kennedy
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last couple of times at the range with my .40 sig 226 shooting at 25 yd with my reloads, half of my shots are up to 12 inches low. Have not tried another gun yet, I put a set of Hogue grips on it, but that did not help, any ideas?
help, started shooting sig 226 low
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Is it a new load? Anything else you’ve changed?
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Hand tremors? Have you done some dry fire recently to help alleviate dipping or flinching?
kennedy
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no change in ammo, other then me getting older and not shooting as much since the pandemic nothing has changed,
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Maybe seeing the sights differently? But that would send all shots to the same place ostensibly.
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Maybe try some hand strength exercises and lots of dry fire practice. If possible mix some dummy rounds in with your live rounds and see if you’re dipping/anticipating recoil.
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If nothing changed ammo wise, and you arent shooting regularly, its likely you. Shooting skills are a perishible sort of thing, and you need to keep them up, or you will likely see them start to trail off.
Dry fire is a great way to help keep them up, and the P226's DA trigger is a big help too. A little DA dry frie each day should help get you back on track pretty quick.
Dry fire is a great way to help keep them up, and the P226's DA trigger is a big help too. A little DA dry frie each day should help get you back on track pretty quick.
Riomouse911
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My SIG’s had a 10-ring sight picture rather than a traditional 6 o’clock hold, which may be some of the issue. This is a representative of what I mean:
The rest sounds like anticipation flinch where you are tightening your grip at the point of firing, dipping the muzzle. Have someone slip a dummy round or two in your mag and you can see this in action. (Speculation, without seeing you shoot it can’t be officially diagnosed).
Good luck!
Stay safe.
The rest sounds like anticipation flinch where you are tightening your grip at the point of firing, dipping the muzzle. Have someone slip a dummy round or two in your mag and you can see this in action. (Speculation, without seeing you shoot it can’t be officially diagnosed).
Good luck!
Stay safe.
JTQ
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Wouldn't that pictured sight picture place shots low with the typical SIG sights. Aren't these guns designed to put the front sight dot on the target?
Riomouse911
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Both of my SIG pistols (formerly had a 226, currently own a 228) shot to the top of sight-center target like this image. (My astigmatism pushes shots to the left on all my guns, I need to push the rear on the 228.)
if the OP’s gun shoots to the dot it certainly would be impacting lower.
Stay safe.
if the OP’s gun shoots to the dot it certainly would be impacting lower.
Stay safe.
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Yeah but ALL of them would.
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As I remember, all the SIG's Ive owned and currently own, shot to the front sight dot (all the guns I had that would take them had three dot night sights) not the traditional type 6 o'clock hold sight picture. The gun would appear to shoot low if you shot that way. My Glocks with three dot night sights all seem to shoot that way as well.
Not that its a big deal to change out the front sight (all the manuals that came with the guns I had showed what you needed sight number wise to do so) to adjust for it, should it really bother you.
Before you do anything, Id have someone else you know who can shoot, shoot the gun with your loads, and see if they duplicate what youre seeing. That would at least eliminate and/or confirm one part of this. If it is shooting to the dot, and you shoot more of a bullseye style, and prefer the traditional hold, then you might want to look into changing out your front sight.
Not that its a big deal to change out the front sight (all the manuals that came with the guns I had showed what you needed sight number wise to do so) to adjust for it, should it really bother you.
Before you do anything, Id have someone else you know who can shoot, shoot the gun with your loads, and see if they duplicate what youre seeing. That would at least eliminate and/or confirm one part of this. If it is shooting to the dot, and you shoot more of a bullseye style, and prefer the traditional hold, then you might want to look into changing out your front sight.
sigarms228
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Could be you are flinching or dipping the pistol just before firing to counter recoil. I have had that happen to me. Try the drill below at the range an see what happens as identifying the problem is important to know what to resolve.
It may help to lock your wrists with your grip to mnimize any pistol dipping at firing. I find it helpful to make sure my support hand is pressing up against the bottom of the frame In front of trigger guard with some upward pressure when gripping the pistol to fire.
This video on gripping a pistol may help. It is about Glock but the techniques apply to any auto loading pistol.
It may help to lock your wrists with your grip to mnimize any pistol dipping at firing. I find it helpful to make sure my support hand is pressing up against the bottom of the frame In front of trigger guard with some upward pressure when gripping the pistol to fire.
This video on gripping a pistol may help. It is about Glock but the techniques apply to any auto loading pistol.
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kennedy
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thanks for your help, went out shooting today and same thing happened, but not so much, I think I am dipping the muzzle. still its about half the shots, but the dip is less, practice practice practice.
sigarms228
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Glad to hear you are making progress. It helps to shoot slow and deliberately while trying to resolve this concentrating on keeping the wrists locked through the trigger pull. I like to use the push/pull grip like he shows in the second video I posted where you use some pressure (doesn't have to be a lot) pushing with hand strong and and pulling with your support hand while also applying that upward pressure to the frame in front of the trigger guard with support hand.
I haven't been shooting as much as usual during the Covid stuff and it shows in my shooting and I have had to go back to analyzing the basics again to get back on track. Plan to do more shooting now a days though.
gwpercle
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Few things to consider :
1.) Aim higher ... pay attention to your grip . Any change in grip = change in impact . As we age ... our hand strength changes and could affect your groups .
2.) Adjust sights ...some times they get bumped , or out of adjustment .... or sometimes ...
Our eyes change ... not every person see's the sights the same because every eyeball , lens and retina is slightly different ... like finger prints .
Establish a good grip , adjust the sights to your preferred load and ...
Keep On Keeping On
Gary
1.) Aim higher ... pay attention to your grip . Any change in grip = change in impact . As we age ... our hand strength changes and could affect your groups .
2.) Adjust sights ...some times they get bumped , or out of adjustment .... or sometimes ...
Our eyes change ... not every person see's the sights the same because every eyeball , lens and retina is slightly different ... like finger prints .
Establish a good grip , adjust the sights to your preferred load and ...
Keep On Keeping On
Gary
I have struggled with this. With me it is usually when I haven't shot for a while. With me there will be a shot in the center of the target & then all the other rounds in a group lower. I believe the first shot is on but then after recoil hits me I have a tendency to tighten my grip as the shot breaks. The cure for me is a few minutes of dry fire a night for a week or so followed by trying to shoot more regularly.
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