Hyunchback
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This isn't going to help things out. I'm guessing the local TV stations will all be claiming Denver is awash in ultra cheap firearms and the local newspaper (it really is only one paper with two mouths, both lying) will also be demanding "something" be done.
And expect the usual cretins in power to call for the overturn of Shall Issue, expanding the Denver ban on assault weapons to the entire state and Boulder to try to secede from the state in order to declare themselves off limits to those who have guns.
Not one of them is willing to answer the question "What would have happened if one or more of the workers inside were permitted to carry on the job?"
You can bet that Safeway had a policy of "no weapons, even if you are legally allowed to" on their property for employees. Since the workers needed their jobs they went unarmed.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060626/D8IFJV2O1.html
Bet 1 - The shooter was not a CCW holder. Possibly wasn't legally allowed to own a firearm.
Bet 2 - The Safeway corporate insisted that their employees go unarmed at work. (Yeah, the guy who is intent on showing up and shooting everyone is really going to pause and think about it before carrying onto company property, right? Those rules in the employee handbook are like unbreakable, even for the mentally unstable.)
Bet 3 - The Democrat running for Governor will declare an intent to overturn Shall Issue. Side Bet - Bob Beauprez, still trying to play both sides, won't bring up the fact that if the people in the building had been allowed their rights under law and exercised them this guy probably would have been stopped a lot sooner. Current governor Owens won't bring it up, either.
And expect the usual cretins in power to call for the overturn of Shall Issue, expanding the Denver ban on assault weapons to the entire state and Boulder to try to secede from the state in order to declare themselves off limits to those who have guns.
Not one of them is willing to answer the question "What would have happened if one or more of the workers inside were permitted to carry on the job?"
You can bet that Safeway had a policy of "no weapons, even if you are legally allowed to" on their property for employees. Since the workers needed their jobs they went unarmed.
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20060626/D8IFJV2O1.html
DENVER (AP) - A gunman opened fire Sunday afternoon at a Safeway Inc. distribution center, killing one person and injuring five others, including a police officer, before the shooter was killed.
Several fires were burning inside the estimated 1.3 million-square-foot building near Interstate 70, said Denver Fire Chief Larry Trujillo.
Safeway worker Jesus Lopez told KMGH-TV he was about 20 feet away from the gunman. "He was just shooting and lighting fires. He wanted to turn the building on fire," Lopez said. "I just ran. Everybody just ran out."
About 60 people who evacuated the building were waiting in two buses to hear whether they could re-enter the building, Regional Transportation District spokesman Scott Reed said.
"I've never been through anything like this," said meat department employee Scott Stroman, in his second week on the job. He said the gunshots sounded like faint popping sounds from another part of the building.
"Other employees came running up and said 'hey, let's get out of here,'" Stroman said. Officers were already on the scene when he got outside.
Two shooting victims were in critical condition; two were in serious condition, including the officer shot in the leg by the suspect; and one was in fair condition, police spokesman Sonny Jackson said. None of the victims was identified.
Jackson could not immediately confirm whether officers shot the suspect or whether he committed suicide. He also would not identify the suspect or say whether he worked for Safeway.
"We're not going to speculate who shot who at this time," Jackson said. "We are still clearing the building. We are still making sure everyone is safe."
Police believed the shooter was the only suspect but were treating the scene as if there could be others.
Safeway officials did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment.
Bet 1 - The shooter was not a CCW holder. Possibly wasn't legally allowed to own a firearm.
Bet 2 - The Safeway corporate insisted that their employees go unarmed at work. (Yeah, the guy who is intent on showing up and shooting everyone is really going to pause and think about it before carrying onto company property, right? Those rules in the employee handbook are like unbreakable, even for the mentally unstable.)
Bet 3 - The Democrat running for Governor will declare an intent to overturn Shall Issue. Side Bet - Bob Beauprez, still trying to play both sides, won't bring up the fact that if the people in the building had been allowed their rights under law and exercised them this guy probably would have been stopped a lot sooner. Current governor Owens won't bring it up, either.