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I am considering the purchase of a 9mm pistol made by this company
The price seems ok at $365, with two factory magazines and the gun seems to be in good condition with mostly cosmetic wear
My concern is that (as I understand it) the company is out of business
I don’t own a lot of guns and would be buying this as a long-term ccw. If it fails would I be able to find parts or obtain needed repairs?
I like a lot about this gun. Would appreciate thoughts on this- am I overthinking this or concerned without a good basis?
Many thanks
 
No way I would buy it, a defunct company that was barely in business long enough to hear about their name.

If you want a value firearm get a PSA glock clone, takes Glock parts and patterned magazines and comes with PSA's lifetime warranty. No worries about sourcing parts and magazines are as cheap as pistol magazines can get, with many options on capacities.

$409, RMR cut slide, 10 magazines and a pistol rug.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...-barrel-pistol-w-10-17rd-magazines-black.html
 
PSA had the same type pistol for about $369 a week or two ago. But even at $409 with what you get is a good deal.
 
You can buy SCCY pistols all day long for that price and they've a well established (and ongoing) business.
 
@drband are you sure that the Savage Stance is in fact the old Honor Guard? There were thoughts of this to be the case, but I haven't seen any confirmation. Savage website only lists the Stance, no Honor Guard. The link you posted just shows Guns.com selling the Honor Guard.
 
To the OP, if this would be a carry handgun, I would recommend against it. I own a couple of Honor Guard’s Honor Defense handguns for range use. The design- as I understand and from examining the internals - is based on the Sig P320. Unfortunately for Honor Guard their design is not reliably drop safe, mimicking the early P320 problems; and the smaller company didn’t have a financial margin to make corrections and withstand lawsuits.

One of mine is drop safe, while the other isn’t based on the whack-on-the-slide-with-a-rubber-mallet test.

There are many tried & true options today of similar handguns. The Honor Defense is practically the same outline & width as the original S&W Shield, for example.

Best of luck to you in picking your carry gun!
 
Fat Boy said:
I am considering the purchase of a 9mm pistol made by this company. The price seems ok at $365
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The price is "meh" for what it is. You can get a Taurus G3C, new, with 3 magazines for that.

My concern is that (as I understand it) the company is out of business
I don’t own a lot of guns and would be buying this as a long-term ccw.
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Who covers warranty repair? Even if someone does, would they warranty someone who wasn't the original owner?

If Savage covers it, well and good. Move on the functional questions.

Would appreciate thoughts on this- am I overthinking this or concerned without a good basis?
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There's lots of guns in the single stack small 9mm category. Lots of guns in that category with solid reputations, still supported by their manufacturers.
 
Honor Defense was based in my town. Seemed to be a solution in search of a problem type of gun. The only unique thing was their model with a built in muzzle stand-off. Other than that, it was just not a compelling product. I’m not sure the local gun stores ever stocked them. Pricing was not very competitive for what they were. Savage purchased rights as a way of getting back in the handgun business. I still don’t see them in stores.
 
One might consider the value of one's life. If a fellow wants to put a $ limit on a carry gun, say $300-$400, how long would it take to save up another $200-$300 so that he could buy a respected American or European brand? In the world of engineered and manufactured things, cheap isn't always the best way to go. One additional thought, if ones ccw piece fails during use, the question of repair may be moot.
 
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TUnfortunately for Honor Guard their design is not reliably drop safe, mimicking the early P320 problems; and the smaller company didn’t have a financial margin to make corrections and withstand lawsuits.
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I remember when this went down. They didn't own up to the problem, and that never works out.
 
I wouldn't buy that or the Savage Stance, even though I'd agree that it appears to be the same pistol with some frame and moulding changes.
gscrasher said:
One might consider the value of one's life. If a fellow wants to put a $ limit on a carry gun, say $300-$400, how long would it take to save up another $200-$300 so that he could buy a respected American or European brand? In the world of engineered and manufactured things, cheap isn't always the best way to go.
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Your point is valid, but it's not a 200-300 dollar difference. For 100 more dollars you can get a Glock, SA, M&P- any number of much better guns than this hi-point styled thing with possible drop-safe issues. The fact Savage picked them up says more about the disposability of some of these carry pistols and their desire to profit from a market they have no real place in.
 
I agree with the guys above, even a police trade in M&P or Glock from AIM Surplus would be the route I went before chancing an out-of-production Honor Defense branded ccw pistol.

Good luck with your search. Selecting a ccw pistol is a gun not to rush into. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
I've got one from when they first came out. It is as well made as any gun I have owned, all the fit and finish are first rate, inside and out. Trigger is very good and accuracy is excellent for a pistol it's size. I have never had any kind of problem whatsoever. All that being said, I wouldn't get one now with no parts or support available.
 
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