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I am a dyed in the wool revolver guy when it comes to handguns that would like to buy an inexpensive auto for plinking and possible protection from wild piggies. I went to a gunstore a while a week or two ago and looked around. They suggested a high point .45, .40, or a used Ruger in .40. I have seen the carbines, but had never seen a hi point pistol before. At $120 the price is more than right, but are they decent guns. My requirements for decent: it goes bang every time when it has ammo in it, it hits a man sized target when I do my part out to 25 yards, will not fall apart after 4 years. The guy behind the counter said that they have the best customer service in the industry and if they do break they will be fixed for free under an unlimited lifetime warranty. Is this true?
Does anybody have one of these and how well do they shoot? Also what are good auto options for under $200. I already have a .38 J frame and a .357 K frame revolver and just want a cheap auto to play with at the range and take hiking around the property.
 
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Their warranty is the best out there. No questions asked Lifetime warranty. They will even give you a few free mags for your trouble and to help of set shipping cost.

Call them and tell them you accidentally ran over your pistol and broke it. They will tell you to send it back and they will either fix it or replace it. Even if you offer to pay for the repair, they will refuse payment and tell you just to ship it back and the repair will be free.

Heck you could even tell them you modified and broke it on purpose, and they will still fix it for free...

Iberia Firearms
3929 St. Rt. 309
Galion, OH. 44833
1-419-468-3746
 
It is my understanding that the Hi-Point pistols require about 100 rounds to be put through them before they become reliable. I have the 995 carbine in 9mm and it is a hoot to shoot. I have not done any serious shooting with it but it is just a fun weapon. One thing I did when I first got the weapon was to disassemble it and clean and lubricate it. It needed it - badly. It was full of chips and not lubricated well at all. Since then, I have had no problems. This is the firing pin. It has a lot of fine chips and dirt in it. It also did not have any lubricant on it.

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They ain't pretty, and they are made of inexpensive materials, like zink castings but they seem to function well.

Also, for the price, if you screw it up you are not out much.
 
I would have to give them a 4 or 5.

Allot of people call them POS’s that fall apart or KABOOM allot. Problem is, I have yet to see one single photo of a HP KABOOM. Yet I have seen many photos of Glock and other brands KABOOMs. If they were as bad as some would claim; you would see many photos and reports on it.

Some say only thugs buy them. This is also not true. Most people who have HPs also own Glocks, Springfield’s, and other firearms. I just added an S&W M&P to my collection. I still take my Hi-Points (40 pistol and 995 carbine) to the range and they are still a joy to shoot. I have never had one single problem out of either.

It is not a high quality firearm that you pass down generation to generation. Nor is it a target match quality pistol. The truth is the Hi-Point is a cheap pistol that functions well. It is made in the USA with an unbeatable lifetime warranty. I think some of the jamming problems are mainly with the 9mm pistols and is due to the feed lips on the mags. Once adjusted, they are supposed to function fine. The Carbines and .40 & .45 pistols are supposed to function great right out if the box.
 
i have shot a hi-point .45 before.....let me rephrase that, i attempted to shoot one, but every other round jammed. so, let's do some math.....8 rd. capacity, only 4 shots fired successfully. i've been trying to contact their customer service reps for over a week, with no response. as far as the best customer service, i give smith & wesson my vote. if you want a cheap handgun, there are better brands out there: kel-tec, charter arms, and cobra come to mind. in fact, you can get a smith & wesson .40 sigma for under $300.
 
For those that own them and other autos, would it be worth it for me to wait until Christmas and get something in the 300-400 range. I have been looking and shooting various pistols for a while trying to find something that I like. I can see why people like Glocks, but they just don't feel right in my hand although I hit what I aim at with them. I love shooting 1911s and would love to own one but not as my primary auto. My friend's .40 Sigma was ok and I would have loved it if it hadn't been DA only. I am thinking along the lines that if I get a high point and hate it, I am only out 120 bucks and still have a pistol to shoot at the range. As a milsurp junky I looked at Makarovs and Tokarevs, but ammo is hard to find around here.
 
i have shot a hi-point .45 before.....let me rephrase that, i attempted to shoot one, but every other round jammed. so, let's do some math.....8 rd. capacity, only 4 shots fired successfully. i've been trying to contact their customer service reps for over a week, with no response.
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Sorry but your story doesn't add up. You have shot one before, or you own one? You attempted to shoot only 1 mag, then never tried ever again? Sounds funny... When have you been calling? I have called them 3 times (for general questions) and a nice lady answers every time. They don't have an automated phone system where you have to hit 1 for this and 3 for that. If you call 877-425-4867 during regular business hours someone will answer the phone, every time. Maybe your calling the wrong company or you never actually called (or fired one).
 
For those that own them and other autos, would it be worth it for me to wait until Christmas and get something in the 300-400 range.
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Depends on what your wanting. You can get a used XD in the $400 range, which is far better than the Hi-Point. It will also have a better resale value.

For $120 you can get a new Hi-Point, which is a good dependable pistol that will work fine. It wont have as much of a resale value, so don't look at it as an investment. You could probably get $70 for it used, if a gun shop will buy it. It also not a show piece where you can brag to your friends... "Look what I got."

I like my Hi-Point 40S&W pistol and I would buy one again. However, I will say I like my S&W M&P more. You can tell a big difference in them. The M&P is worth the extra cost to be sure. One is a Geo Metro and one is a Mustang. Both will get you to the store, but the performance and style of the Mustang is far superior...
 
Keep in mind that I already have two nice S&W revolvers that I am happy with and I just want to get into autos for the minimum for a good gun.
 
i've owned a couple...9mm and 45 pistols...my brother has a 45 as his truck gun and my son has a 9mm...i've shot at least 4 and they have always gone bang when they were supposed too...my brother is terrible about maintenance/cleaning a gun and after a year or so he's still never had any trouble with it at the range...

...i'd give them a 4 or 5 also...based on the fact that the ones i've owned and shot have been reliable and the price is very good on them when buying a new one...

...for hiking i'd recommend staying away from the 45 though...its a monster...:)
 
With all due respect I doubt a .45 fired out of a full sized gun can be bad compared to a .38 +p out of a lightweight snubby. Every 1911 I have fired didn't have near as much recoil as that little bugger.
 
The main problem with Hi-points is that they're straight blowback. If that's the first auto you fire, it may just turn you off autos for good. Recoil on straight blowback guns is nasty. It is definitely a night and day difference in comfort, between firing a High Point and a Glock in the same caliber. I'd go with the used Ruger.
 
I bought a High-Point 9mm as an experiment, just to see for myself how they perform. I have fired about 250 rounds through it, not enough for a true break-in but enough to get the idea.

First of all, if you can get one for $120 then you are right in thinking that you won't be out much money if you don't like it. I do agree with the thinking that you should wait until Christmas and get something in the $300-400 range. That opens up numerous options.

Reliability: The gun failed to feed numerous times but always went "bang" when it did feed. I consider it Badguy accurate to 15 yards, 25 yards would be a little iffy.

It is an ugly gun and very poorly balanced. However, for $120 I guess it isn't that ugly after all.

I would save the $ for something better, but its your $, buy the gun if you like it.

As an afterthought, the grip on it actually felt half-way decent.
 
Looks like I'm waiting to buy a better gun then. How much are the new M&Ps. I'm also going to look at some CZs although I have never seen one around here.
 
DerbyDale
Maybe your calling the wrong company, or you never actually called (or fired one).
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elrod
Not High Road, IMHO.
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I don't think I did anything wrong. I did not believe his story (since Hi-Point is very easy to get on the phone) and was questioning it. I think I did so in a civil manner without name calling or bad language.

If I did something wrong, I apologize, as it was not my intent.
 
Hi Point is very easy to get on the phone. They are always nice and do not give a bunch of run around when you call. If you need something fixed they fix it no questions asked.

The Hi Point is butt ugly, hard recoiling,unbalanced, and not easy to take down for cleaning. It was not made to be or marketed to be THE BEST GUN OUT THERE.

It is a plinking gun or a night stand gun for those that can not afford to buy a nicer gun.

Most HP threads follow this line. Guys that have them like them. Guys that do not have them hate them.

One idiot will write in and say that the HP is the best gun made. This will get the piranha circling real good.

Another idiot will write in and say that he had one and it was such a pos that he buried it in the desert or threw it in the ocean, right I believe that.:rolleyes:
 
the hi-point was the first blow back pistol i had shot and i loved it. its not made to look pretty. its a gun, you use it to protect your self and others not as a show peice as i see it. i love colt 1911's and would one day like to afford one as well as a beretta 92fs, but again for me that is a little spendy. maybe im cheap but for the $120 i sent on the brand new 9mm it has been a awsome gun. people who have shot them love them.

ive been to a local range and was slinking while some law enforcement was at the end of the range. when they where walking in and out a few stopped and kind chuckled. i herd and turned around and asked the guy if he would want to give it a try. he ended up going to about 6 clip and walking inside and buying the same one i have a few minutes later. they stopped laughing and said it was a great gun.

its well balanced with a full mag, a tad on the top heavy side while empty but not bad and not anything you cant get used to. also i belive it is also one of the safest guns ont he market. it wont fire with a round in the hole and no mag in it. if you drop it it wont fire, etc. i took about 300 rounds of break in before i had no jamming problems and all that was was miss feeding from the mag which i fixed with a file taking down the sharp edges.

i have shot MANY other guns, im not saying its the best, but i am saying its the best for the investment. and a great match for someone that feels the need to have a fire arm and is not a comp shooter. just someone that wants the protection and goes to a range once a year.
 
my 995 carbine has been nothing but flawless. the only down side is finding local mag sources. im considering a .380 for sale localy for 150$ ( cant get new hi point pistols in MA so prices are a little up and supply is pretty low.)
 
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