lemaymiami
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A lot of years ago I did work with some guys who’d rather “liberate” stuff than fill out any forms... but I was a lot younger then. Ever notice how you could guess what a guy did - by the gear they carried?
How do soldiers carry extra shotgun ammo?
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ApacheCoTodd
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There was a time when we were sort of a *pet* unit to a particular USAF organization and the Crew Chiefs would ask us upon loading to please take the items from the box on the tailgate and leave the installed items on the aircraft.
We'd leave them knives, flashlights, signal mirrors, illumination and the like and grab their first-aid kits, survival items and on-board flashlights which once you covered them with duct tape (100 mile-an-hour-tape) were better than the Army issued units.
It was a wonderful and mutually beneficial arrangement.
Todd.
22250Rem
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......Was also commonly know as "Special Order".It was a wonderful and mutually beneficial arrangement.
kBob
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During the oil embargo in the early 1970's there was a fare amount of "inappropriate re purposing of fuel" in units near where my unit was billeted. Our host unit insisted we refuel at our own fuel pumps 60k in the rear and yet insisted that our pass truck driving those 60k could not leave their gate with out 1/2 tank of fuel and a full jerry can. They then got upset if we carried extra jerry cans from our pumps not in the strap downs on the truck and we needed more cans than there were strapdowns for. Our pass truck had, according to our motor daddy in the rear about 40% greater gas mileage than one would have expected based on the Odometer readings and his fuel log book. Oddly enough the units near ours all had reductions in vehicle mileage. Isn't that odd? Mileage got better in those units once their motor parks had the guard doubled and the Officer of the day basically being head quartered in the motor park.
The host unit finally decided to allow us to fuel at their pumps once the jerry cans on their duty vehicles such as the CO's jeep and duty ambulance parked in front of the actual HQ lost their Jerry cans and JP3 supposedly in storage for special turbine generators started turning up missing and our five ton multifuel truck started running very hot!
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The host unit finally decided to allow us to fuel at their pumps once the jerry cans on their duty vehicles such as the CO's jeep and duty ambulance parked in front of the actual HQ lost their Jerry cans and JP3 supposedly in storage for special turbine generators started turning up missing and our five ton multifuel truck started running very hot!
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I am not a soldier but I've found milsurp belt pouches handy for casual carry in the woods or at the range. These polish surplus grenade pouches can hold up to 40 (or more comfortably, 20) shells and they're rugged and inexpensive. they even have handy dividers for separating slugs, birdshot and buckshot:
22250Rem
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Don't know how the military does it nowadays but I picked up a couple good size fanny packs on sale years ago at Midway USA. Wear one so it's on my right hip while shooting sporting clays. At each station it's easy to reach in and grab two rounds and they are big enough to carry at least 75 rounds of 12 ga. target loads with ease.
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entropy
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It's evident you don't reload those....
amd6547
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I found an Eagle Ind. GI molle belt pouch, made to hold ten shells, pretty cheap on eBay.
Apparently, its current issue.
Very well made of coyote tan nylon.
Apparently, its current issue.
Very well made of coyote tan nylon.
mustanger98
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The buckle looks like M1910, but the rest of the belt looks to me like 1890's.
The brass shotshells are still made... seem to be marketed more towards SASS/CAS competitors. MidwayUSA sells Magtech's offering for handloaders.
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Shanghai McCoy
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AKA- "cumshaw" in the Navy...
DocRock
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AKA- "cumshaw" in the Navy...
And "cappabar" in the Royal Navy
ApacheCoTodd
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Is that an actual Navy-ism? those crack me up.AKA- "cumshaw" in the Navy...
I went to Jump School and we had due to rank, a Marine as our floor sgt and he adamantly refused to not use Navy-speak and I equally adamantly refused to understand. The Cadre Commander thought the communications conflict was greatly entertaining for him.
Kinda cracked us up too.
"Scuttle-what?"
Todd.
Shanghai McCoy
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Yep, "cumshaw" is an old Navy term dating back to the 1800's. Not sure if they use it nowadays but it sorta meant you traded/bribed someone outside the normal supply channel for what you needed/wanted.
amd6547
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This is the molle pouch I got on eBay. Nice compact pouch for ten shells.
lemaymiami
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Those small 10 round pouches all look very good to me... The problem for a street cop (or anyone that's not geared up for action in advance...) is that 99% of the time your gear is secured out of sight - but when you need it - the house is on fire... That's why I came up with those old cloth bandoliers... You can grab one sling it across your shoulders and you're ready to go. Something that's attached to a battle harness or needs to be belted into position wasn't much use to anyone that might have a sudden need for extra ammo that you grab -then sprint to get where you're needed... At least that's my take on it...
ApacheCoTodd
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I could never feature actually carrying a slotted or individually-secured-round type container in combat including on-board holders excepting when the opportunity came up to carry a couple-few rounds in the stock so they wouldn't snag anything.
We had scoured the pawn shops around Ft Bragg before surplus went through the roof in search of WWII & WWI 12g a. bandoleers. Carried one ONCE in a training scenario and never looked at them again. Went back to bulk loads when it got *dusty*.
The bandoleers looked cool and in the right scenario may play-out well but for us? Not a chance.
Todd.
lemaymiami
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And that’s exactly what I found out about most open style bandoliers. They allow your spare rounds to get filthy and start degrading in short order. I’ll have to take a pic of my set up and post it up...
Please do, not sure why I originally didn't think of LEO since they gotta use shotguns in tactical situations too. Come to think of it they probably have the more realistic set up for transferring to my situation.
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Glad this subject being batted about. I only have an old plain jane 500 and have wondered how to keep extra rounds handy. I'll try one of those one of those ten round pouches on a nylon belt or something.
lemaymiami
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Here's a few pics of that bandolier I've set up.. This is a new "surplus" bandolier - the ones I was familiar with in 1971 were made of much thinner material... At any rate they're available, last I checked, on E-Bay...
The first pic is how the bandolier is stored in a plain plastic bag....
The second shows the bandolier loaded up and coiled for compactness
This pic shows it laid out with four of the seven pockets shown as well as the carry strap (note how a standard five shot box fits perfectly
This pic show the bandolier with the cloth closure pulled away to reveal the contents... This bandolier is not set up for use containing sealed boxes only... for the street I remove the bottom of each box then reload the box into the pocket. In use you simply pull the cardboard box leaving five rounds that were clearly identified to you - ready to go...
The first pic is how the bandolier is stored in a plain plastic bag....
The second shows the bandolier loaded up and coiled for compactness
This pic shows it laid out with four of the seven pockets shown as well as the carry strap (note how a standard five shot box fits perfectly
This pic show the bandolier with the cloth closure pulled away to reveal the contents... This bandolier is not set up for use containing sealed boxes only... for the street I remove the bottom of each box then reload the box into the pocket. In use you simply pull the cardboard box leaving five rounds that were clearly identified to you - ready to go...
I've seen you reference that setup multiple times - glad to finally see a picture of it!
So when you store them like that do they stay in the box when you dip in for a fresh "clip" or do they all tumble out into the bandolier pocket?
lemaymiami
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They drop into the pouch and, as usual with a pump shotgun you then load them one at a time as needed. The whole idea was to keep each round brand new until needed with the added benefit of being able to know exactly what you were feeding your weapon ... buck, slug, flite control, etc.
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