Guns and alchohol consumption - Poll

Your level of tolerance Firearms and alchohol use

  • Never a drop, it's disgusting behavior I don't condone.

    Votes: 388 67.4%

  • My partner has a couple beers, no problem.

    Votes: 27 4.7%

  • My partner and I shoot after a few beers, no big deal.

    Votes: 65 11.3%

  • I'll have a few beers alone sometimes before shooting.

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • I don't drink, none of my friends do, never have, never will, period.

    Votes: 56 9.7%

  • The guys get together after several beers and sometimes shoot.

    Votes: 22 3.8%

  • I've been legally "drunk" and fired a gun.

    Votes: 36 6.3%

  • I've fired a gun on a mixture of alchohol and some drugs.

    Votes: 25 4.3%
  • Total voters
    576
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I never drink and do anything.

I'm only 27, but I spent 7 of those years having to wake up and call friends to find out what I had done the past few days; or pawn more of my stuff for vodka; or wonder why my bed was wet; or call the police to ask if they look for lost cars as well as stolen ones. I was probably sober for less than 2 months all told in that 7 years. The worst part was all the voting Democrat.

I haven't drank since my two year old was born, and I haven't had a cigarette since January 1 2007.
 
Never had a big taste for alcohol, which is probably a good thing since alcoholism runs in both sides of my family. Like, every branch from here back to that mountain with the tablets.

But if I do have a drink, I don't lock the kitchen knives, firearms, car keys, and potential poisons in the bathroom, after I've taped foam to all the sharp edges of the world. In fact, I've got about three jiggers worth of the hard stuff in me right now. I've never done anything stupid under the influence(of alcohol, don't give me powerful pain killers). I don't have any problem with firearms and alcohol being mixed, if everyone understands their limits. Some people don't. Some people are also dangerous just by virtue of drawing in air.

That would actually be an increase.
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Not to mention that .8 would be a few hundredths past death for most people.
 
I could not really vote in this poll because it is a little vague. A "few beers" could mean different things to different people. Now if one of the choices was a couple of beers or 1 or 2 beers, then that is where I could have voted at either a range or area with proper backstop.
 
I don't see an option for "I'll occasionally have a beer after I'm done shooting."

I have never even handled one of my firearms while under the influence of alcohol. After I'm done and the toys are all put away maybe.
 
Your level of tolerance Firearms and alchohol use Never a drop, it's disgusting behavior I don't condone.

My partner has a couple beers, no problem.

My partner and I shoot after a few beers, no big deal.

I'll have a few beers alone sometimes before shooting.

I don't drink, none of my friends do, never have, never will, period.

The guys get together after several beers and sometimes shoot.

I've been legally "drunk" and fired a gun.

I've fired a gun on a mixture of alchohol and some drugs.
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None of the above.

I do not drink, but don't mind others who do.

When I did drink, I would never drink around firearms, as well as other activities that required one to be fully alert.
I will not tolerate folks who do, because it is dumb. (Well, Real Dumb)
 
Personally, I take every opportunity I find to get roaring, falling-down drunk while wearing/carrying all of the firearms I can manage.

I make it a point to wave them especially aggressively at women and little children and other assorted helpless beings.

It just makes me feel so gooooood.

I love polls like this, I do.

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I am regarded as un cool and miserable because I don't drink.People in the UK drink to excess,never seen or noticed drinking around firearms though.
 
Selena...

You have your beliefs and I have mine. You're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.

However, your post only addresses alcohol. What about people who take Prozac or prescription pain meds? The effects on the human body are much the same as alcohol. Should these people be denied the right to self defense?

Biker
 
I have never shot under the influence of alcohol. I have however shot at 300 yards under the influence of prescription cough/flu syrup. :D
 
"Your level of tolerance Firearms and alchohol use"

Available option 1 - Never a drop, it's disgusting behavior I don't condone.

"None of the above.

I do not drink, but don't mind others who do."

This poll is about drinking and firearms, not what you or your friends do when firearms are not present. That is off topic.

"When I did drink, I would never drink around firearms, as well as other activities that required one to be fully alert.
I will not tolerate folks who do, because it is dumb. (Well, Real Dumb)"

Sounds to me like the bolden option above applies to you. Why did you feel it necessary to type "None of the above" when the first entry clearly applies to you?
 
Regardless, I can't vote. I drink and don't consider it a disgusting behavior, but not while I'm shooting or while I have a gun out. The poll skips that option.
 
The poll question:

"Your level of tolerance Firearms and alchohol use"

Available option 1 - Never a drop, it's disgusting behavior I don't condone.
 
Ed Ames, Great Post!!! You said what I what thinking so much better than I could have.

The people who posted that one should never even touch a firearm if they've had so much as one drink are pretty extreme IMO. Does that mean that if I go to a restaurant, have 2-3 beers in an hour or more, then get confronted by a thug in the parking lot, I should just give him my wallet and let him rape my wife? I don't think so. Just because I have a few beers, I don't forfeit my right to self-protection, nor do I endanger your safety.

While I don't usually drink before going to the range, I downed a few beers before a range trip once, for the sake of science. Here's some amazing news!!! I didn't wave the guns around and threaten anyone who looked at me. I didn't try to start up a game of Russian Roulette with my Hi Power. I didn't break any of the 4 Rules. I didn't shoot wildly at anything that moved. I didn't suddenly turn into some stumbling, irresponsible, danger to society, no more than the act of carrying a gun turns one into a psychopathic killer.

I shot a little bit worse than usual but I put 10/13 into CoM of my target at 10 yds with my Hi Power. The other 3 were head shots. I shot a 20 round slowfire prone stage with my AR. I usually shoot high 180s to low 190s in this stage in matches. I shot low 180s that day.

Yes, excessive amounts of alcohol will make you lose control, nobody's arguing that, except for one thing I can think of, nothing is good in excess. But a few drinks in moderation won't turn you into a raving idiot, unless you have a raving idiot already inside, waiting for an excuse to get out.
 
Should you be drinking a couple of beers and driving to the range.To experiment with alchohol,driving,or shooting is immature.
 
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I'm with Biker and Ed Ames on this one! The all or nothing attitude gets you all or nothing. Not having ammo in the same room while you are cleaning the gun sounds like the ammo will magically insert itself into the chamber then fire magically. Hmmmmmm.......... Sounds like the anti's argument, doesn't it!!!!! :banghead: The illogical logic!!!:fire:
 
Alcohol and Firearms...

....don't mix PERIOD! If I'm going to drink, then I don't handle a gun/go to the range/CCW etc.

In fact, my mom is eyeing me stangely lately when I take her out to dinner and just have an ice tea. :scrutiny:
 
Hi Biker,

You have your beliefs and I have mine. You're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours.
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Agreed, and I will defend your right to be as wrong as you care to be. :)


However, your post only addresses alcohol. What about people who take Prozac or prescription pain meds?
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Any instrument capable of causing deadly damage requires an operator that is 100%. From Meth or steroids that tend to increase aggression to cough syrup that will effect reaction time and judgment.

As for Prozac- would someone suffering depression bad enough to be prescribed medicine care enough to defend themselves?

Selena
 
As SuperNaut pointed out, the "requires 100%" concept is absurd. Who decides what is 100%? "Oh, you have the flu? You should go to prison for 5 years if you handle a gun!" How is that right?

Intoxication is not an absolute. Neither is perfect health.

To say that a woman who has been to a bar or family picnic where alcohol is served, and is attacked by a rapist, and uses a gun to defend herself, MUST be shown "zero tolerance" and thrown in prison for 5 years "no exceptions" seems to show a sort of disproportionality that borders on religious fanaticism. It's really no different than the muslims who throw women in prison for reporting rapes. It's a mistake based on a... well, a religious conviction rather than any rational position. Within that sect of Islamic Faith throwing a rape victim in prison is compassionate because you aren't stoning her. Within that sect of tetotalist religion throwing a drunk woman who avoided rape in prison for 5 years is equally compassionate. In the real world both views are wrong.


Anyone who thinks "zero tolerance" is the answer hasn't thought the question through. Doesn't matter what the question is...
 
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