Have 7.62x39, no rifle.

[commygun]

Another vote for the CZ 527. I have more fun single-feeding and shooting over iron sights with the CZ than I ever did ripping through AK mags. It is a sweet little carbine.

 

[ifit]

Howas pretty affodable In different configurations
or maybe a czechpoint vz58 compact if budget permits

 

[someguy2800]

https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...132582253&mc_cid=1e96d9d084&mc_eid=f7caf70a51

 

[JT-AR-MG42]

Who did that camo pattern on that carbine ifit?
That is nice with the straight comb and 16? inch barrel, or has it been SBRed?

Any category of other has to include the short lived AIA M10A2.The rifle is basically a 3/4 scale No.4 MK1.
The bolt action works (and removes) just like a No.4 as well.


Imported by Tri-Star for a short time.From what I can read on it, the venture was short lived due to a combination of factors
that were enough to do it in.

The gun is very well made.
The bolt throw is very smooth with no binding. When you open it to extract an empty, the little finger is all that is needed to
bring the bolt to the rear.



The carbines have a chrome lined barrel and fully adjustable front sight.
The weight of the carbine with it's teak wood stocks keeps the recoil down to .223 levels.
While it can accept any AK magazine, I've found that any over the pictured 10 rounder get in the way of my support arm.



The optional scope mount and detachable cheekpiece make it a great plinker.
The end view photo shows how the cheekpiece is radiused to let the shooter get a solid cheek weld, as opposed to pressing
in with the jaw or resting the chin to get a scope picture.
The photo also shows the trappdoor for the AK cleaning kit in the butt.
It really is a comfortable set up and worth keeping an eye out for.



JT

 

[MTMilitiaman]

View attachment 795225 Howas pretty affodable In different configurations
or maybe a czechpoint vz58 compact if budget permits

That VZ58 pistol is sick!

 

[Deus Machina]

Well, I'm not buying it with hunting planned, but it would be nice--something akin to .30-30, so if the opportunity arises I wouldn't have to buy another rifle.
I wouldn't have to.
Range duty and fun would be the vast majority, and so far this thread has brought to mind a bunch of fun-looking options.

 

[ifit]

Jtarmg42, the cammo is how it came originally from Howa. My rifle originally came with a lightweight 22" profile barrel, i shortened it to 17". Howas shortest 7.62x39 factory barrel comes in at 20" but with I Beleive a medium to heavy barrel w/threads. I also removed the soft recoil pad...LOP was too long for me and gettin a goose neck from it.

Love that m10a2

 

[ifit]

Thanks MTM

 

[Bushpilot]

Sure 69 dollars in the early 80's equals close to 200 in today's dollars. 150-200 bucks over 30yrs is not exactly a healthy return.
I didn't like em either BTW and sold mine in the 80's.

How many investments can you make that you can use or play with for 30 yrs and then sell and still double your money after adjusting for inflation???? Now how many that are under $100? Sounds pretty good to me...

 

[JeeperCreeper]

If it were me...

1. Ruger American 7.62x39
2. SKS
3. Howa
4. AR
5. AK
6. Mini30
7. Something else fun

You're in a good spot. All are fun options

 

[Sushigaijin]

I just finished putting this bubba back to fighting trim. I probably overpaid but it sure is fun to bring a gun back from the purgatory of someone else's bad decisions . I'll buy another if I can find the right price.

 

[Gtscotty]

Chock me up with the folks that think a bolt gun is an interesting way to burn up 7.62x39.

CZ 527
Howa Mini
Ruger RAR Ranch

Any of those would be pretty neat. I had a Remington 799 rebranded mini-mauser at one time... hunk of junk, wouldn't recommend it especially with the three offerings above now on the market.

Alternatively, if you wanted to stick with a semi-auto, an AR pistol build with an SB3 brace and a 10.5"-12.5" barrel would be pretty neat. Kind of like a krinkov, 'Murica style.

 

[TTv2]

AR 7.62x39's are oddball creatures, but the results are amazing once you get them running right. If you have the time and money, go AR.

AK's today are not the value they once were. Even high end AK's will not yield the groups you'll want and past 250 yards, the 7.62 drops like a rock. I'm finding it harder and harder to recommend AK's to people these days. I still love the platform, I still think it's one of the top 5 semi auto rifles one can own, but it's limitations are becoming more apparent with each passing year.

Mini-30 would be a great choice if you're looking at getting a Ruger American bolt action in the future or vice versa. I think the American is the rifle to make 7.62x39 mainstream, but the prices on it are too high right now IMO. The Predator that Ruger makes goes for well under 400, but the 7.62 American is for some reason hovering around 425. The price needs to match the Predator before I fully get behind it as until then, the CZ 527 is a better rifle for $100 more.

There is a company called Midland down in West Virginia and they import single shot Turkish shotguns, but Midland has in the works interchangeable rifle barrels (think H&R/NEF Handi Rifle meets Thompson Center) and one of the planned barrels is 7.62x39. The shotgun's cost under $150 and the barrels I assume will be around $100. I'm planning on getting one when the barrels become available, but they won't be available until the end of the year, maybe next year.

So, I say AR if you have the time, money, and inclination,
Mini 30 if you may want a bolt action in the 7.62x39 in the future,
CZ if you want a bolt action right now,
and the single shot Midland if you're willing to wait a bit.

 

[TTv2]

The truth is 7.62x39 ammo prices are going the same place the SKS and AK did.

Now the same price as .223 ammo. Used to be half that. I think the commies are just about finished dumping all of their surplus ammo in the US market.

Uh... the Tula and Wolf plants are going anywhere soon. That old surplus ammo that you got at a gun show in 2004 was cheap crap ammo then and it will always be crap ammo, but the prices have gone up because prices go up on everything.

The days of .20 cent 7.62x39 are indeed over, but 7.62x39 will always be a few cents a round cheaper than .223 brass ammo.

 

[CoalTrain49]

Uh... the Tula and Wolf plants are going anywhere soon. That old surplus ammo that you got at a gun show in 2004 was cheap crap ammo then and it will always be crap ammo, but the prices have gone up because prices go up on everything.

The days of .20 cent 7.62x39 are indeed over, but 7.62x39 will always be a few cents a round cheaper than .223 brass ammo.

So what's the point of owning a 7.62x39 anything? Ammo costs are about 0.08 more for LC 5.56x45 according to ammoseek. At least you get the brass to reload if you want. If you don't reload it you can sell it for $30/1000 which makes 5.56 about a nickle more a round.

Quit buying that commie steel cased garbage and support American ammo manufacturers.

 

[HB]

[QUOTE="CoalTrain49, post: 10872135, memberQuit buying that commie steel cased garbage and support American ammo manufacturers.[/QUOTE]

Thats the whole point of this thread though.

A bolt gun sounds like most fun to me, especially if it shoots as others say they do.

Sounds like American ammo manufactures need to up their game. I guess winchester has steel 9mm now but have yet to see steel case rifle ammo, other than hornady steel match.

HB

 

[Don Dayacetah]

If you are, as you say, mechanically inclined, then building an AK would be a possibility. Restoring a beater SKS could be fun, and possibly more relaxing. Finally, maybe building a "precision" rig on a Howa mini action might be rewarding.

I, personally like my SKS. It's an old WWII era Russia in VGC. Great build, all matching serials, superb balance, runs like a sewing machine. But you might like an AK project gun. I guess the real question is if you want something box mag fed, or you prefer a internal mag, with less rounds.
There's a lot of kits available, if you're looking to build an AK or AR. But you may prefer a milled receiver, unfortunately, the well is drying up for SKSs in VGC.
It would be cheaper to get an AR or an AK in good shape, now.

 

[TTv2]

So what's the point of owning a 7.62x39 anything? Ammo costs are about 0.08 more for LC 5.56x45 according to ammoseek. At least you get the brass to reload if you want. If you don't reload it you can sell it for $30/1000 which makes 5.56 about a nickle more a round.

Quit buying that commie steel cased garbage and support American ammo manufacturers.

Steel case 7.62x39 is the only thing that makes 7.62x39 worth owning. When the chicken littles were out a few months ago about Russian ammo going away due to sanctions and steel tariffs, I said that if 7.62x39 goes up in price to the tune of 50 cents/round, it was no longer worth having because it basically forces you to reload brass cases and reloading a .30 caliber that has a 250 yards max range and less power than .308 is asinine. One would be better off using that time to reload .308.

So long as 7.62 is cheaper or equal to .223/5.56, it's worth having.

As for the commie nonsense, the Russians are our allies now, we just don't want to tell Europe that. If there's anyone you shouldn't be supporting, it's the UK. Yeah, the same nation that had James Bond spy on Trump's campaign because everyone thinks he's an agent of SPECTRE. So stop buying those Holland & Holland's.

 

[drobs]

So what's the point of owning a 7.62x39 anything? Ammo costs are about 0.08 more for LC 5.56x45 according to ammoseek. At least you get the brass to reload if you want. If you don't reload it you can sell it for $30/1000 which makes 5.56 about a nickle more a round.

Quit buying that commie steel cased garbage and support American ammo manufacturers.

And all you reloaders need to quit reloading and support American ammo Manufacturers!!!



And then there are those bullet casters! Taking food right off the table of America ammo Manufacturers!

 

[someguy2800]

So what's the point of owning a 7.62x39 anything? Ammo costs are about 0.08 more for LC 5.56x45 according to ammoseek. At least you get the brass to reload if you want. If you don't reload it you can sell it for $30/1000 which makes 5.56 about a nickle more a round.

Quit buying that commie steel cased garbage and support American ammo manufacturers.

Because 7.62x39 is way more fun to shoot.

 

[Ignition Override]

drobs, post # 39, beat me to it. I tried 'cut and paste' but it doesn't work.

My 2004 Mini 30 wasn't very reliable due to the hard, modern Berdan primers found in steel-cased ammo. Even my nice German-proofed (in Kiel) Sig P225 has issues igniting some "Brown Bear" Russian ammo. We are quite aware that it's not 'carry ammo'.

Both of my Yugo SKS had serious 'popped primer' issues. A very modest charge by Murray's Gunsmithing 'cured' this condition, and those "M59s" (the M59 is Not the 59/66) SKS are now very reliable.

Something about the very rugged character of my five imported AKs never gets old. All are imported varieties because the military-grade steel components and their assembly are considered very durable. A specific website about AKs can help a frequent shooter avoid a very expensive purchase decision. SAR-1, AMD-65 'TGI', Maadi 'ARM', MAK 90, post- Obama ban .223 Saiga, all-original, matching components (everything).

 

[Deus Machina]

Hmm...
How bad are the wire stocks on those AMD-65s, by the way?
Look fun, but I do like a good cheek weld. Not afraid of paracord wrap, of course.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Like the title says, I have a can of 7.62x39, mostly steel of various flavors, sold the Saiga it was going to feed for rent money during tough times, and have nothing else to put it in.

To tell the truth, having a can of mixed 7.62x39 is not a good reason to buy a rifle. It’s an excuse. Now if that can was filled with four or five thousand rounds, that might be a good reason.
But then again I have never needed a good reason to buy a gun.

 

[Deus Machina]

To tell the truth, having a can of mixed 7.62x39 is not a good reason to buy a rifle. It’s an excuse.

Well, yeah.
But I do like the round. For the range I enjoy a little more 'thump' to my shoulder, and it would be more useful for the rare hunting and HD duty than .223 IMO.
I even have some reloadable brass and will buy more once I have another rifle for it. Not that I'll do much, but it's a slow build.
Plus, you know, an excuse.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Well, yeah.
But I do like the round. For the range I enjoy a little more 'thump' to my shoulder, and it would be more useful for the rare hunting and HD duty than .223 IMO.
I even have some reloadable brass and will buy more once I have another rifle for it. Not that I'll do much, but it's a slow build.
Plus, you know, an excuse.

Like I said, I have never needed a reason for buying a gun, but I have had a hell of a lot of excuses over the years.
I have about 200 pieces of brass for reloading for my SKS, but have only loaded a handful over the years. I still have about 3000 rounds of steel case ammo.
I really like the 5.56 round, but I built an AR in 277 Wolverine for hunting deer and hogs out to 250 yard. It has a little more thump.