Henry rifles, 45 colt and 45-70

I have 8 Henry rifles but only one has a loading gate. It is the .44 Carbine Steel Version (not a 45) but it is a great shooter. Pretty sure the .45 would be very similar.

I also have a Henry .45-70 Big Boy Steel that was made before loading gates were added. It handles loads with ease that my shoulder would prefer not to shoot.

I have never owned or fired a Marlin or Winchester lever rifle so I cannot give a comparison.

I did own a Rossi R92 in .357 magnum. The action was pretty rough and I did a lot of work on it (the Steve Gunz action job) and refinished the stock. It was much better when I finished. Couple years later, I purchased a Henry Big Boy Steel rifle in .357 magnum. After shooting it, I no longer had a desire to keep the Rossi.
 
I have a brass Henry 45/70, no loading gate. I’m a peep sight fan so I changed the sights.
I love my Henry. I’ve had no issues with any ammunition
 
I have a rare, commemorative Henry in 30-30. Brass receiver, side gate, octagon barrel. Have not shot it and probably won't so I can't comment on how it does. However, comparing it to my early 80s Marlin 336, the fit and finish is on par with gold trigger JM stamped Marlins from decades ago. Maybe better. A partner Henry, most likely an all weather model, is on my shortlist for an actual use rifle.
 
I got the 30-30 Brass Wildlife Edition, no side gate. Same frame size and action type as the 45/70. I also added the fancy stock set, which they sell as an upgrade.

The quality is superb, I have nothing bad to say about Henry. The action is slick, and the gun is more accurate than I am. The full octagon barrel is beautiful, but heavy! At 8.30lbs, this gun feels like a brick. I mainly use it as a bench rested target gun, or for steel silouhette competition, in which case the added weight makes for a very soft shooting gun (even with that solid brass buttpad). If you want one to lug around in the field all day, go with the standard round barrel!

I have a good couple thousand rounds through it thus far, no problems!
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Besides looking very much like an updated Marlin rifle, what do ya'll think of the Henry rifles, especially the ones with the loading gates?
I am thinking of purchasing these two rifles, and I very much like the idea of made in America

I shoot left handed, and left handed guns seem to be getting more and more expensive, and lever guns do not have the negative reactions AR'S AND AK'S seem to have
On the Henry website, they have little boxes in the gun descriptions that say "left-hand friendly". I suppose they eject more straight to the side rather than up and back?

I own a Henry in 45 Colt. I like the rifle a lot. It shot decent enough out of the box. I’ve been trying to handload for it but have gotten sidetracked with other projects. It’s a well built rifle in my opinion. The only negative possibly might be it’s weight. This is not a light weight rifle. It is not so heavy that it’s cumbersome, but it’s heavier than most of the competition.

-Jeff

This is a serendipitous thread, I had logged on just now to post much the same thing. I don't have a lever gun, and everything I've seen elsewhere speaks well of the Henry lever actions. I specifically want one chambered in a handgun caliber and am leaning towards two in particular. The Big Boy Classic in .41 Magnum, or the Big Boy Case Hardened side gate in .45 Colt. The weight of these guns was mentioned above, and the specs on the website show the case-color versions weigh almost a pound less than the brass receiver models. I reload both .45 Colt and .41 Magnum, as I own S&W revolvers in both calibers. I like the .41 Magnum simply as it is a higher velocity cartridge than .45 Colt, but I feel the .45 Colt would be sufficiently fast out of the longer rifle or carbine barrel. Can anyone weigh in on what kind of MV I could expect from .45 Colt from a 16 or 20 inch barrel. Both these versions have the octagon barrel, which I really like the looks of, and I'd prefer the side gate on the Classic, but it doesn't come that way. The side gate models aren't offered in .41 Magnum, although they do offer them in .44 Magnum. I do have a .44M revolver, but I like the .41's better. I'm still floating between a 20" model or the 16" carbine. I have AR's in both barrel lengths, so I'm familiar with the differences in handling. Prices being the same between the lengths doesn't help deciding which one.

Oh, the agony of decision. :D Help me Obi-Wan, you're my only hope.
 
I went ahead and purchased the Henry all weather with loading gate 45-70 with 18 inch barrel, and can not wait to shoot it. I had the full size, brass frame, 22 inch barrel and i was great, but I wanted the short version, as that long barrel was not a quick fire gun. No problems shooting, and as I have owned both the 22 inch barrel Marlin and the Marlin guide gun, wanted the shorter barrel
 
I specifically want one chambered in a handgun caliber and am leaning towards two in particular. The Big Boy Classic in .41 Magnum, or the Big Boy Case Hardened side gate in .45 Colt.

Something like this ?
 

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I also have the Henry 22, and had to send to the warranty section and was very pleased at the work they did. Is why I decided on the Henry all weather.
I have the Rossi 92 stainless, 16 inch barrel. I removed the safety (did keep it just in case) and while I have not shot it yet , it seems to function really well, and that 16 inch barrel balances really well. Funny part is with all the companies making copies of the 92, none are made in America. Winchester/Browning made in Japan, Chaippa made in Italy, and Rossi made in Brazil.
Browning inventions are sure making a dent on the market.
 
I may eventually want the 38/357 mag and the 45 colt made by Henry, but the action of the stainless Rossi is an action I am very familiar with, as my granddads carried 92 from back in the 1920s and 1930s. Course theirs were original Winchesters in 44-40
 
Well, I went and did it. The periodic gun show was in town today; I usually go and wander around, and when I have money, I look for S&W revolvers in the time period I like.

But today, after making my way through about 75% of the tables, several of which had new Henry rifles, but none in the caliber/model I was looking for, I came upon a table with quite a few new Henrys. And Lo! and Behold! there was a brass receiver, side loader, octagonal barrel .45 Colt. I picked it up and handled it, it wasn't as heavy as I thought it might be. The guy at the table and I talked a bit, their store is in a town about 30 minutes up the interstate from me. I told him what I was looking for, this particular rifle being one of them. He mentioned the standard Big Boy in .41 Magnum was basically unobtanium, and any of the models with the color case hardened receiver were hard to get. That was all fine with me, I took the one he had and am tickled pink. $900 out the door. As soon as I got it home, I ran a couple of oiled swabs down the bore, they came back pretty clean. Then I waxed the stock and fore end with Bri Wax, it is a carnauba and beeswax combo and gives a tiny bit of golden hue to brown wood. Then I waxed the receiver and barrel with Rennaisance Wax, to keep the fingerprints of my fondling off of the metal. If I can get my chores done early enough, I might take it to the range and break it in.
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I had to send a golden boy 22 back to Henry, I messed up and had to have the barrel replaced and the lever replaced. What they did went way beyond my expectations, changed the barrel, both front and rear sights, the mag tube both inner and outer, and changed some wood. I could not be happier, as the gun came back to me , all packaged up like it was when I bought it.
That is the reason I decided to go with the New Henry all weather 45-70 with the 18 inch barrel.
I actually traded for a new ROSSI, stainless, 38/357 19 inch barrel. I have purchased the kit from Steves gunz, but so far all I have done is remove the safety, and replace it with a plug. It seems to function really well, and as soon as I shoot it I will let you know. I have to tell you that 16 inch barrel balances really really well. And the basic gun is just like what I grew up with many, many years ago. My granddads were town marshalls in old Oklahoma during the oil boom in the 1920s and 1930s, and carried Winchester model 92s in their job, and taught us how to shoot using them. Course their guns were 44-40 and not 38/357.
 
I own no Henry rifles. I always thought they were kind of ugly - a modern rendition of a lever action rifle. I also refused to buy one when they didn't have a loading gate. Now that they heard my plea, I may actually pick one up in 45-70.

I do own a Rossi 92 in 357 and a Winchester 94 30-30.
 
I picked up my new Henry, all weather, brushed chrome, loading gate, 18 inch barrel, 45 70 , yesterday, and it is awesome. I have a Rossi, stainless, 16 inch barrel, 38/357, and a Henry Golden Boy .22
I would still like to get an 1895 in 30 06, and a 45 colt stainless Rossi with that 16 inch barrel, you would be surprised at how well that thing carries.
 
I picked up my Henry all weather, brushed chrome, 18 inch barrel, loading gate version, 45 70. Can't wait to go shoot it. it is about the same overall length as a Marlin guide gun, and I would think packs about the same.
I still think I would like the Rossi 16 inch barrel 45 colt, stainless
 
Forty five seventy, eh? Had a Ruger #3, and the challenge was to load it down so it wouldn't kick my brains out. Realize the Henry is a big heavier, but the .45-70 is a boomer. Wish I still had the #3, I might try it with Trailboss.
Yeah, a domestic 92 would be a great idea; Henry seems lined up with a Marlin layout.
If you want a punkin roller, a .45 Colt makes more sense.
Moon
 
I had a Ruger #3 one time, shot it with my reloads and traded it off for a number 1. It was just too light, and made my eyes cross. I eventually settled on the Marlin, but they have gotten so bad as far as quality control, and now with Ruger making them sooo expensive. But that Henry is about right, as far as weight, barrel length and all
 
for the pistol caliber guns wish they would make em in the 92 lay out. That Rossi, 357/38 with the 16 inch barrel is a real joy to carry, and I just hope it is not too bad as far as recoil goes. When I was young my two grandads had 44 40 Winchesters in model 92's and they did not kick hardly at all
 
The more I looked at my Henry, the less I liked the color and finish of the stock. I know it is a mass-produced finish, every gun a clone of the other ones, but it was just too dark and let too little of the wood grain show. The stain is more solid than transparent. I decided to refinish my brand-new stock, which didn't have a single mark on it. I took the fore end and butt stock off, and removed the butt plate, and began to sand, using 220 grit paper. Took a bit over 3-1/2 hours to get the old finish off. Once it was gone, I switched to 400 grit paper and kept sanding, taking the opportunity to dull some sharp edges along the top edge of the fore end, rounding them slightly to give them a slightly worn look. You can feel it, but not really see it on the finished stock. I also rounded over the flat spot on the top of the butt stock just forward of the butt plate a bit more. After the 400 grit, I went to 600 grit and sanded some more. I left the area alone under the barrel band so the fit would still be tight when it was replaced. You don't see that part of the wood when assembled. The grain of the stock is nothing fancy, but does have some variations. You can see them below. I cleaned the sanded stock with turpentine to remove microdust and degrease any remaining oils or residue of the old finish. The sanded wood is smoother than the original finish now.
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Next I started rubbing in some Minwax semitransparent stain, in a Golden Oak color. It's easier when staining to go from a lighter color to a darker one than vice-versa. I applied 2 coats about 30 minutes apart, letting them soak for that period of time before wiping them off. I then mixed in a little Early American stain and applied another coat, added a bit more and then did two more coats after seeing the color approaching what I wanted. The Early American adds brown but is a lighter color than walnut stain, so it's easier to gradually darken the finish as you continue to apply coats of stain. By the 5th coat, it was where I wanted it. I knew that the last step would add a bit more yellow hue.
Once the stain had plenty of time to dry (overnight), I then applied some Teak Oil per the instructions on the can. Apply one coat and let it soak in for about 15 minutes, then apply a second coat over the first without removing the excess from the first coat.The second coat sits for another 15 minutes, then the excess is wiped off. The Teak oil is much thicker than the stain and fills the grain, then hardens and semi-seals the wood (It's not a waterproof finish like polyurethane would be). I let the Teak Oil cure for 9 hours and then applied two coats of BRIWAX, buffing each coat to a shine. BRIWAX is a combination of carnauba and beeswax. It dries quickly and you really have to rub hard to buff it out, but it gives a nice semi-gloss finish that repels water very well. This is not a maintenance-free finish, it needs an occasional coat of wax to bring back the luster after a lot of handling. I've finished a couple of other gun stocks this way several years ago and have yet to need another wax job, and the guns get a good bit of use. These pictures are of the stain and Teak Oil before waxing. Note the color difference between the new and old color at the ring where the barrel band is.
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Once I waxed and buffed the stock, I reassembled the rifle. I think it looks pretty good, now I have a hand-rubbed finish on my Henry.
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I’m a Marlin fan (pre-Remington) and I’m willing to give the Ruger Marlins a try. I don’t own a Henry but have handled several and can’t find anything to complain about at all. The addition of the loading gates shows responsiveness to the customer. These guns are made in the US and the Imperato family that own Henry are active funders and supporters of 2A protection organizations. Their new revolvers are ugly and overpriced. But they make good rifles, so I would endorse your decision.
 
I added another .45 Colt to the stable yesterday, a Uberti 1873 Cattleman SAA, 5-1/2" barrel. Put 50 rounds through it today, love it. I'll probably get a second one in a couple of months.
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