Guns to make you cringe

[GunnyUSMC]

After reading the topic; Can you identify all of these guns.; posted by @Aim1 , the other day. It got me thinking about all of the evidence guns I got to play with over the years.
Evidence guns is a general term that I use because, all of the guns went through the Evidence Room, which is actually a wear house, and can labeled as evidence in a crime, found property, stolen or a number of others.
These guns come in all types of conditions. From like new, to used and abused.
Here are a few that are on the used and abused side.
A Ruger P85. Look closely at she SN#



Here’s an HK with some fancy slide cuts.


Here’s a Glock 19 that actually took a bullet for someone. And yes, the gun still functioned after being hit with a 9mm bullet. But the guy that had the gun took the other rounds and was no longer functional.

You want to talk about backyard gunsmithing? This well educated individual lost the take down pin on his AR. No problem. He just used a shoelace to fix it, and it worked.


And yes, that is a flashlight mounted on top.


But the sad part is what happens to most guns that end up in Evidence rooms.


I hope that y’all enjoyed these pictures. I have a few more.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Sadly, I've seen much worse home-gunsmithing jobs than that HK haha

 

[wayneinFL]

Is there a way to recover a serial number after it's stamped over like that?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Is there a way to recover a serial number after it's stamped over like that?

Yes. The surface has to be removed with a grinder and then acid is applied. The metal that has been compressed will show up darker.

 

[DustyGmt]

Thanks for this I enjoyed it right up til the end. It's too bad they can't auction off some of these evidence guns..... although I would hate for an error in paperwork to create a misunderstanding......

 

[theotherwaldo]

-Or at least break them down for parts and only scrap the receivers and illegal components... .

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Thanks for this I enjoyed it right up til the end. It's too bad they can't auction off some of these evidence guns..... although I would hate for an error in paperwork to create a misunderstanding......

To many departments are worried about liability. My department was looking for a company that would destroy parts of the guns and part out the rest, but as far as I know, they are still cutting them up.

 

[1KPerDay]

-Or at least break them down for parts and only scrap the receivers and illegal components... .

They do. Several gunbroker sellers sell parts kits or parts retrieved from evidence guns. The receivers are always cut and missing.

 

[21H40]

That Glock! What happened to the sights?

Oh, right. Cool guys don't use them

 

[Terry G]

Used guns Federal DOJ style.

 

[AlexanderA]

It's too bad they can't auction off some of these evidence guns..

Nothing there that I would care to add to my collection.

 

[zdc1775]

You want to talk about backyard gunsmithing? This well educated individual lost the take down pin on his AR. No problem. He just used a shoelace to fix it, and it worked.
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You know that saying about "if it's dumb but it works it's not dumb." Not sure that applies here.

 

[Capybara]

Very interesting stuff. Sure, would love to see more if you can post. Criminals aren't always the best with guns, are they?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Here’s a few more.




The story behind this one is, the guy used it to rod a gas station for a total of $18 and some change. He threw the gun into an overgrown empty lot. The gun was recovered a few months later and the mag was loaded with 9x19 ammo.


He wouldn’t have had to rob the gas station it he had known what the gun was worth.


Sometimes they needed a little cleaner before they could be fired.


Custom rattle can job.


Sometimes there are just no words that will do.


Sometimes you just stop asking questions.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

You know that saying about "if it's dumb but it works it's not dumb." Not sure that applies here.

Look really close at the hole where the takedown pin goes. What do you see?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Very interesting stuff. Sure, would love to see more if you can post. Criminals aren't always the best with guns, are they?

I have a bunch of old post about the things I did while working in the crime lab.

 

[12Bravo20]

Look really close at the hole where the takedown pin goes. What do you see?

Its kind of hard to see but it almost looks like he stuck a buffer retaining pin in the take down pin hole.

 

[Ks5shooter]

Im gonna need a tetanus shot to keep reading this thread!

 

[OrangeCat]

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1) is that suppressor made of copper pipe?

2) did it even sort of work?

 

[bannockburn]

Gunny

I don't know which one I liked more: the orange slide S&W SDVE (must have been really concerned about setting it down somewhere and not being able to find it later); or else the single shot H&R with the sawed-off barrel and stock
(looks great with the kitchen drawer contact paper for camouflage, along with the taped-on flashlight).

 

[usaral63]

Course you know that shoelace job converted it to a fully semi automatic shoulder thingy that goes up assault weapon, right?

 

[DukeConnor]

I could look at these pics all day.

 

[zdc1775]

Look really close at the hole where the takedown pin goes. What do you see?

Its kind of hard to see but it almost looks like he stuck a buffer retaining pin in the take down pin hole.

That's what I am thinking it is too. And since I also noticed how the end plate is turned sideways and the castle nut is really backed off, I'm going to assume that the buffer is basically just floating against the BCG.

Guessing that the department didn't do that tear down.

 

[earlthegoat2]

I don’t as able to view a sampling of seized guns at the MI State Police crime lab several years ago.

There were plenty of improvised weapons and a few slick modifications as shown above but there were also perfect condition Thompsons, BARs, a Maxim machine gun, M-79 grenade launcher, a few M16A1s and a Lewis machine gun. That was just to name a few.

It was a drool worthy experience to say the least. The LT of the firearms examiners is the most knowledgeable person I have ever met when it came to firearms.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Its kind of hard to see but it almost looks like he stuck a buffer retaining pin in the take down pin hole.

Yes, it’s the buffer retaining pin.

That's what I am thinking it is too. And since I also noticed how the end plate is turned sideways and the castle nut is really backed off, I'm going to assume that the buffer is basically just floating against the BCG.

Guessing that the department didn't do that tear down.

There are a lot of AR’s that are sold, that don’t have the castle nut staked.
There are also a lot of people that don’t stake them on there own builds.