High Point firearms

[mgkdrgn]

That was $350 for ALL FOUR, right?

High Point pistols ... heavy, ugly, ergonomics of a paving brick, but they have a lifetime warranty and go BANG pretty much every time you pull the trigger.

High Point carbines ... fun little guns with way to small capacity mags.

 

[tarosean]

That was $350 for ALL FOUR, right?

+1


OP they are one of the cheapest firearms you can buy period.

 

[Furncliff]

Hi Point 4595, paid $260, I've had it about 3 years...2000 rounds through it. It shoots just about anything including the SWC 1911 loads I load myself, it can handle +P loads. The guns come with a no BS guarantee regardless if you bought the gun new or used. I've had a couple of occasions to deal with the maker. You can reach them, you'll speak to a human and you'll come away satisfied with their service. If you need extra mags or other accessories they are not expensive and Hi Point will ship everything for free.They are reliable enough to use for home defense. I'm not 100% happy with the accuracy of mine, but I'm fussy about that and these carbines aren't meant to be target rifles. Are they ugly... yes, but they are cheap fun.

 

[javjacob]

you get what you pay for

 

[hueytaxi]

Had a 9mm handgun, unloaded the plastic hybrid quickly after firing it at night. was blinded by muzzle flash from several points. rattled like a worn out colt .45. Yet I still own a 995 and never had a jam unless it was the first round driven into the breech.

 

[wgaynor]

Anybody that has a Hi-Point and is not happy about it's operation has a right to speak up. But, if they don't try to fix the problem by contacting them and trying to make it right, you are being foolish. Any factory can produce screw ups, even Glocks. Hi-Point makes good on their warranty though.

I got one in a trade. traded a Kel-teck PF9 for a Hi-point 995. thing had a cracked stock and the springs were in bad shape, but I wasn't worried. I had owned Hi-Points before and while never had to use their customer service for a problem (just to get extra springs and firing pins for whatever may happen), I was confident in them due to previous dealings.

Called them (I had plenty of time, was at home from another knee surgery) and spoke with them about my rifle for a while. Guy on the other end was pretty excited. Mine was from the first year of production (can't remember the year... thank you hydrocodone) and he wanted to make sure I had all the upgrades and to check key areas. they use to use a type of grease that they have learned causes problems.

Short story long... they sent me new stock, firing pins, recoil springs, sights, and many other miscellaneous parts.

then they called me a few days later to see how it went.

turn your nose up at them all you want Dr. Sandman, but I like their business model and the product they make.

 

[Nite Ryder]

I have never been able to make myself buy an ugly gun, no matter how cheap the price. I like almost any gun I've ever seen, but I wouldn't let a Hi Point in my house, and that goes for the person carrying it also.

 

[wgaynor]

So many people that take the low road... Should I be dissapointed? Amazes me how closed minded open minded people are.

 

[Dr. Sandman]

Those guns are ugly, heavy, and unrefined. Remember, there is no disgrace in being poor, but there is no excuse for being dirty. That goes double for guns.

 

[we are not amused]

Laughing like hell at all the stuck up snobs who hate Hi-Point guns!

I don't know if you realize how stupid you all sound, but but you are amusing.

Hi-point guns are probably the best value for the money currently being made.

Are there better guns?, yes, but they all cost a lot more.

If you are looking for something reliable and functional, you can't go wrong with a Hi-Point. If you have other needs, such as concealed carry, ergonomics, or esthetics, you may want to take them into account. And of course, if you are the type who wants to brag about how much money they spent on a gun....

 

[jutinlee]

Thanks for all of the replies.
To clarify the key points made. These will NOT be home defense or carry guns. My idea is just a fun back yard (in the country) shooter. If I bought the group, I'd pass each of the three pistols to my three nephews and teach them each to shoot on their "own" firearms. The carbine would be a plinker for me until I save enough for my AR15 build.
I like the sound of their customer service and I have no qualms with paying for what you get. The way I see it is you don't learn to drive a stick in a 64 Mustang that you just build from the ground up.
They'd be guns to keep around the house for our family weekends "on the range" and letting the kids play with the big boys.
I may make a take-it-or-leave-it offer for the package.
Again, thanks for all the info.

 

[mellon115]

hi point

Just bought my second one a 45 pistol. I already had the 9mm tons of fun to shoot and deadly accurate. Over 200 rounds without an issue. My advice get the mahan after market rear site. Polish the ramp. Adjust the magazine lips. It will take you all of an hour or two and you will have a reliable weapon that goes bang everytime with the best warrenty ever.anyone that says they are weak or blow up watch the youtube videos by the Iraq vet. The supposed hi point just blowing up at random video has been debunked as a fake. Ive owned lots of expensive pistols but none were a better value for the money or as fun to own, work on and shoot. My 2 cents

 

[wannabeagunsmith]

I have a carbine in forty. The thing is a tank, no problems! People might hate on them but you know what not everyone is rich enough to buy an expensive gun! I would have no issues with it as a primary home defense weapon if it were a tad shorter. Get one you won't be sorry!

 

[MedWheeler]

javjacob writes:

Taurus just makes very expensive paper weights if you ask me. I have seen enough of them grenade the cylinder in half that I wouldn't shoot one if I was paid to.

Uh, this is a Hi-Point thread.


(Then, he later posts again):

you get what you pay for

Uh, okay.

 

[javjacob]

do you not? Is a chevy cavalier just as good as a Cadillac just because it will get you from point A to point B?

 

[Schwing]

do you not? Is a chevy cavalier just as good as a Cadillac just because it will get you from point A to point B?

My opinion on this is that there is a huge amount of quality to be had for the first few hundred dollars. Back when I was spending all of my time and money on audio equipment, I heard someone say that 12 inches of speaker quality could be purchased for $400 and that 13 inches of speaker quality could be purchased for $20,000.

I think this applies to many firearms. You certainly can get better quality for more money but the increase in quality gained per dollar decreases drastically the higher you go in price.

 

[jrdolall]

Assuming this is a package deal and you can get all four for $350 then it is definitely a GREAT deal. Individually none of the Hi Point guns is worth $350 USED. The carbine may sell in that range NIB but the pistols are generally less than $200 NIB.

I own 4 HP firearms and all of them are 100% reliable. The pistols(2-C-9s and a 45) were all bought used and somewhat abused while the 9mm carbine was bought NIB. As all actual owners have already stated the pistols are butt ugly and heavy with low capacity for a gun that size. They are actually GOOD shooters with decent sights, decent triggers and minimal recoil due to the weight of the guns. Mine are dead nuts reliable with cheap plinking ammo but I don't ever run JHP through them since I don't carry them so I can't attest to their reliability with SD ammo.

The carbine is fun to shoot and reasonably accurate. I have a flashlight on mine and may eventually move it into a HD role if I continue to shoot it and it continues to be reliable.

 

[Potatohead]

Recently I was at the local gun store when a 45 ACP Hi Point Carbine was delivered.
I asked the manager about it. He said he had three of the rifles in thepast and they were all decent. He didn't like the handguns.

I thought I'd try it out but I wasn't expecting much.

I was surprised. It's a decent, accurate and reliable gun for the price. I think it's a little overboard with the tactical look but it does handle well.

Hilarious!

I was just thinking, I bet M2 has one..hope he'll post a pic so I can see what we're talking about and them BOOM! there it was!

 

[theotherwaldo]

I take the engineer's point of view:
A- Every firearm is a tool;
B- Every tool that does its intended job is good and is thus beautiful;
Therefore,
C- Hi-Points are both good and beautiful.

(Fun, too!)

 

[Dr. Sandman]

I was at my LGS last night. I was thinking about this thread, so I asked to see the Hi Point handguns. I stand by my previous posts. They are heavy, clunky, ugly and crude. The pistols have about three quarters an inch of plastic between the barrel and the base of the front site! They do have a reputation for shooting, as I previously posted. When it comes to the warranty, it may sound good, but it takes time and screwing around. Has anybody here ever tried to ship a handgun? It is a really inconvienent thing to do. The best warranty is the one that you never have to call them on!

Let's face it fellas, shooting is expensive. Your choice of gun is a very personal thing. For me, I would not spend my money on a Hi Point handgun. I would save it and buy something that I liked better. That's not being a snob, I have reasons for not liking them. I wish better guns were available for less money, though.

As for the OP, we still have not heard if it was $350 for one used Hi Point or for all of them. I suspect that it was for just one. Am I right, Jutinlee?

 

[Outlaw Man]

I never had any issues with my .45 pistol. I really didn't put that many rounds through it, though. It's really hard to mess up a blowback action, though some people have been able to do it.

The best description of its ergonomics I've heard is that it's like trying to balance a cinder block on a Styrofoam cup.

 

[jrdolall]

Has anybody here ever tried to ship a handgun? It is a really inconvienent thing to do. The best warranty is the one that you never have to call them on!

I have shipped several firearms back for warranty work. Mossberg, Ruger and Smith & Wesson have all received returns for warranty work. It's not a real hassle if you know the laws and it is a "warranty return". I have actually had to ship two different guns back to S&W for warranty work so "saving and buying a better gun" isn't all it's cracked up to be.
I have a HP C-9 that literally looks like a dog chewed on it and it shoots everything I put in it. They are good guns. They are American made. They are inexpensive, ugly, heavy and reliable.

 

[callenlee]

My first handgun was a C9. I had some issues with failure to eject and failure to feed. I found some info on "tuning" the feed lips on the mag and stopped limp wristing and haven't had a problem with it since. A couple of years later I got a CZ75 P-01 so I don't shoot the HP as much as I used to.

I'd echo the sentiments that they are heavy and fairly reliable. They're not the most aesthetically pleasing gun, but I don't think they're necessarily the ugliest either.

I've never needed their warranty service, but I can't remember ever reading anything bad about it. Most posts about the warranty noted that they would include a free mag for your trouble if you had to send a gun to them. I don't know if they still do that or not.

 

[yzguy87]

A lot of people give them a bad rap but I think they're decent. Shot a 9mm pistol and carbine. I couldn't hit much with the pistol but it was reliable. Carbine was accurate and reliable. I hit what I aimed at out to 50 yards.

 

[SP2000]

I had a 995 carbine. Only issue was 10 round mags and the horrible trigger pull. Must've been around 12# pull.