Hornady One shot User Poll Stuck or Not?

[AnselHazen]

This is my story and I'm sticking to it.


http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=795247

 

[higgite]

I wish we could figure out why some have such trouble with One Shot.

Same here. I know everyone says they follow the directions on the can to a tee, but I have to ask. Do you folks who don't like the stuff shake it up well before using it? I know rattling the can for a full minute gets a little annoying, but I grit my teeth and do it and I've had no stuck cases, save the time I didn't follow directions and wait for it to dry. It's a mystery to me why it works for some folks and not for others.

 

[THe Dove]

I've used one shot for rifle cases and pistol cases for 22 years now. Works fine. However, my favorite bottle neck case lube is RCBS case lube.

I also use it (One Shot) for sizing raw cast bullets in my Lee push through sizer die. Just spray a little one shot on the raw boolits and then size away. It really makes the process a lot easier. JMHO

The Dove

 

[stoky]

I was running low on Dillon lube, so I picked up a bottle of One Shot at the LGS (ostensibly a Dillon dealer ). I haven't tried it yet. I'd probably use Imperial wax for heavy duty stuff anyhow.
Any recommendation for the lanolin/alcohol ratio?

 

[Tuxedo007]

I'm not surprised by the poll numbers. Based on other threads about using it there seems to be a wide range of success. I've never had a problem, and it appears carefully following the directions helps reduce problems. But it appears there are better products. When I use up what I have I'll try something else.

Have used One Shot for many years without sticking a case, either bottleneck rifle or straight walled pistol. I follow the directions on the can to the letter! I even clean & spray the inside of the sizing die. I ALWAYS allow it to dry before using!

I will say, that the last couple of cans I used did not seem to give the level of lubrication I was used to, i.e., it seemed that more effort was necessary to resize the bottle neck rifle cases. Perhaps a change in formulation has occurred?!

Since I've switched to a wet cleaning method of brass, I will probably go back to the RCBS in the bottle or Imperial.

 

[25-5]

The poll should ask stuck or not.
So dropping non users. 70.3% have no issue.

 

[Handloader109]

I've stuck 22tcm cases using it. Gone back to Lee because I have a bunch and I'm cheap.

 

[greyling22]

Didn't work very well for me at all when used on a 223. Works pretty well for lightly coating 9mm and 30 carbfor easier operation in a progressive.

Unique though, works awesome for rifles.

 

[Master Blaster]

Out of the folks who posted a comment I count 7 who have stuck a case but are unwilling to blame one shot instead defending it and saying it was their fault for not following directions or it was a fluke. So I will add 7 to the stuck a case and subtract 7 from the no issues count.
I stuck three .223 cases before I learned my lesson and threw the can I bought in the trash. That was about 3000 .223 and 2000 .308 rounds ago. I used Dillon lube with no stuck cases before trying one shot and Imperial since with zero stuck cases.

 

[Grump]

Like USSR, I really have not gotten a case stuck with One Shot aerosol spray, but it was talking to me in the die before I got it stuck.

I do not remember exactly but I usually read and follow instructions, at least for the first use of anything. I tried several permutations and could never get it to work but I never tried putting the cases in a box, spraying the snot out of them, and then shaking the box around.

This method works well with lanolin/alcohol and Dillon spray lube.

I think I have a bottle of the Hornady spritz spray lube but I have not tried it yet.

I've used lanolin/alcohol with 204 Ruger and 223 Remington cases with good results. I've been hesitant to try it with 308 Winchester or 30-06.

This.

Yes, I stuck a case with One Shot. Was NOT diligent in shaking the can. Was NOT diligent in rolling the cases over and making sure the lube was all around. Did NOT pay attention to NOTICE that I had sprayed propellant on with very little to no actual product deposited...you can tell just by looking because they no longer look "moist".

Since then, never a problem. I grew up rolling cases on a stamp pad, gooey RCBS lube, played with a friend's Lee lube-the white stuff and it IS truly slick, done RCBS & Dillon alcohol & lanolin sprays, but went back to the Hornady One Shot.

My conclusion is that One Shot is *easier* to mis-use. But like mentioned above, the case WILL talk to you before it really gets stuck.

And I don't even wait a full minute before sizing bottleneck cases with OS. IME, it's ready to rock and roll as soon as it's on there. But it's easy to not notice that the shoulder is well lubed but the last 3/4-inch towards the casehead is not lubed.

Good lighting is your friend.

I love not needing to worry about lube bumps on the shoulders, too.

 

[higgite]

Sitting in my dining room during the Blizzard it occurred to me that we need a scientific analysis based upon a poll to see if One Shot works great or guarantees a stuck case to those who use it so please vote.

Out of the folks who posted a comment I count 7 who have stuck a case but are unwilling to blame one shot instead defending it and saying it was their fault for not following directions or it was a fluke. So I will add 7 to the stuck a case and subtract 7 from the no issues count.

If that ain't scientific, I don't know what is.

 

[Poper]

Hey, each to his own.
Probably 95% of my loading is bottle neck rifle cases from .300 WSM to .222 Remington and in small batches. It's a hobby for me and neither time nor quantity are an issue. I like the Imperial sizing was because it takes so little and lasts a heck of a long time. (I just started my second tin. The first one lasted 10 years+.) And exactly zero stuck cases using the stuff.

Now, if I could just remember where I put that stuck case removal tool....

 

[Gtscotty]

I don't know how to vote on tapatalk, but I use one shot and have not stuck a case. I use it mostly on .473 head cases, and line them up in a spiral on a plate and spray liberally, turn the plate 90 degrees and repeat.

Lately I've been using a spray on product called Brass Butter, it works well, and, like OS doesn't foul primers or powder.

 

[jmorris]

Stuck one with one shot myself, guess it would be OK for pistol cases though.

 

[eldon519]

What has worked really well for me is to not spray the cases but to instead spray the inside of a large ziplock freezer bag and then rub the bag around from the outside until the lube is well spread thru the bag and then let the bag dry. Then I toss in all my brass, seal the bag, and massage it throrughly from the outside to get good coverage on the brass. I always reuse the same bag, so it just builds up more and more lube inside. If I were to start from a fresh bag, I would make sure to give it an extra heavy spraying. I tried using boxes and rolling them around and so forth but just never got sufficient lube coverage doing it that way. I also don't like to actually directly spray the cases in the bag itself because I got a few duds where seemingly lube pooled inside the a few cases and did not dry and then contaminated the powder charge.

 

[USSR]

Any recommendation for the lanolin/alcohol ratio?

12:1 (HEET:Lanolin). The red bottle HEET consists of 99% isopropyl alcohol, and is MUCH easier to find than 99% isopropyl alcohol at a pharmacy. Don't use the commonly available 91% isopropyl alcohol, as there is too much water in it and the mixture will not stay in suspension.

Don

 

[azar]

USSR,

Thanks for the tip about HEET. That's good to know, but any idea what the other 1% "Proprietary Additive" is (according to the MSDS sheet)? That would be my main concern with using the red bottled HEET.

You can find Isopropyl Alcohol, 99% at Amazon.com along with 100% Pure Liquid Lanolin.

I haven't tried this yet but was curious about the mix ratio. I had heard originally to use 10:1 but you suggest 12:1. Have you tried other ratios? What made you settle on 12:1?

Thanks.

 

[horsemen61]

Never stuck any regular brass with it I did stick one nickel 3006 once though

 

[USSR]

azar,

No idea what the 1% is, but it's of no consequence as it works just fine. The reason I settled on 12:1 was convenience. The HEET bottle contains 12 ounces and the lanolin bottle contains 4 ounces. I make equally spaced marks on the lanolin bottle and pour out 1/4 of the 4 ounce bottle and add it to a full bottle of HEET. It is the best lube I've ever used, and I'm a long time user of Imperial Sizing Die Wax.

Don

 

[azar]

USSR,

Do you have to keep off/clean off lube from the neck and shoulders to prevent denting the case like you do with traditional lubes?

 

[USSR]

Nope. I put the brass in a plastic box, give them 4 or 5 sprays, roll them around in the box and then resize them. You don't even have to wait for them to dry before resizing.

Don

 

[AnselHazen]

I ordered Lanolin last night.

 

[300Whspr]

Where do you find lanolin? What brand/type/etc???

 

[VINTAGE-SLOTCARS]

I have done thousands of .223 without problems.

 

[azar]

300Whspr,

I posted a link to 100% liquid lanolin from Amazon.com a few posts above yours. It is said some pharmacies carry it as well. The local Rite-Aid did not and the lady showing me where the Lanolin was ended up taking me to the breast feeding supplies...