I see Hi Point pistols advertised on Bud's for $150-$175 new. I do not know anything about these guns. I own many guns-S&W, Colt, Ruger, Sig, Springfield, Glock, etc but do not know anything about this pistol called the Hi Point. One large Richmond VA dealer told me they would not sell it or take one in on trade. I am NOT in the market for one but would be interested in anyone's experience with this brand. Are they really that bad? Thanks in advance.
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V1ROT8
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I own two. Both 45's. They do everything I ask of them. Do a google and look them up. I am pleased with my two. They sell very well in this area. The price is right also.
They aren't bad (actually they tend to be decently reliable), but they're designed to be as cheap as possible, they aren't meant to be pretty or accurate or easy to carry, just cheap... so they tend to generate a bit of controversy when they come up in polite conversation.
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I bought the c9 compact 9mm brand new minus the box from a local pawn shop for 100 out the door. They were reducing inventory for year end and said to make an offer. I tried every which way to make it jam and never could get it to. They are A+ in my book.
mgmorden
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Google is thy friend. Hi Points or nothing if not well discussed.
My summarized feelings as a Hi Point owner (who would be a former owner if they didn't pull such low resale value):
They are OK-ish. They are heavy for their size, and are very thick to come with a single-stack mag. Nigh on impossible to conceal carry one. Terrible sights and trigger. Ugly as sin. Slide is made of zinc which gives it a usable life span about 10% of the round count that of guns with a steel slide could handle.
As to reliability - it really depends. Some work great. Mine has actually never jammed the times that I've shot it. I have seen others with issues though (one guy brought one to one match I was in and I didn't see it make it through a single stage without 3-4 jams). If it DOES give you trouble they do indeed have a lifetime warranty, but with the cost of shipping a handgun if you have to use it once you're already approaching the price of something like a Sigma (which though no super-pistol, is in a completely different class).
Bottom line: if you absolutely, positively, cannot afford anything better, then it can be a working firearm that isn't quite the junk that the "ring of fire" (Jennings, Jiminez, etc) guns are. If you can though, IMHO you'd be much better served by spending the extra couple dollars and going to a S&W Sigma, Ruger P95, or even a Keltec P11 or PF9.
My summarized feelings as a Hi Point owner (who would be a former owner if they didn't pull such low resale value):
They are OK-ish. They are heavy for their size, and are very thick to come with a single-stack mag. Nigh on impossible to conceal carry one. Terrible sights and trigger. Ugly as sin. Slide is made of zinc which gives it a usable life span about 10% of the round count that of guns with a steel slide could handle.
As to reliability - it really depends. Some work great. Mine has actually never jammed the times that I've shot it. I have seen others with issues though (one guy brought one to one match I was in and I didn't see it make it through a single stage without 3-4 jams). If it DOES give you trouble they do indeed have a lifetime warranty, but with the cost of shipping a handgun if you have to use it once you're already approaching the price of something like a Sigma (which though no super-pistol, is in a completely different class).
Bottom line: if you absolutely, positively, cannot afford anything better, then it can be a working firearm that isn't quite the junk that the "ring of fire" (Jennings, Jiminez, etc) guns are. If you can though, IMHO you'd be much better served by spending the extra couple dollars and going to a S&W Sigma, Ruger P95, or even a Keltec P11 or PF9.
CoRoMo
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Sometimes I think my C9 is the best $80 I ever spent. Sometimes I figure that I could have done something much better with those four twenty dollar bills.
SwampWolf
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Generally speaking, you get what you pay for.
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Only one thing I disagree with in this statement, these are a really accurate pistol by design because of the fixed barrel blow-back design these are most accurate than most. Now I'm not that accurate with mine compared to say my Cz 75b but that because I really don't care for the sights.
Over all they work but for a little more money you could probably get a better deal. Also I only really use mine anymore to test new loads as these things are built like a tank and can really take a beating along with really high pressure, oh and it shots my zinc/alum ammo nicely.
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They are heavy, simple guns designed to be affordable and go bang, and they fit that bill well. Can't say I would buy one just to have it, but if price was right, id get it for the SHTF stockpile.
fallout mike
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For the most part, the people that have them like them. The people that doesn't have them say they would never have one due to a whole list of reasons that the people that have them have never experienced.
Mike1234567
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I have a JHP. It's heavy, top-heavy, bulky... and fugly. But it goes bang evertime I pull the trigger with zero failures after I THOROUGHLY cleaned the magazines. The mags straight from the factory are FILTHY internally. Oh... it's accurate too. I have approximately 2000 rounds through mine.
Bottom line is I would recommend H-P to those with limited means and/or just want an inexpensive plinker or toolbox gun.
Bottom line is I would recommend H-P to those with limited means and/or just want an inexpensive plinker or toolbox gun.
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In theory, you might have a point. When I did head-to-head tests doing a rapid-fire mag dump on an 18x36" steel plate, my Hi-Point was noticeably less accurate than the CZ-85 I put it up against, which has a more traditional tilting-barrel mechanism.
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I thought the implication was the fixed barrel design was more inherently accurate than the tilting barrel design.
ET
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The only reason I have a Hi-Point C9 is because my brother gave it to me some 13 years ago in lieu of payment for $50 he owed me. I wouldn't trust my life to this gun. I look at it as a plinker. I've had way too many ftf's with this gun to trust my life with it. Many owners swear by them, many swear at them. Let's just say that I own 3 Taurus handguns...a Judge, a Mil Pro pt111 & a pt1911. Every one of those guns is by far a better handgun than the Hi-Point. Yes, I know it's like saying that the Taurus is the tallest dwarf in the crowd, but it is what it is... (oops, 
is that not politically correct?)
is that not politically correct?)smlake, the only thing I haven't seen mentioned is that Hipoint has top-rate customer service and repair/replacement guarantee. Since quality control has been an issue with Hipoint, this solves that problem if you're willing to go that route. I am willing, though I don't own a Hipoint yet.
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I just sold my Hi Point .45 today. I liked the gun, but it was second banana to my Smith. It was accurate, reliable, ate anything I put in it. The pro's for me, outweighed the cons, which were mostly aesthetic.
It helped fund the purchase of my SKS, and 7.62x39 is much cheaper than .45ACP.
Overall, I'm happy with Hi Point products, also having owned the 9mm carbine. I'm sure I'll pick up another at some point, probably the C9, as a gun to toss in a bug out bag, or something to have on the off chance my Smith fails.
It helped fund the purchase of my SKS, and 7.62x39 is much cheaper than .45ACP.
Overall, I'm happy with Hi Point products, also having owned the 9mm carbine. I'm sure I'll pick up another at some point, probably the C9, as a gun to toss in a bug out bag, or something to have on the off chance my Smith fails.
I am always amused by the fact that the poster who launches into the usual complaints that Hi-Points are unreliable, inaccurate, no good, fall apart, and so on, almost always concludes by saying that he doesn't own one, wouldn't own one, and has never even seen one.
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I've got one. It shoots just as well as any other gun I've ever owned.
Now, that's not to say it IS as good. Just that it shoots as well. It's reliable, and accurate enough to hit what I shot at with it. Well made? Well, it's well made for an inexpensive gun made out of inexpensive materials. But it's no Smith & Wesson that's for sure.
I probably wouldn't buy another one, but I'm not sorry to have bought this one. I shot it quite a bit when I first got it, but I'll probably never shoot it again.
Now, that's not to say it IS as good. Just that it shoots as well. It's reliable, and accurate enough to hit what I shot at with it. Well made? Well, it's well made for an inexpensive gun made out of inexpensive materials. But it's no Smith & Wesson that's for sure.
I probably wouldn't buy another one, but I'm not sorry to have bought this one. I shot it quite a bit when I first got it, but I'll probably never shoot it again.
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In all fairness, I have heard of High Points that actually worked but, life is too short to put up with ugly guns. I wouldn't even let a Glock on the place. You can guess how many High Points are here.
I just got one and I have to say its growing on me. I got it more or less to disprove or confirm all the negative things you hear about them. So far Ive noted that the recoil is more noticable in 9mm than say a Glock 17 but its still quite accurate out to 25 yards. It is ugly there is no denying that but I mean for less than $200 I would say its worth a shot. I have some more torture testing to do before I buy another one, but this one is worth it so far.
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