Possum Hollow and Giraurd and Gracey:
Loves beer, good question, I have covered this before, I have a M1917 Eddystone chambered in 30/06, lucky for the rifle, if not for me the rifle would have fallen in to that black hole of reloaders misunderstanding. My Eddystone has .016 thousands head space, again, not a problem, I determine head space first, that is I determine the length of the chamber from the bolt face to the shoulder of the chamber.
This is possible because I did not start out as a “FIRE FORMER”, I started out as a case former. All I need to form cases to fit is to find cases that are too long, for the 30/06 family of chambers there is the 280 Remington, the 280 Remington is .051 thousands longer than the 30/06 from the head of the case to it shoulder, that information is not even nice to know to a fire former/reloader but to a case former the extra length from the head of the case to the shoulder is a ‘CAN NOT MISS’ when forming cases for long chambers.
When determining the length of the chamber before firing I adjust the die off the shell holder with feeler gages, a good number would be .010 thousands, after forming the case should chamber but with my M1917 the case chamber, the bolt closed without effort, so, I went the other direction, I increased the gap and formed another case, I adjusted the gap to .015 thousands and still the bolt closed, and then I went to .016 thousands, the bolt closed with slight resistance, this number gave me the length of the chamber from the bolt face to the shoulder, meaning I used (NEW) 280 Remington cases formed to 30/06 with an additional .014 thousands added to the length of the case between the head of the case and shoulder. (keeping up with two thoughts at the same time) I want my case to cover the chamber, if I mindlessly trim my cases to book specification my cases would not cover the chamber, so when trimming I add the .014 to the length of the case when trimming from the shoulder to the mouth of the case.
For most on the Internet the Wilson case gage is a second class drop in gage, the ability of the Wilson case gage is limited by the reloader using it and their lack of reading comprehension skills. The Wilson case gage measures the case from the shoulder back to the head of the case AND from the shoulder forward to the mouth of the case, when measuring cases formed to chamber in my M1917 with a Wilson case gage I have .014 thousands protruding from one and and nothing from the other, and that answers your question, it is not the failure of the Wilson case gage or the Gracey etc. trimmer, the reloader can become a reloader by purchasing a press, die and shell holder with a few related tools to become a reloader, after that they can chamber a round, fire and then eject the fired case to become a fire former, I choose to form first then fire, the difference? I do not get immediate gratification, fire formers get fire formed case, Me? I get once fired cases, because I determine the length of the chamber first.
Possum Hollow and Giraurd and Gracey: I have the Dillon and Gracey, not a problem but the case holders for each case get’s expensive.
http://www.dillonprecision.com/#/co.../23636/Dillon_s_Rapid_Trim_1200B_Case_Trimmer
http://www.matchprep.com/trimmer.htm
F. Guffey