Gun listed on Armlist fishy message?

[CZ-75BD]

I listed gun on Armlist and recived message from potential buyer.
We agreed on price and he said he will send me cashier check.
Later I recived that message and I beleve it is fishing going on:

Thanks for getting back to me with the address to mail the payment to , i will start working on getting the payment to you and I will as well be responsible for the shipping fees like I said earlier which would be included in the check as well and also there will be extra funds on the cashier check as to avoid delay i will have my pay check from a contract I executed. It will be mailed to you instead of me to avoid delay in the payment as I do not have any account to issue check from right now, so upon the clearance you will deduct the agreed price + shipping and the extra $75 for securing the arm for me while i will make proper arrangement on how you will get the extra funds on the payment to me. He will mail the cashier check out tomorrow morning or next. Let me know if you do not have any problem with this to avoid further misunderstanding

Send me your cell phone that i can reach you on anytime, for better communication.

Hope to hear from you soon.

What do you think of that?

 

[edwardware]

Yup, that's a scam. Either drop it like a hot potato, or play along for your own amusement, but do NOT ship that firearm without cash in hand.

 

[hdwhit]

Red Flag.

It sounds like a variation of this scam: http://www.snopes.com/fraud/sales/cashier.asp

 

[CZ-75BD]

I canceled deal right away, just want to hear forum's opinion.
Thank you for respond

 

[Moparnut]

You should mail them an airsoft gun as soon as you get the money. Lol

 

[GRIZ22]

Did you sell the gun to an African prince?

 

[CZ-75BD]

You should mail them an airsoft gun as soon as you get the money.

I don't think it would be any real money.

 

[Moparnut]

Me neither. I had someone try to do something similar with an atv on Craigslist.

 

[CZ-75BD]

Did you sell the gun to an African prince?

No, actually buyer sent me real FFL copy, and he mentioned he living in Texas, FFL I check online only looks legit, just address slightly different.

 

[GRIZ22]

No, actually buyer sent me real FFL copy, and he mentioned he living in Texas, FFL I check online only looks legit, just address slightly different.

Why doesn't he cash the check and write you one of his own? The "slightly different" address for the FFL doesn't make sense either.

This has all the indications of a scam. I wouldn't touch this deal.

 

[Moparnut]

No, actually buyer sent me real FFL copy, and he mentioned he living in Texas, FFL I check online only looks legit, just address slightly different.

Wonder if you should call the ffl and let him/her know what's going on?

 

[Hanzo581]

Haven't seen it mentioned, but I would forward his info to police. It's an obvious scam but remember, scams like this wouldn't exist if someone wasn't falling for them.

 

[CZ-75BD]

I actually planning to contact that FFL, somehow that "buyer" get copy of that FFL

 

[boatdoc173]

exact chang e only!



it is a scam. it is a fake check. may pas s muster now but in a few weeks or so--you lose!! the bank will take the cash back from you

exact paytment in cash or from a KNOWN bank or other source. anything can be faked BUT it is harder using known sources I think

 

[boatdoc173]

No, actually buyer sent me real FFL copy, and he mentioned he living in Texas, FFL I check online only looks legit, just address slightly different.

the poor ffl guy may not know (or care) about the scammer you are in touch with

run--do not walk

 

[CZ-75BD]

Is it permissible to post FFL dealer name here? I don't have facebook and online info not showing FFL contact email

 

[reddog81]

Contacting the FFL makes sense. I find it odd that he wants the gun sent to a legit FFL but the address is slightly off.... How does the buyer get the gun or is sending the gun a ploy for the extra money?

I think posting the FFL name wouldn't hurt. As long as you aren't saying anything slanderous or mean. It's not like you are naming the FFL as part of they scam. They are just being roped into the situation

 

[GRIZ22]

Keep in mind that when a bank allows you access to the funds (usually 2 or 3 days) is different from when the check actually clears (up to 10-14 days).

 

[CZ-75BD]

Let's make something clear, I'm not planning to accept any check and deposit it, or send gun. Just message I recived sounded fishy to me and I CANCELED DEAL.

 

[bannockburn]

CZ-75BD

Let's make something clear, I'm not planning to accept any check and deposit it, or send gun. Just message I received sounded fishy to me and I CANCELED DEAL.

Good idea because there were just too many red flags going on with how convoluted the would-be buyer made of the transaction.

 

[CZ-75BD]

I had another message looks and sound fishy too, so I just took add off from Armlist.
Hello,

Sorry for my late response.I have a family emergency that i have been attending to.I hope it is still available and also want to know if its in a good condition.I am okay with the price just because i want to get it before any other interested buyer.I am ready to make payment for the shipment...I want you to hold it for me before any other interested buyer.I live in New York but i am in NC for a family emergency


Kindly provide me your full name, Address and your Phone number so that i can send your payment.I will be paying you with Certified check.And the payment delivery will take 2-3 days...As for delivery,i am talking to a FFL so that it can be sent to them.kindly get back to me, as soon as possible, with your name, phone # and mailing address where payment will be sent to, so that i can make an arrangement for the Check.


Note: As soon as you have your money in hand, we can talk about the picking up of the itemI would like you to take the posting off Arm-listing today.

I am willing to provide a FFL address to ship to so that you will be sure i am not going to possess it illegally.


You can text me on (347)-xxx-xxxx,I will reply as soon as i get your text.

I blocked phone number

Best Regards,

Kevin.

 

[Ignition Override]

Armslist involves something Besides a Face-to-Face transaction (?). That's news to me.

I've only done/seen FTF deals. Cash is the only way to buy and the buyer handles the item.
People on gun forums wonder why I don't ever do deals involving shipping a gun.

It's not worth the inconvenience, even with cash in hand. Life's too short for that b.s.
I'm only talking about simple, straightforward transaction. Good luck to you shippers.

 

[Ramone]

Was the FFL New York or NC?

The usual way it works is they send you a bogus check for more than the required amount, and ask you to return the change.

The check is pretty good, but turns out to be bogus, but it usually takes more than a week to bounce. He doesn't even want the product- when you get the check, he'd tell you he's stuck in NC, so hold on to the firearm, but send the change soon, as he's run into some unexpected expenses.

 

[CZ-75BD]

Was the FFL New York or NC?

The usual way it works is they send you a bogus check for more than the required amount, and ask you to return the change.

The check is pretty good, but turns out to be bogus, but it usually takes more than a week to bounce. He doesn't even want the product- when you get the check, he'd tell you he's stuck in NC, so hold on to the firearm, but send the change soon, as he's run into some unexpected expenses.

That "buyer" did not sent any FFL, just mentioned he will "arrange"

 

[Ramone]

It's probably irrelevant, as the scam doesn't count on you actually shipping the product, but I was just wondering- 347 is an NYC brourgh area code, and the restrictions on the Second Amendment add an interesting wrinkle.