He was asking $350 as a starting point for the carbine but each of the rest was $150 per. I decided to go ahead and make him on offer for the lot but he sold them yesterday before I got back to him. Got to be honest, I was disappointed to hear they were sold. I had convinced myself to give them a true college try. Live and learn. I'll buy one in the future if the price is right. Thanks for all the feedback. The cheap, American made, aspect makes it appealing to me.
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Deltaboy1984
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My HP 45 is my recliner gun. I have no issues with it. It go's bang every time I pull the trigger.
Kuyong_Chuin
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I agree that the pistols are heavy, crude, and ugly but they are low priced, have a life time warranty no matter if you are the first buyer or the 100th buyer and they are the toughest hand gun to blow up that I know of. Watch all three of the torture test Moss Pawn and Guns Zombie Squad put a hi-point pistol through trying to blow the thing up and couldn't get the job done. Here is the last and the most extreme of the three test. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=2FoWpog5KU4
JBrady555
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Get the carbine. They don't deserve the reputation that the pistols get. I know alot of 1911 snobs at my local club who turn their nose up at a hi point pistol but wont say anything bad about the carbine. They all say that it's a impressive firearm especially for the price.
Arkansas Paul
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I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use a HiPoint carbine as a HD gun. I've had experience with a few of them and they were all good shooters without a single malfunction.
I have shot two of the pistols. While not the best looking or best feeling guns, they too were accurate enough and never once failed.
There will always be those who think that what they have is a cut above what everyone else has. It's like George Carlin said, and I edit for THR:
"Have you noticed that everyone else's stuff is "crap" but your "crap" is stuff?"
That's what it boils down to. Folks are always quick to point out the flaws of something they think they're a little too good to own. Now, when I went handgun shopping, a HiPoint was not on my list, but I was in a position to buy better. If I was dead broke and without a means of protecting myself, I'd buy one in a heartbeat and wouldn't feel one bit inadequate.
SleazyRider
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I wish Hi-Point would redesign their pistols to be more pleasing to the eye and put an end to all of this. Aesthetics seems to be the largest factor that is in question here.
Reminds me of a girl I knew … never mind!
Reminds me of a girl I knew … never mind!
Arkansas Paul
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^ Ha. I've known a few of those.
Get what you like, like what you get. If it makes you happy then buy it. You can always leave them in key spots around the home where you normally would not have a weapon. The price is right.
http://www.slickguns.com/product/hi...atic-45-automatic-colt-pistol-acp-320-shipped
http://www.slickguns.com/product/hi...atic-45-automatic-colt-pistol-acp-320-shipped
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justice06rr
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This is good to know if you want to buy any Hipoints.
Do not pay anything more than $180 for the pistols (more like $160 each), and under $300 for the carbines.
wgaynor
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I have a gunshop here in Owensboro (Second Ammendment) that is very overpriced on everything. they have a hi-point that is over $200. Of course, it'll probably set there for years or until they get a clue...
Anywhoo, most of them go for about $120 here. the rifles go for $200 - $250 used
Anywhoo, most of them go for about $120 here. the rifles go for $200 - $250 used
Jorg Nysgerrig
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The giant slide is necessary for their mode of operation. I don't know how they could redesign something with so much mass to make it look much better.
MedWheeler
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^^ Exactly. If they tried to make it look like, say, a Ruger SR9, it would become more like an SR9, and would be re-priced accordingly.
FROGO207
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When Obama said we needed to get rid of cheap handguns I ordered a dozen of them from my LGS to help Hi Point.
I used them for trainers and the toss it behind the seat in my Jeep and forgetaboutit firearm. Grab it and load when needed and pull trigger as required. It WILL work. When the dust settles I will still be here to laugh about how ugly it is with you all.
You know---------ugly can be beautiful.
I used them for trainers and the toss it behind the seat in my Jeep and forgetaboutit firearm. Grab it and load when needed and pull trigger as required. It WILL work. When the dust settles I will still be here to laugh about how ugly it is with you all.You know---------ugly can be beautiful.
They are ugly. They are big and bulky. They have a lifetime factory warranty. People that actually own and shoot them tend to like them and generally report they function well.
I have a HiPoint pistol in 45acp. It goes bang when I pull the plastic trigger. It does not exhibit target grade accuracy. I paid something like $150 NIB a few years ago. Fun plinker. It is huge compared to a 1911.
I have a HiPoint pistol in 45acp. It goes bang when I pull the plastic trigger. It does not exhibit target grade accuracy. I paid something like $150 NIB a few years ago. Fun plinker. It is huge compared to a 1911.
Mike1234567
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Wow... how attitudes have changed since I bought my first Hi-Point pistols and carbines a few years ago. Mine functioned flawlessly once the mag lips (JHP and .45 carbine) were adjusted a bit. I never had a complaint with any of mine. I have none now but am planning on buying a few to serve as spares and loaners... just in case of a serious natural disaster.
I found 3 HP pistols that I bought from a pawn shop TODAY. A 45 and 2 9mms. They also had a 380 but I passed on it.
The total was $329 for the three. Of course the 45 was all "tactical" and had a high dollar(probably $20) laser attached.
The total was $329 for the three. Of course the 45 was all "tactical" and had a high dollar(probably $20) laser attached.
The Lone Haranguer
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If I understand correctly, he is asking $350 just for the carbine? A new one can be bought for that. Similarly, new Hi-Point pistols run about $150.
As for HP in general, I've shot one of the old-style ("fugly") 9mm carbines and it put a couple of magazinefuls of bullets where I wanted them to go with no malfunctions. Somebody made the comparison to a Chevy Cavalier vs. a Cadillac. Well, lots of people can't afford Cadillacs, but they can afford a Cavalier. It beats walking. Similarly, if all one can afford is a Hi-Point, having one is better than being unarmed. And, if I may digress for a moment, as a professional mechanic who sees them all the time, most major problems with the Cadaver could be prevented with proper maintenance.
As for HP in general, I've shot one of the old-style ("fugly") 9mm carbines and it put a couple of magazinefuls of bullets where I wanted them to go with no malfunctions. Somebody made the comparison to a Chevy Cavalier vs. a Cadillac. Well, lots of people can't afford Cadillacs, but they can afford a Cavalier. It beats walking. Similarly, if all one can afford is a Hi-Point, having one is better than being unarmed. And, if I may digress for a moment, as a professional mechanic who sees them all the time, most major problems with the Cadaver could be prevented with proper maintenance.
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deeptekkie
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Got a High Point pistol. Love it. Tough, extremely accurate and tough as nails, (plus a lifetime warranty).
Mooseman
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The warranty is every bit as good as others have said. I had lost the button cap for the mag release for my 45. I called them up to ask the the price of a replacement. The mag release was in my mailbox a few days later. They didn't even charge me, just asked my name and address and sent it.
Deanimator
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You couldn't pay me to shoot the handguns. Despite all the talk I hear about their "reliability", the ones I've seen at our range were anything but dependable.
Regarding the clumsy, unwieldy nature of the Hi Point pistols, there's a very simple reason for it. Physics doesn't lie. For any practical semi-automatic handgun more powerful than 9x18mm Soviet, you need at least one of the following:
Yeah, a Hi Point pistol is better than no pistol at all, but then so is a Beretta 951 clone, a Walther P-1, a Makarov or a S&W Model 10 revolver, and ALL of them are better than a Hi Point.
Regarding the clumsy, unwieldy nature of the Hi Point pistols, there's a very simple reason for it. Physics doesn't lie. For any practical semi-automatic handgun more powerful than 9x18mm Soviet, you need at least one of the following:
- a locked breech.
- an EXTREMELY massive slide/bolt
- an EXTREMELY heavy recoil/hammer spring.
Yeah, a Hi Point pistol is better than no pistol at all, but then so is a Beretta 951 clone, a Walther P-1, a Makarov or a S&W Model 10 revolver, and ALL of them are better than a Hi Point.
Deanimator
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I suppose they could make it half as high and twice as long. It'd probably end up looking like a giant, single-action Walther MP. I don't know if that'd be an improvement.
MedWheeler
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Deanimator writes:
The people here on THR who speak of the make's reliability are far more likely to actually know how to shoot and handle them, as many of us had a lot of handgun experience before acquiring a Hi-Point. That means we know about proper grip and "limp-wristing."
Those people showing up on your range, I'd be willing to bet, are relative newcomers, and their Hi-Point guns are probably among the first guns they've owned.
I'd also be willing to bet that you could be paid to shoot one. And, I'd bet that you'd likely shoot it just fine, and that it would perform better in your hands than in those of most of the people in whose hands you claim they would not function.
The people here on THR who speak of the make's reliability are far more likely to actually know how to shoot and handle them, as many of us had a lot of handgun experience before acquiring a Hi-Point. That means we know about proper grip and "limp-wristing."
Those people showing up on your range, I'd be willing to bet, are relative newcomers, and their Hi-Point guns are probably among the first guns they've owned.
I'd also be willing to bet that you could be paid to shoot one. And, I'd bet that you'd likely shoot it just fine, and that it would perform better in your hands than in those of most of the people in whose hands you claim they would not function.
I have handed one of my C-9s to plenty of seasoned handgun owners and had them run a couple of mags through. EVERY ONE OF THEM has come away impressed with how this $100 pistol feels and fires. Of course it's too heavy but it does shoot quite well.
None of them are trading in their Kimbers for a HP but none of them hand it back disgusted with how the gun performs either.
None of them are trading in their Kimbers for a HP but none of them hand it back disgusted with how the gun performs either.
FROGO207
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It all comes down to "you get what you pay for". Paying for an inexpensive semi auto that works lots better than expected is a good thing IMHO. I spent a good bit more for a Heritage Rough Rider in 32 H&R mag and was NOT impressed with what I got. Neither one was the quality I would expect from a $500+ firearm but the price did reflect my expectations.
FWIW most High Point feed issues are the feed lips on the MAG and they work well forever after when adjusted slightly.
FWIW most High Point feed issues are the feed lips on the MAG and they work well forever after when adjusted slightly.
Deanimator
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"The people here on THR who speak of the make's reliability are far more likely to actually know how to shoot and handle them, as many of us had a lot of handgun experience before acquiring a Hi-Point. That means we know about proper grip and "limp-wristing."
And yet I HAVEN'T seen those sorts of problems, with everything from Glocks to M1911s to Makarovs.
As I said, it's better than NO gun, but NOT better than a P-1 or a Makarov, and DEFINITELY not even in the same ballpark as the ex-NYPD S&W M&P that I got from R.M. Vivas (WITH HOLSTER) for about the same price. That gun's missing large patches of its finish, is slick as glass and utterly reliable.
And yet I HAVEN'T seen those sorts of problems, with everything from Glocks to M1911s to Makarovs.
As I said, it's better than NO gun, but NOT better than a P-1 or a Makarov, and DEFINITELY not even in the same ballpark as the ex-NYPD S&W M&P that I got from R.M. Vivas (WITH HOLSTER) for about the same price. That gun's missing large patches of its finish, is slick as glass and utterly reliable.
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