Gun Show Hysteria
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The only thing I really look for at gun show's, are reloading components, especially plated bullets. A dealer that frequents the show's I attend, sell's them by the thousand for $100, not bad.
notorious
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I'm going to WalMart for the 308SPs too but there's no WalMart around here.
Lone_Gunman
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The Federal soft points at Wal Mart are actually about $16 a box... so the old man was right...
I just bought some yesterday, so I am confident in the price.
I just bought some yesterday, so I am confident in the price.
notorious
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I have no problem buying at Walmart because none of the profits go to support an union and their wage gouging. Maybe it's just me, but I don't have a problem with Walmart at all and I don't see the issues. Maybe because there's no Walmart where I live that is why I don't really care.
Besides, I'd rather give my $16 to Sam Walton than to some old grumpy guy at the gunshow who is trying to lie and cheat and steal. He also forgot to factor in the parking and entry fee to the gun show so he is still coming out more expensive.
Besides, I'd rather give my $16 to Sam Walton than to some old grumpy guy at the gunshow who is trying to lie and cheat and steal. He also forgot to factor in the parking and entry fee to the gun show so he is still coming out more expensive.
Saddly enough that story is the same most every where. Panic buying.... in full force, there are some influences causing the panic. First, most did not want to have all kinds of money tied up on a "what if" Obama got elected. When it became apparent he was going to get elected, It would take time to get steel, machine it, and get it out. However, between getting mass amounts of material ordered, and the demand coming on, everyone ran into the credit crunch. When the limited supply of product started to run, the panic grew, plus with tough economic times in the forcast, people are worried and buying whatever they can get before they can't get it no more. Parts are being made, production levels are up. But, no one wants to invest in new facilities, machinery, etc, on a possible short term demand. So they are doing the best they can to meet todays demand.
Guyon
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Nice.
Titan6
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I must be getting a special deal on the Federal .308s at our local Walmart in the Blue Ridge Mountains. I bought them yesterday as marked for $12.50 a box. I bought four boxes and they still had about half a dozen left. Guess I will run out tomorrow and grab the rest.
There was not a single reloading component at the whole show. No powder, bullets, tools.... nothing. Don't think I will go back to the show for day two.
There was not a single reloading component at the whole show. No powder, bullets, tools.... nothing. Don't think I will go back to the show for day two.
Good observations by all. The "local" gun shows here in Wyoming may be small, but their "endeavour to persevere" in seperating you from your green is in full swing. The last couple of shows I went to were a complete joke, for maybe 90% of it anyway. The ONLY decent things I saw were a brand new Taurus 1911 for $625 plus the $75 factory rebate (dealer), and a pretty nice Remmy 700BDL .223 for $425 (private). I was very, very, very tempted on the Remmy, but I already have a .223 bolt, so I passed. Kind of regret it now, but that's an old song to all of us "old gun show" junkies. Please note the emphasis on old "gun show", not just the old part Ammo? What a joke. I saw a guy I know, and have done business with several times before, selling Greek M2 30-06 for TWICE the price I can order it from CMP. Twice the AVAILABLE price!!!!! Now, if I couldn't find it, that "might" be one thing, but I can order all I want (or can pay for) from CMP on Monday morning. Or at least I could yesterday anyway. He shrugged like "oh well" and I walked off.
Like many of you, other than wanting a good laugh or afternoon's entertainment, I think I'm done with gun shows for a while. Like another poster said, I comb the classified paper. And when I travel, I keep some "extra" cash on hand, just in case I find a jewel in another local paper. There ARE still some decent deals had from private sellers, just NOT at the gun show rip-offs!!!!!!
Ammo? What a joke. I saw a guy I know, and have done business with several times before, selling Greek M2 30-06 for TWICE the price I can order it from CMP. Twice the AVAILABLE price!!!!! Now, if I couldn't find it, that "might" be one thing, but I can order all I want (or can pay for) from CMP on Monday morning. Or at least I could yesterday anyway. He shrugged like "oh well" and I walked off.Like many of you, other than wanting a good laugh or afternoon's entertainment, I think I'm done with gun shows for a while. Like another poster said, I comb the classified paper. And when I travel, I keep some "extra" cash on hand, just in case I find a jewel in another local paper. There ARE still some decent deals had from private sellers, just NOT at the gun show rip-offs!!!!!!
KimKommando
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If Obama gets his way, there will be unions at WalMart.
Most of the gun shows I have visited lately, including one in TX while I was there (I drove from SA to Austin) are a waste, I am done with it. There is more of an atmosphere of a damn flea market there than a gun show.......
notorious
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Like I said, at California gunshows, there's everything you want as long as you don't want guns or ammo.
ShamWow
Jerkies
Squeegies
No fog wipes
Timeshares
Hot tubs
Knives
Cheap nylon holsters
BDUs
MREs
Fish & tackle
Airsoft
Old magazines & books
and the occasional gun marked up 25-50% over MSRP
ShamWow
Jerkies
Squeegies
No fog wipes
Timeshares
Hot tubs
Knives
Cheap nylon holsters
BDUs
MREs
Fish & tackle
Airsoft
Old magazines & books
and the occasional gun marked up 25-50% over MSRP
The last one I went to in mid December, was loaded up with AR's. Anywhere from 800 to 1200, depending.
There seemed to be plenty of handguns- some were overpriced, as was the ammo. The ammo was going pretty good.
The hunting rifles, new or used, were priced fairly good.
I'll still go to them- but I go more to wander around, for the entertainment value. I don't have any expectations of finding deals anymore.
But ya never know...
There seemed to be plenty of handguns- some were overpriced, as was the ammo. The ammo was going pretty good.
The hunting rifles, new or used, were priced fairly good.
I'll still go to them- but I go more to wander around, for the entertainment value. I don't have any expectations of finding deals anymore.
But ya never know...
notorious
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That's only because you live in a free country that allows ARs. We have a different set of laws in our country of California.
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Yes, but look at the beautiful country you live in!
From what I've learned, it hardly gets cold there and it is always like summer - although I don't think I would ever get used to the idea of having earthquakes or large fires.
From what I've learned, it hardly gets cold there and it is always like summer - although I don't think I would ever get used to the idea of having earthquakes or large fires.
notorious
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It's not cold? We've been getting down into the mid 30s at night here. I think I saw 36F a few times on the thermometer. Not to mention the freezing winds and rainstorms for the last week. It has been absolutely miserable. Then we have 95F minimum summers where you sweat the minute you walk outside. At least it's dry, right?
Earthquakes I don't mind. My gunsafe can survive fires and quakes, but not floods or tornados.
It has its good points. At least I don't have to get permission to buy a gun like some jurisdictions, but they do put a lot of obstacles in your way like the safety test and manipulation demonstration and the gunlock forced buying and the one gun a month thing but all things considered, if you don't want cool guns like ARs and AKs, the rest of the rules are not so bad.
Earthquakes I don't mind. My gunsafe can survive fires and quakes, but not floods or tornados.
It has its good points. At least I don't have to get permission to buy a gun like some jurisdictions, but they do put a lot of obstacles in your way like the safety test and manipulation demonstration and the gunlock forced buying and the one gun a month thing but all things considered, if you don't want cool guns like ARs and AKs, the rest of the rules are not so bad.
Thin Black Line
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Doubtful. However, I do believe this gun dealer must teach statistics and
population demographics to real estate appraisers and hedge fund managers
on the side.
On the plus side for him, the gun business has taken over paying his rent now.
qajaq59
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I'm a people watcher from back in the days when I worked in NYC, so I love the gun shows. I don't buy anything though because I can get a better deal elsewhere. But watching some of the characters is definitely worth the $5 that it costs me to get in.
notorious
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The gun buying frenzy has died down a bit here in CA since the first week after the day freedom died.
During that first week, there were close to 2,000 guns sold a day. Now, it barely breaks a few hundred again. How quickly we forget.
During that first week, there were close to 2,000 guns sold a day. Now, it barely breaks a few hundred again. How quickly we forget.
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I fully agree with all that has been said about gun shows. I have been to only two and came out 3X disappointed.
Now for the only good I can foresee. The panic buying, new gun owners, older gun owners that have been revived and anything else I didn't mention means higher numbers of gun aware people.
Whether right or wrong, there is strength in numbers and the more people we can get into gun ownership or just be aware of the pitfalls of having restrictions placed on it, the better.
Some may even be good writers and get through to a congress person or two when it comes time for their vote.
I personally wanted an AR for a long time before this panic started but kept putting it off. In October, I saw the graffiti on the wall and pulled the trigger so to speak and accepted the wait for a Rock River. It came in 8 weeks. If I waited a few more weeks to place the order, it would have taken 12-16 weeks to get. The panic had already begun.
Of course the bad side to this is the increased prices and lack of availability on everything gun related. I haven't been able to make a complete order from a large supplier like Midway without something being out of stock.
Hopefully things will pan out in the future and prices will settle down. If I suggested 6 months ago that gas would be back down to about a buck fifty a gallon today, most would say I have been doing too much reloading and the lead finally got to me.
Now for the only good I can foresee. The panic buying, new gun owners, older gun owners that have been revived and anything else I didn't mention means higher numbers of gun aware people.
Whether right or wrong, there is strength in numbers and the more people we can get into gun ownership or just be aware of the pitfalls of having restrictions placed on it, the better.
Some may even be good writers and get through to a congress person or two when it comes time for their vote.
I personally wanted an AR for a long time before this panic started but kept putting it off. In October, I saw the graffiti on the wall and pulled the trigger so to speak and accepted the wait for a Rock River. It came in 8 weeks. If I waited a few more weeks to place the order, it would have taken 12-16 weeks to get. The panic had already begun.
Of course the bad side to this is the increased prices and lack of availability on everything gun related. I haven't been able to make a complete order from a large supplier like Midway without something being out of stock.
Hopefully things will pan out in the future and prices will settle down. If I suggested 6 months ago that gas would be back down to about a buck fifty a gallon today, most would say I have been doing too much reloading and the lead finally got to me.
Double Naught Spy
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Yep, you must be getting a special deal. They are $16 a box here too.
Jon Coppenbarger
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I went to a show on saturday and found a few things. No ammo deals for me this time. did buy a really nice colt series 70 goverment for $700. and from another dealer picked up a ww2 45 mag for my collection and a nice set of 1911a1 grips both for $25.
Oh and one more deal was a new in the white colt usgi national match slide from the 50,s or 60,s plus a new colt usgi nm barrel for $150 for the pair.
That makes 4 colt 1911,s in the last month from shows and the $700 was the one I spent the most on. one was a series 80 stainless enhanced, a 1943 a1 and a 1955 commercial.
Also picked up a couple of S&W revolvers. a pre model 17 for $250 and a 17-3 for $350.
Bought all my ar stuff over the years so I do not need the black rifle items.
two more shows the next two weekends so I hope I find something else also.
Oh and one more deal was a new in the white colt usgi national match slide from the 50,s or 60,s plus a new colt usgi nm barrel for $150 for the pair.
That makes 4 colt 1911,s in the last month from shows and the $700 was the one I spent the most on. one was a series 80 stainless enhanced, a 1943 a1 and a 1955 commercial.
Also picked up a couple of S&W revolvers. a pre model 17 for $250 and a 17-3 for $350.
Bought all my ar stuff over the years so I do not need the black rifle items.
two more shows the next two weekends so I hope I find something else also.
Thin Black Line
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EBRs and Flowers?
(Not to be confused with Guns and Roses).
Do we have a little mania going on right now similar to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
(Not to be confused with Guns and Roses).
Do we have a little mania going on right now similar to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
TBL wrote:
While interesting, that was a financial speculation bubble-- one of MANY in the history of the markets. These include, but are not limited to, the Railroad bubble, the Radio bubble, the Dot-Com bubble, and the Housing Market.
The major difference as it pertains to us is that you can still get all of the above. I truly hope that it will be the case with this run.
-- John
While interesting, that was a financial speculation bubble-- one of MANY in the history of the markets. These include, but are not limited to, the Railroad bubble, the Radio bubble, the Dot-Com bubble, and the Housing Market.
The major difference as it pertains to us is that you can still get all of the above. I truly hope that it will be the case with this run.
-- John
FoMoGo
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Sounds like you were in Fishersville for the show...
So was I
I got a couple of deals tho.
Picked up a $10 bill laying on the floor at the ticket counter.
Picked up a 2 mag carrier for my 1911 with mags... one a chip McCormick 8 round and an extra colt mag... for $30.
Last weekend in Salem picked up a CCW purse for my wife at half off list on the websites and ads in the magazines.
Picked up a 50 round unopened box of winchester primed .45 auto rim for $5.
And I got to fondle a lotta guns that I didnt pay for.
Jim
So was I
I got a couple of deals tho.
Picked up a $10 bill laying on the floor at the ticket counter.
Picked up a 2 mag carrier for my 1911 with mags... one a chip McCormick 8 round and an extra colt mag... for $30.
Last weekend in Salem picked up a CCW purse for my wife at half off list on the websites and ads in the magazines.
Picked up a 50 round unopened box of winchester primed .45 auto rim for $5.
And I got to fondle a lotta guns that I didnt pay for.
Jim
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