help with a chunk of rust.

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I have seen, or had first-hand experience shortly after three Damascus guns let go.

Two of them resulted in severe injuries to the shooter & loss of some fingers on the left hand.

In one instance, the gun was a very nice old Ithaca trap gun, in very sound condition with no rust, and was used regularly by a trap shooter. Then one day it just let go and took off two fingers.

In another, the gun was in sad shape, but not as sad as the one in this thread.
A young man determined that he could safely shoot low-brass field loads by shooting a box of them with a lanyard & the gun tied to a tree.
And it let go on the first shot of his hunting trip using the exact same loads.
He lost his left thumb and two fingers.

The third gun was in reasonably good condition and was being test fired while tied to an old car tire with black-powder loads.

It blew a 6" chunk of steel out of the left barrel right over the forearm after several rounds had been fired.

Due to the nature of Damascus barrel construction, then is no way to predict when, or after how many shots a gun is safe to shoot.
The welds may have hidden voids or pits in the welds, and continued hammering from shooting even light black powder loads can eventually cause 100+ year old welded seams to fatigue & simply let go.

Shoot them if you want too, but it is bad form to tell others on the Internet it is safe to do the same.

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You could shoot rounds loaded only with primers.
It would make a noise like a 22... :)

I would get some snap-caps or plugs for it.

It really is a beautiful piece of wall art.

What is that gun leaning on the refrigerator?

Also, if you didn't know, your license plate is clearly visible in one of the pictures.
 
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this rusty piece of crap that was once a shotgun


PJR, its a good thing you didnt say that in front of me, you may have found your self with a sore jaw. That rusty piece of crap will one day be a bright shinny memory of a day I spent with my grandpa.

What is that gun leaning on the refrigerator?

thats that 511 he gave-er-made me caretaker of.

Also, if you didn't know, your license plate is clearly visible in one of the pictures.

not mine :p
 
PJR, its a good thing you didnt say that in front of me, you may have found your self with a sore jaw. That rusty piece of crap will one day be a bright shinny memory of a day I spent with my grandpa.
I meant no offense to your grandfather's memory. I apologize for any slight to you or to his memory.

My opinion of the state of the gun hasn't changed however. Fix up the "chunk of rust" as you describe it to your liking. Enjoy it as a keepsake but don't fire it. Otherwise you run the risk of joining your grandfather sooner that you might have planned.
 
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Attachment may give you a possible maker of your wall hanger.
I hope this is helpful.
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I agree with the others. That fine old arm has seen it's better days. After you clean the rust off you can bring out the damascus pattern some if you care to by using an etchant. Or, you can gun blue it and that will bring out some of the pattern visually. I've done this on damascus knives with some decent success. Then hang it on the wall and please don't ever give in to the temptation to just run one round through for posterity. Bad idea.

That is one heckuva lotta work you have ahead of you. But, there is no better kind of work than when that work is a labor of love. Good luck with it.
 
you listen to RC model ! if you know or understood metal urgey you would understand how dangerous this gun would be if someone really tried to shoot it. clean it up, file down the fire ring pins, and hang it on the wall DO THEY MAKE NAVAL JELLY ANY MORE. good rust remover
 
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"if you know or understood metal urgey you would understand"
"file down the fire ring pins"
Yeah don't listen to crazy ol Gordon, you'll put your eye out kid!
 
This "Old dog" needs to be retired. I'd be scared to shoot something this old and abused. It looks like it might blow up in my face. Hang it up on your fireplace and use it as a conversation piece about what happens when you don't keep your guns properly clean and oiled. The cost of fixing this would be way more than the gun is worth. You'd be better off taking your money and buying a new Browning Citori or Beretta 686.
 
My opinion of the state of the gun hasn't changed however.

i like to see that, you standing by your guns.

dont worry everybody, im not going to shoot it. only thought about til i saw the bore.

but i would like a side by side like this with bunny ears. its got to be a 12 ga, side-by-side. what are my options?

no body really knows what this gun is?, i would like to have one of it, only in better shape :p
 
There are a lot of foreign makes on the market. Check out auction arms, and do a search for coach guns.
 
With some TLC,it can be brought back to life!!!!

One I did last year:

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After a few hours work:

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