Help translate foreign inscription on stock.
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Hokkmike
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Looks to be Ukrainian. Some of the letters, the J shaped ones, are NOT Russian. If you have a friend that does Ukrainian they might help....
illinoisburt
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Google translate says it's Serbian if that helps anything. Some of the words are cut off in your pic. I'd download the app and use the camera function to read it using auto detect.
Dave DeLaurant
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Mizar might know -- he translated the Cyrillic on my Czarist Nagant.
entropy
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It's a mystery, because none of the Cyrillic written languages use j, ( many Slavic languages do, but those that do are written in Latin letters with appropriate diacritics) and the character that looks like an "h" with a line through it hasn't been used in Russian (and thus most other Cyrillic scripts) since shortly after the Revolution.
entropy
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"Rookama Mahndyoosheeka Vyooka
Por. Sto. Saks.
Rahkozha (or Vahkozha) Zhehpooska Ooboyta"
IIRC, the "ka" at the end of the second word would be pronounced like the "ch" in Chiam.
Por. Sto. Saks.
Rahkozha (or Vahkozha) Zhehpooska Ooboyta"
IIRC, the "ka" at the end of the second word would be pronounced like the "ch" in Chiam.
entropy
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I don't know what it means, except CTO means "who" in Russian, and many other Slavic languages.
It’s Serbian most likely so probably Yugoslavian origin. The use of “j” and the crossed “d” looking letter which was dropped from Russian after 1917 are good clues (Bulgarian is similar). Ukrainian is distinguished by using “i“ instead of the backwards “N” letter.
Here’s a best effort, I can read Russian somewhat so I can badly pronounce Serbian (there’s a slight chance it could be Bulgarian too) and understand a little. The top says ”rukama mandushia buka“. Rukhi in most slavic languages means “arms” and Bukha is a place?
Bottom is “rakoye ye pushka yuboita”. I’ve seen pushka used in firearms contexts, but all my references are downstairs right now.
The center looks like abbreviations. ”POR. CTO. SAKS”
They’re all probably local inscriptions on a sporting rifle.
Bottom is “rakoye ye pushka yuboita”. I’ve seen pushka used in firearms contexts, but all my references are downstairs right now.
The center looks like abbreviations. ”POR. CTO. SAKS”
They’re all probably local inscriptions on a sporting rifle.
herrwalther
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Using Google Lens Translate the outer inscriptions are Serbian. The inner was not translated. A fuller image would translate better.
"BY THE HANDS OF ZANLUSIC BUK"
"IF THE RIFLE KILLED THAT"
"BY THE HANDS OF ZANLUSIC BUK"
"IF THE RIFLE KILLED THAT"
That helps and also makes no sense, so about right for google translate.
Serbian is notoriously tricky for non-native speakers, but Slavic languages don’t distinguish hands and arms like we do.
Buk is a beech tree. So perhaps “handmade of beech”
Pushka is rifle and yuboita is like yubit in Russian, so to kill. So the lower is likely something lIke “what rifle shoots, it kills”
Serbian is notoriously tricky for non-native speakers, but Slavic languages don’t distinguish hands and arms like we do.
Buk is a beech tree. So perhaps “handmade of beech”
Pushka is rifle and yuboita is like yubit in Russian, so to kill. So the lower is likely something lIke “what rifle shoots, it kills”
Pat Riot
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I would like to see the rifle. 
I agree with Pat Riot. I want to see this thing. The maker clearly thought a lot of its ability.
In my dissertation research, I went down a rabbit hole on economic performance in the YugoslavIan republics. It wound up to be a dead end, but I did learn that in 1962 “6 bears was shooted“ in Montenegro. I can only hope that this rifle’s brethren had a part in the “shootedness” of those 6 bears.
In my dissertation research, I went down a rabbit hole on economic performance in the YugoslavIan republics. It wound up to be a dead end, but I did learn that in 1962 “6 bears was shooted“ in Montenegro. I can only hope that this rifle’s brethren had a part in the “shootedness” of those 6 bears.
In case no one ever said it, thank you for all your hard work on Yugoslavian economic issues...
Mizar
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Just saw this thread... The inscription is in Serbian - although a Slavic language, I'm not very good at it, so the center line is a mystery to me. The sign in oval says "В рукама Мандушића Вука / свакоjа е пушка убоита" which translates to: "In the hands of Vuk Mandusic every rifle is deadly/accurate". It's a popular saying in Serbia, coming from the 19th century poem "The mountain wreath" and Vuk Mandusic is a popular folk hero from the 17th century. He was a commander in the so called "Morlach troops" from Dalmatian region, which fought against the Ottoman empire on the side of Venice.
I believe that the inscription is just a decoration or a gift piece, without any relation to Mandusic.
I believe that the inscription is just a decoration or a gift piece, without any relation to Mandusic.
courtgreene
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This has been amazing. I have no reason to be interested at all in any of this, but have been fascinated reading it. Thanks to all who participated.
Speedo66
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Nice carving job by whoever did it.
