believe the greatest honor is to die in battle defending your counrty.
Nightcrawler
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I've never been to war, but I know many people that have. They've told me there is nothing honorable about getting a bullet through your brain, getting your legs blown off on a land mine, getting a bayonet through the guts, or being incinerated by napalm or white phosphorous.
That Americans are willing to make that sacrifice, or rather, RISK death and dismemberment (I don't think many would enlist if they knew 100% for sure that they were going to die or be maimed, but some would even then) because their country calls, is extremely noble and honorable in of itself.
But let us not glorify war. War is ugly. It is brutal. And in many cases throughout history, it's been over practically nothing.
That Americans are willing to make that sacrifice, or rather, RISK death and dismemberment (I don't think many would enlist if they knew 100% for sure that they were going to die or be maimed, but some would even then) because their country calls, is extremely noble and honorable in of itself.
But let us not glorify war. War is ugly. It is brutal. And in many cases throughout history, it's been over practically nothing.
t driver
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by Sisco
Other than awe inspiring, I can't add anthing more.
Other than awe inspiring, I can't add anthing more.
Fair 'n Square
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I thank them for their faithfulness
I add my praise to the "Old Guard" who remain steadfast in their duty. They bring honor to those who serve faithfully in the armed forces, both in the past, and today. Blessings on them all.
I add my praise to the "Old Guard" who remain steadfast in their duty. They bring honor to those who serve faithfully in the armed forces, both in the past, and today. Blessings on them all.
Devonai
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Dangerousdude, you're not going to make a lot of friends around here with your opinions on this matter. You might also notice that the rest of us don't need to make constant use of boldface type to make our points.
The greatest honor is to serve, and serve well.
These men are a shining example of that honor.
The greatest honor is to serve, and serve well.
These men are a shining example of that honor.
Nightcrawler
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And, to add...you don't win wars by dying for your country.
BluesBear
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Honor? To paraphrase the opening scene from "Patton", it is MY belief that my greatest honor would be to make some other poor SOB die for his country.
You can die for your cause if you want to since it's your life, just make sure you don't drag me down with you.
If you never believe a single word from any of my posts believe this....
I am NOT willing to die to protect any member of my family. But I AM willing to kill to protect them. I feel the same for my country. To me THAT is honor.
Am I willing to risk death or injury for them? Of course I am! But I try to keep the odds in my favor.
He who survives and saves the day, lives to save another day.
P.S. THERE is a noun or adjective that refers to a place or position. THEIR is a posessive pronoun, acting as an adjective relating to them or themselves especially as possessors, agents, or objects of an action or thing.
You can die for your cause if you want to since it's your life, just make sure you don't drag me down with you.
If you never believe a single word from any of my posts believe this....
I am NOT willing to die to protect any member of my family. But I AM willing to kill to protect them. I feel the same for my country. To me THAT is honor.
Am I willing to risk death or injury for them? Of course I am! But I try to keep the odds in my favor.
He who survives and saves the day, lives to save another day.
P.S. THERE is a noun or adjective that refers to a place or position. THEIR is a posessive pronoun, acting as an adjective relating to them or themselves especially as possessors, agents, or objects of an action or thing.
dangerousdude
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Dangerousdude, you're not going to make a lot of friends around here with your opinions on this matter. You might also notice that the rest of us don't need to make constant use of boldface type to make our points.
The greatest honor is to serve, and serve well.
These men are a shining example of that honor.
(Enough. --LawDog)
old soldier
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The Old Guard "Semper Fi,Oooh Rah"
Carlos Cabeza
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I had the pleasure of vacationing in D.C. last september. The only day I had for touring Arlington National Cemetery it was pouring rain. I wasn't going to let it stop me because I really wanted to visit and see the many historical icons that are there. I was very inspired by the Honor Guard at the Tomb of the Unknowns. The rain didn't bother them one bit.
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When I was a kid, my grandparents used to live in Silver Springs MD and we'd visit once or twice a year.
Always went to Arlington...always watched the changing of the guard.
As a kid, I'd never seen tears on my Dad's face and it always amazed me to look around and see grown men standing at silent attention for the most part, with tears in their eyes.
Afterwards we'd walk over the grounds and I'd listen to him talk about Robert E. Lee (his hero, my namesake), his older brothers and friends service in WWII, his Korean time, his two younger half brothers service in the Marines in SEA, pausing now and then in silence as a funeral procession came by (Vietnam war 60's era).
I get it now. Didn't then.
Sacred ground.
Adios
Always went to Arlington...always watched the changing of the guard.
As a kid, I'd never seen tears on my Dad's face and it always amazed me to look around and see grown men standing at silent attention for the most part, with tears in their eyes.
Afterwards we'd walk over the grounds and I'd listen to him talk about Robert E. Lee (his hero, my namesake), his older brothers and friends service in WWII, his Korean time, his two younger half brothers service in the Marines in SEA, pausing now and then in silence as a funeral procession came by (Vietnam war 60's era).
I get it now. Didn't then.
Sacred ground.
Adios
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