IMTHDUKE
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What I am really wondering here: Has any of the posters who wanna take down a brownie with a handgun, actually faced one in that situation? Not me that's for sure
Handgun for protection from a grizzly?
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What I am really wondering here: Has any of the posters who wanna take down a brownie with a handgun, actually faced one in that situation? Not me that's for sure
arizonaguide
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you've got to ask yourself one question...
I know what you're thinking, Bear: 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' But to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I've kinda lost track myself.
But being this is a .44 Magnum, ("the most powerful handgun in ALL-the-whole-great-big-wide-every-bit-of-the-whole-darn world"), and
would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?'
Well...do ya, BEAR?
Heard WAAAAAAY too much, since the 1970's, in the bar at Anywhere, Alaska.
Or to put it more correctly:
I know what you're thinking, Bear: 'Did he fire six shots or only five?' But to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I've kinda lost track myself.
But being this is a .44 Magnum, ("the most powerful handgun in ALL-the-whole-great-big-wide-every-bit-of-the-whole-darn world"), and
would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?'
Well...do ya, BEAR?
Heard WAAAAAAY too much, since the 1970's, in the bar at Anywhere, Alaska.
Or to put it more correctly:
Well put! (stay safe, AKCOP!)
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arizonaguide
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Sarah would laugh at a Handgun for a Bear, as being foolish. She grew up in Alaska. She knows better!
She wouldn't even try that on Moose.
Maybe a goat or a tame sheep, or perhaps a "small" donkey......Something less dangerous.
http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5108377&postcount=8
She wouldn't even try that on Moose.
Maybe a goat or a tame sheep, or perhaps a "small" donkey......Something less dangerous.
http://thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=5108377&postcount=8
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arizonaguide , give it a brake. You just don't know when to quit. :banghead:
Nothing like beating a dead horse........ You are more annoying than you could ever imagine.
Next you going to tell us you know Sara Palin personally.....
Nothing like beating a dead horse........ You are more annoying than you could ever imagine.
Next you going to tell us you know Sara Palin personally.....
arizonaguide
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Every Alaskan knows...
I believe every Alaskan knows that's spelled with an "h".
Sara"h"!
No, don't know her personally...but we grew up the same time up there.
I never had a desire to be a politician! (now my buddy Mike, that's another story!)
I believe every Alaskan knows that's spelled with an "h".
Sara"h"!
No, don't know her personally...but we grew up the same time up there.
I never had a desire to be a politician! (now my buddy Mike, that's another story!)
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arizonaguide
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Redhawk, I have been giving you a hard time.
It has been kinda fun teasing you Bro!
I really am just giving you a hard time, while at the same time hoping to get a message across. (save one Person/Bear).
I do consider you a "HighRoad" Brother...and you must be a decent person if you're here.
And if you've done some Arctic Circle work, then ya can't be all bad.
Now, handguns for Dead Horses...well, maybe.
Try it on a small donkey first.
It has been kinda fun teasing you Bro!
I really am just giving you a hard time, while at the same time hoping to get a message across. (save one Person/Bear).
I do consider you a "HighRoad" Brother...and you must be a decent person if you're here.
And if you've done some Arctic Circle work, then ya can't be all bad.
Now, handguns for Dead Horses...well, maybe.
Try it on a small donkey first.
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I am having just as much fun myself.
But I am a long time handgun hunter over 26 actual years handgun hunting, and I am confident in my personal abilities with my handguns.
I am going back on my 6th black bear hunt to Maine next year, hopefully I will get a chance at a 600 lb plus black bear that is in the area I will be hunting. And yes I will be using my little handgun.
I would hate to see what you think of a bow for big bear...
But I am a long time handgun hunter over 26 actual years handgun hunting, and I am confident in my personal abilities with my handguns.
I am going back on my 6th black bear hunt to Maine next year, hopefully I will get a chance at a 600 lb plus black bear that is in the area I will be hunting. And yes I will be using my little handgun.
I would hate to see what you think of a bow for big bear...
arizonaguide
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I have just purchased the Bow's for Bears video from Cabella's to try to pick up some good wildlife Photography tips...but NOT me!
I have my 12ga slung over my shoulder for Photo trips...(Protection from Bears, Cougers, and angry National Forest Pot Growers I keep reading about, that are taking over the Parks and National Forests!).
But, I did hear about one of the guys that was a "specialist" in destroying wounded bears PREFERED to go into the alder patch with a compound bow, because of the penetration. I DO wonder what the energy-per-grain is on an arrow...I'm sure it's surprisingly powerfull.
Sure wish I could remember his name. Cuz, I want to learn more about THAT crazy dude!
(if anyone's heard about that guy...send me his name...I want to hear his stories!)
Cheers, Bro! I was wondering if you were playing "devil's advocate" a little. Stay safe over there in the Deleware!
And on that Maine trip. (bring some pepperspray for your pocket, okay, just humor me.)
I have my 12ga slung over my shoulder for Photo trips...(Protection from Bears, Cougers, and angry National Forest Pot Growers I keep reading about, that are taking over the Parks and National Forests!).
But, I did hear about one of the guys that was a "specialist" in destroying wounded bears PREFERED to go into the alder patch with a compound bow, because of the penetration. I DO wonder what the energy-per-grain is on an arrow...I'm sure it's surprisingly powerfull.
Sure wish I could remember his name. Cuz, I want to learn more about THAT crazy dude!
(if anyone's heard about that guy...send me his name...I want to hear his stories!)
Cheers, Bro! I was wondering if you were playing "devil's advocate" a little. Stay safe over there in the Deleware!
And on that Maine trip. (bring some pepperspray for your pocket, okay, just humor me.)
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and if you happen to have 3-4 Claymore mines on the end of a big stick...I believe THAT qualifies as a shotgun!! Think I'll try a 75mm recoiless rifle for a guaranteed one shot stop!
arizonaguide
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This thread got me actually thinking about a pepperspray 12ga round.
Kinda like those one's the Cops use.
I think I'll research into that a little.
It's funny, but like I tell my Dad (usually in the garage):
Neither one of us is really smart...but between the TWO us we make One Genius!
This awsome forum is a lot like that.
I was pretty dang lucky to grow up with the folks I did in Alaska.
It did cripple my golf game a little, but...hey, always tradeoffs!
Here's a pretty cool pic of Mom and Dad in 1950's Alaska
Dad always carried a .300 Weatherby for Bear...or even just fishing. ALWAYS!
Kinda like those one's the Cops use.
I think I'll research into that a little.
It's funny, but like I tell my Dad (usually in the garage):
Neither one of us is really smart...but between the TWO us we make One Genius!
This awsome forum is a lot like that.
I was pretty dang lucky to grow up with the folks I did in Alaska.
It did cripple my golf game a little, but...hey, always tradeoffs!
Here's a pretty cool pic of Mom and Dad in 1950's Alaska
Dad always carried a .300 Weatherby for Bear...or even just fishing. ALWAYS!
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I would use no less than .41 Magnum.
arizonaguide
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I guess after all...it boils down to the SIZE and ANGER of the Bear.
.300 for me...on ALL bears...if I get a chance to choose.
12ga/pepperspray in the bush with me always.
.300 for me...on ALL bears...if I get a chance to choose.
12ga/pepperspray in the bush with me always.
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This is an interesting topic.. I always wonder what I will do when I venture into Grizzly country. Actually there is a forest about 4 hours from where I live that is thriving with grizzly bears and bald eagles.
I can tell you, after being tracked down by a 300lb black bear, there is no way by God's name, that I am going to face a 1000lb pissed off grizzly bear with a gun. Grizzlies are smarter and more fierce than black bears. If I had to face even a large black bear, I like to have a hefty gun that can blow a very big hole in him. Remember a grizzly bear is not stupid. They know you have a gun and will try to dodge your bullets. They charge in a way that makes them very hard to hit and will try to wrestle your a** to the floor before ripping open your skull with their giant teeth.
Heres a video about a hunter armed with a big gun and still couldn't win a fight against a grizzly bear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriOIvvl2yI
Bears have been known to win many battles against hunters..
Oh yeah for the person who thinks he would have no fear using a handgun to save his life, watch the video at 1:17 and tell me how you would feel in this situation. Lucky for this guy, the bear decided to retreat at the sound of the gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw
Heres what happens if you fail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ako1n28iM&feature=related
ONCE AGAIN.. I don't want to see any bear die.. Bears are a magnificent part of forest. In my state and neighboring ones, cougars are responsible for all wildlife attacks, we have had almost no bear attacks, if any.
I can tell you, after being tracked down by a 300lb black bear, there is no way by God's name, that I am going to face a 1000lb pissed off grizzly bear with a gun. Grizzlies are smarter and more fierce than black bears. If I had to face even a large black bear, I like to have a hefty gun that can blow a very big hole in him. Remember a grizzly bear is not stupid. They know you have a gun and will try to dodge your bullets. They charge in a way that makes them very hard to hit and will try to wrestle your a** to the floor before ripping open your skull with their giant teeth.
Heres a video about a hunter armed with a big gun and still couldn't win a fight against a grizzly bear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriOIvvl2yI
Bears have been known to win many battles against hunters..
Oh yeah for the person who thinks he would have no fear using a handgun to save his life, watch the video at 1:17 and tell me how you would feel in this situation. Lucky for this guy, the bear decided to retreat at the sound of the gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw
Heres what happens if you fail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ako1n28iM&feature=related
ONCE AGAIN.. I don't want to see any bear die.. Bears are a magnificent part of forest. In my state and neighboring ones, cougars are responsible for all wildlife attacks, we have had almost no bear attacks, if any.
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arizonaguide
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Bears can kill you without even touching you! (in the Alaskan Bush!)
That second (easton)link is especially excellent.
It shows a very lucky stop with a handgun's noise stopping the bear at 8 feet.
It also shows what a bear charge looks like...and how fast they can happen.
Lastly, it points out another issue that we havn't discussed:
A bear can kill you without even touching you!
The easton folks were on a inflatable raft in the middle of the Bush.
Very few people carry satphones.
So say the bear charged without hurting any of the hunters...but destroyed the inflatable in the process. (happens!)
Guess what, you are now stuck in the wilderness, maybe many miles from home without transportation. (and perhaps wounded from a bear attack!).
Many hunters have been put in similar situations when their boats/rafts/canoes were destroyed, or their food cache was eaten (or maybe just lost downriver) by bears.
Something to think about. No matter what gun you carry.
Those easton people were lucky (and so where the Bears/cubs)
A good guide would have had his shotgun out already, because when you see three cubs, you know Mom's around somewhere.
Excellent links, 4Freedom. Thanks. I think I'll try to track down that whole Easton video at Cabellas. Good stuff.
Question, how can you call yourself a "bowhunter" when you bring a gun along? (just kidding!)
But a similar question comes up in Alaska about "subsistance" hunting in the "traditional" ways.
If you are a "subsistance" hunter, and want to be able to hunt Polar Bears in the "traditional ways"...how does that include "snomobiles" instead of Dogsleds? Or, hunt whales with a boat with twin 100hourse outboards instead of "traditional" kayaks? Just asking. Rhetorical question.
But don't try to tell me it's "traditional" any more than "Bowhunting" is with a gun. JMHO.
That second (easton)link is especially excellent.
It shows a very lucky stop with a handgun's noise stopping the bear at 8 feet.
It also shows what a bear charge looks like...and how fast they can happen.
Lastly, it points out another issue that we havn't discussed:
A bear can kill you without even touching you!
The easton folks were on a inflatable raft in the middle of the Bush.
Very few people carry satphones.
So say the bear charged without hurting any of the hunters...but destroyed the inflatable in the process. (happens!)
Guess what, you are now stuck in the wilderness, maybe many miles from home without transportation. (and perhaps wounded from a bear attack!).
Many hunters have been put in similar situations when their boats/rafts/canoes were destroyed, or their food cache was eaten (or maybe just lost downriver) by bears.
Something to think about. No matter what gun you carry.
Those easton people were lucky (and so where the Bears/cubs)
A good guide would have had his shotgun out already, because when you see three cubs, you know Mom's around somewhere.
Excellent links, 4Freedom. Thanks. I think I'll try to track down that whole Easton video at Cabellas. Good stuff.
Question, how can you call yourself a "bowhunter" when you bring a gun along? (just kidding!)
But a similar question comes up in Alaska about "subsistance" hunting in the "traditional" ways.
If you are a "subsistance" hunter, and want to be able to hunt Polar Bears in the "traditional ways"...how does that include "snomobiles" instead of Dogsleds? Or, hunt whales with a boat with twin 100hourse outboards instead of "traditional" kayaks? Just asking. Rhetorical question.
But don't try to tell me it's "traditional" any more than "Bowhunting" is with a gun. JMHO.
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arizonaguide
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Better than nothing, but .410 is too light. The Judge loaded with .41mag would be my minimum for Small Black Bear.
But I don't like to take just minimums with Bear in the Bush.
Sometimes they're BIG (and angry!)
PS: for those of us who can't get enough of this subject (myself included) here is a great book that was written by one of my High School teachers. Good man. More good stories than I can remember, and a lifetimes worth of bear education.
I've got the first book (of three), and plan to sit down and read it this spring.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/088...4T0Akn81V25qxXHfEfeZMX7+9jDqqCng=#reader-link
But I don't like to take just minimums with Bear in the Bush.
Sometimes they're BIG (and angry!)
PS: for those of us who can't get enough of this subject (myself included) here is a great book that was written by one of my High School teachers. Good man. More good stories than I can remember, and a lifetimes worth of bear education.
I've got the first book (of three), and plan to sit down and read it this spring.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/088...4T0Akn81V25qxXHfEfeZMX7+9jDqqCng=#reader-link
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There may have been roprts of alot of things, but that doesn't mean there is any truth to said report. I don't usually say "never", but I will say with 100% confidence that there will not be anyone to provide proof a 3000 lb kodiak/grizzly or brown bear exists. I'd be willing to put money on it.
arizonaguide
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725lb-1000lbs Average
Weights of Mature Males:
Species, Average, Range, Heaviest Recorded:
Black Bear, 250, 125-600, 803
Brown Bear, 725, 500-900, 2,500+ (inadequate scale?)
Grizzly Bear, 490, 350-700, 1,496
Polar Bear, 1,150, 900-1,500, 2,210
Average Polar Bear = 1000lb+ (!!!)
Average Brown Bear = 725 (average typical range between = 500-900) (!!!)
So, 725-1000lb+++ may be ANGRY (protective mother?), and moving at you (head on) at 30mph+ from a range of less than 10yards, with tremendous POWER! And can destroy your equipment/transportation/food even if you're NOT around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK8TQQp1qAA&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw&feature=PlayList&p=E7AAC61B27BB1EAC&playnext=1&index=8
Bear Spray vs. Bullets
Which offers better protection?
At first glance, this question may seem like a no-brainer. After all, aren’t guns made to kill, while pepper
spray (so-called “bear spray,” when it comes in big cans) does not? Unlike an attack by a human assailant,
who may be able to use your own weapon against you, that safety/survival argument for using pepper spray
doesn’t apply to a human-bear encounter... or does it?
When it comes to self defense against grizzly bears, the answer is not as obvious as it may seem. In fact,
experienced hunters are surprised to find that despite the use of firearms against a charging bear, they were
attacked and badly hurt. Evidence of human-bear encounters even suggests that shooting a bear can escalate
the seriousness of an attack, while encounters where firearms are not used are less likely to result in injury
or death of the human or the bear. While firearms can kill a bear, can a bullet kill quickly enough -- and can
the shooter be accurate enough -- to prevent a dangerous, even fatal, attack?
The question is not one of marksmanship or clear thinking in the face of a growling bear, for even a skilled
marksman with steady nerves may have a slim chance of deterring a bear attack with a gun. Law
enforcement agents for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service have experience that supports this reality --
based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and
defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. During the same period, persons
defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured
experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries. Canadian bear biologist Dr. Stephen Herrero
reached similar conclusions based on his own research -- a person’s chance of incurring serious injury from
a charging grizzly doubles when bullets are fired versus when bear spray is used.
Awareness of bear behavior is the key to mitigating potential danger. Detecting signs of a bear and avoiding
interaction, or understanding defensive bear behaviors, like bluff charges, are the best ways of escaping
injury. The Service supports the pepper spray policy of the Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee, which
states that bear spray is not a substitute for following proper bear avoidance safety techniques, and that bear
spray should be used as a deterrent only in an aggressive or attacking confrontation with a bear.
Like seatbelts, bear spray saves lives. But just as seatbelts don’t make driving off a bridge safe, bear spray
is not a shield against deliberately seeking out or attracting a grizzly bear. No deterrent is 100% effective,
but compared to all others, including firearms, proper use of bear spray has proven to be the best method for
fending off threatening and attacking bears, and for preventing injury to the person and animal involved.
Because the grizzly bear is federally protected in the Lower 48 States as a threatened species, it is a violation of the
Endangered Species Act (ESA) to shoot one, except in self defense and defense of others during an imminent
attack. Penalties under the ESA include up to 6 months in prison and a $100,000 fine. Additional penalties may
also apply to violations of state law. For more information about bear spray and its effectiveness, see:
US Fish and Wildlife Fact Sheets
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/fact_sheets.htm
Weights of Mature Males:
Species, Average, Range, Heaviest Recorded:
Black Bear, 250, 125-600, 803
Brown Bear, 725, 500-900, 2,500+ (inadequate scale?)
Grizzly Bear, 490, 350-700, 1,496
Polar Bear, 1,150, 900-1,500, 2,210
Average Polar Bear = 1000lb+ (!!!)
Average Brown Bear = 725 (average typical range between = 500-900) (!!!)
So, 725-1000lb+++ may be ANGRY (protective mother?), and moving at you (head on) at 30mph+ from a range of less than 10yards, with tremendous POWER! And can destroy your equipment/transportation/food even if you're NOT around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK8TQQp1qAA&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw&feature=PlayList&p=E7AAC61B27BB1EAC&playnext=1&index=8
Bear Spray vs. Bullets
Which offers better protection?
At first glance, this question may seem like a no-brainer. After all, aren’t guns made to kill, while pepper
spray (so-called “bear spray,” when it comes in big cans) does not? Unlike an attack by a human assailant,
who may be able to use your own weapon against you, that safety/survival argument for using pepper spray
doesn’t apply to a human-bear encounter... or does it?
When it comes to self defense against grizzly bears, the answer is not as obvious as it may seem. In fact,
experienced hunters are surprised to find that despite the use of firearms against a charging bear, they were
attacked and badly hurt. Evidence of human-bear encounters even suggests that shooting a bear can escalate
the seriousness of an attack, while encounters where firearms are not used are less likely to result in injury
or death of the human or the bear. While firearms can kill a bear, can a bullet kill quickly enough -- and can
the shooter be accurate enough -- to prevent a dangerous, even fatal, attack?
The question is not one of marksmanship or clear thinking in the face of a growling bear, for even a skilled
marksman with steady nerves may have a slim chance of deterring a bear attack with a gun. Law
enforcement agents for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service have experience that supports this reality --
based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and
defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. During the same period, persons
defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured
experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries. Canadian bear biologist Dr. Stephen Herrero
reached similar conclusions based on his own research -- a person’s chance of incurring serious injury from
a charging grizzly doubles when bullets are fired versus when bear spray is used.
Awareness of bear behavior is the key to mitigating potential danger. Detecting signs of a bear and avoiding
interaction, or understanding defensive bear behaviors, like bluff charges, are the best ways of escaping
injury. The Service supports the pepper spray policy of the Interagency Grizzly Bear Committee, which
states that bear spray is not a substitute for following proper bear avoidance safety techniques, and that bear
spray should be used as a deterrent only in an aggressive or attacking confrontation with a bear.
Like seatbelts, bear spray saves lives. But just as seatbelts don’t make driving off a bridge safe, bear spray
is not a shield against deliberately seeking out or attracting a grizzly bear. No deterrent is 100% effective,
but compared to all others, including firearms, proper use of bear spray has proven to be the best method for
fending off threatening and attacking bears, and for preventing injury to the person and animal involved.
Because the grizzly bear is federally protected in the Lower 48 States as a threatened species, it is a violation of the
Endangered Species Act (ESA) to shoot one, except in self defense and defense of others during an imminent
attack. Penalties under the ESA include up to 6 months in prison and a $100,000 fine. Additional penalties may
also apply to violations of state law. For more information about bear spray and its effectiveness, see:
US Fish and Wildlife Fact Sheets
http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/fact_sheets.htm
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jjohnson
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Not What You Think
Well, all you have to do is wound your buddy so you can run faster.... you can do THAT with just about anything.
Well, all you have to do is wound your buddy so you can run faster.... you can do THAT with just about anything.
AKGuy
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Hey, JJohnson....you are absolutely correct! You don't need a firearm at all in bear country--you just need someone who runs slower than you, or someone who you can handicap at the last moment into thereafter being someone who runs slower than you!
I joke with my kids all the time up here about "what's the most important thing to bring along in these woods (Alaska)?" Usually we fill the answer blank in with the name of one or another of our kids as the offering-du-jour to the BearGods that day..."Tommy, daddy needs you to go hiking with him today so that he can have someone slower than him along in case a bear attacks!" They don't even bat an eye anymore, just roll 'em and say "Daaaaaaaaa--ddddd!"
Seriously--12ga with hardcast slugs always at the ready regardless of how much of a pain in the butt it is, PLUS something in a wheelgun at least 357mag or higher with heavy hardcast bullets to shove in the beast's throat if/when it comes to that...
And as AZGuide has pointed out again and again and again...respecting the bears means more than agreeing that they're nice-n-cool-n-all....it means NOT doing stupid things that invite unwanted encounters...and THAT is at least as important as any weapon....
I joke with my kids all the time up here about "what's the most important thing to bring along in these woods (Alaska)?" Usually we fill the answer blank in with the name of one or another of our kids as the offering-du-jour to the BearGods that day..."Tommy, daddy needs you to go hiking with him today so that he can have someone slower than him along in case a bear attacks!" They don't even bat an eye anymore, just roll 'em and say "Daaaaaaaaa--ddddd!"
Seriously--12ga with hardcast slugs always at the ready regardless of how much of a pain in the butt it is, PLUS something in a wheelgun at least 357mag or higher with heavy hardcast bullets to shove in the beast's throat if/when it comes to that...
And as AZGuide has pointed out again and again and again...respecting the bears means more than agreeing that they're nice-n-cool-n-all....it means NOT doing stupid things that invite unwanted encounters...and THAT is at least as important as any weapon....
arizonaguide
Member
Thanks AKGUY.
I probably ranted too much. But if it saves one person/bear/cub from tragedy then it was worth it.
Also, I knew Pepperspray was good, but I was surprised at how good the statistics showed from Fish and Wildlife.
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service --
Based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and
defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. During the same period, persons
defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured
experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries. A person’s chance of incurring serious injury from
a charging grizzly doubles when bullets are fired versus when bear spray is used. Proper use of bear spray has proven to be the best method for fending off threatening and attacking bears, and for preventing injury to the person and animal involved.
I've got a small one for work, that fits easily in my pocket, or clips onto my belt, waistband, etc.
I probably ranted too much. But if it saves one person/bear/cub from tragedy then it was worth it.
Also, I knew Pepperspray was good, but I was surprised at how good the statistics showed from Fish and Wildlife.
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service --
Based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and
defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. During the same period, persons
defending themselves with pepper spray escaped injury most of the time, and those that were injured
experienced shorter duration attacks and less severe injuries. A person’s chance of incurring serious injury from
a charging grizzly doubles when bullets are fired versus when bear spray is used. Proper use of bear spray has proven to be the best method for fending off threatening and attacking bears, and for preventing injury to the person and animal involved.
I've got a small one for work, that fits easily in my pocket, or clips onto my belt, waistband, etc.
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