Halo
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I don't know, someone unfamiliar with guns might have thought "this is a perfect reason for a woman to buy a gun!" People volunteer unnecessary information and stupid cover stories all the time, you can see it on any episode of "Cops".
I don't know, someone unfamiliar with guns might have thought "this is a perfect reason for a woman to buy a gun!" People volunteer unnecessary information and stupid cover stories all the time
Well after reading this I must ask what the
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what part of shall not be infringed do you not understand
folks think of this? This is my exact arguement for some gun control is necessary.................
I am very familiar with guns and I thought that it sounded like a perfectly good reason!Posted by Halo:
I don't know, someone unfamiliar with guns might have thought "this is a perfect reason for a woman to buy a gun!"
AND NOW IT GETS WEIRD!
I am very familiar with guns and I thought that it sounded like a perfectly good reason!
What if a woman came in and stated that she wanted a gun because her ex used to put her in the hospital once a month and now he is stalking her and she may have to defend herself?
Do you think that he still should have refused to sell?
But she didn't say that she was going to go home and shoot him because he got physical with her a few days prior... She said that he is getting rough and that she may have to shoot him (i.e. defend herself).Posted by FieroCDSP:
In the OP, we have a woman that could possibly be a victim of domestic abuse, still unsure of whether she can take a final step of defending herself, but she blew it with stating her (feigned or otherwise) intent to kill or otherwise assault him. To sell to her would certainly be in the way of "sell to an individual indicating intent to do harm."
In your example, a woman who could be the victim of domestic abuse, who is already divorced/separated is the subject of a continued crime, i.e. stalking. She wants the gun to defend herself.
The difference between the two is the intent. The first implies action, the second, reaction. As we all know, intent is a good portion of what will keep you as an actor either in or out of jail.
What if a woman came in and stated that she wanted a gun because her ex used to put her in the hospital once a month and now he is stalking her and she may have to defend herself?
Do you think that he still should have refused to sell?
Was is all about semantics? or could you tell something was off?
Very interesting. I once witnessed a Straw Purchase turned away. This attractive woman comes in on a cell phone and starts talking into it: Which gun? Which case? Ok. She hangs up the phone and asks a salesperson to see "That gun, right there". The manager asks her her name and then asks to see some ID. She hands him her Drivers License, and he copies down her information. Then he hands it back to her and states that her husband had been in earlier that day and was turned down on the background check and he was refusing a sale to her because it was a straw purchase. He then gave her a choice to stick around and wait for the police, or leave. She left, he called the cops and gave them the information he had written down.
But she didn't say that she was going to go home and shoot him because he got physical with her a few days prior... She said that he is getting rough and that she may have to shoot him (i.e. defend herself).
and this woman cuts in with "well I really need something in case I have to shoot my husband".
Wuchak:
If my wife was taking medicine that kept her from not wanting to kill me I would make REAL sure she took it as directed.
Now that I think of it maybe I should find out what she was on and slip some in my wife's coffee as a precautionary measure.
Actually, yes. An inexperienced, untrained person under considerable emotional duress could represent significant liability for the shop that sells her one. It sounds cold, but it's true.What if a woman came in and stated that she wanted a gun because her ex used to put her in the hospital once a month and now he is stalking her and she may have to defend herself?
Do you think that he still should have refused to sell?
I once witnessed a Straw Purchase turned away. This attractive woman comes in on a cell phone and starts talking into it: Which gun? Which case? Ok. She hangs up the phone and asks a salesperson to see "That gun, right there"
I am very familiar with guns and I thought that it sounded like a perfectly good reason!
So he starts telling her about the CZ line and so forth
It was all so weird at the time but the more I think about it the more the guy's unconcern seems really off kilter.