How good are the Howa bolt rifles?
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Uncle Mike
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Lopenzi...who makes the Vanguard?
Still trash in my mind, all it was: expansive walking stick, glad I got rid of it, now I can punch .25" 5 shot holes with my TC, which came with 0.56" certificate of accuracy, not bad for a riffle, but more expensive then Howa, I do believe that I got a lemon slip, since so many people are happy with them, after all I didn't wait for legacy sports to fix the problem, I just walked away... When I purchased Howa, it had everything what I was looking for, except for the accuracy....
Uncle Mike
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We used to sell the Howa brand in droves, but after a rash of problems with that brand, management decided against carrying this brand.
We still order them for those who want them.
My take on the Howa is it is a good enough firearm, but increasing prices are negating the brands worthiness!
We still order them for those who want them.
My take on the Howa is it is a good enough firearm, but increasing prices are negating the brands worthiness!
454c
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This is the first I've heard of a " rash of problems", what were the problems?
Shadow Man
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What about Howa/Axiom's? Any word on those?
In your price range I'd also look at the Marlin center fire rifles. They are very accurate and good rifles for the money. And, in answer to your question, I've never heard anything bad about Howa. I think Legacy is a fine company.
This is the first I've heard of a " rash of problems", what were the problems?
My Howa had mest-up riffling in the barrel so the whole barrel had to be replaced, it was punching 6" - 12" 5 shot groups at 100 yards.
Just like I mentioned before: "I didn't wait for legacy sports to fix the problem, I just walked away..." I asked for my money back, got TC ICON PH instead...
Uncle Mike
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Let's see, there were the trigger problems that resulted from shoddily ground sears, then the ever popular barrel crowns that were slanted, the barrels not square with the receivers, by a lot, not your normal stuff...then we had the safety engagement problems, the extractor issues, but in all fairness, what manufacturer has not had this problem. Then the sloppy bolt raceways, there for a couple years it was scary. John says not to forget the crooked scope mount holes also.
Now, Howa isn't doing so bad.
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
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Howas / Vanguards are pretty good. Typically very good accuracy; decent fit & finish.
Only problem with them is that the safety doesn't work if you adjust the trigger to the far end of the "good" spectrum. To make matters worse, even then, the trigger is still pretty poor/mediocre.
Still, they are a pretty good value for the price.
Only problem with them is that the safety doesn't work if you adjust the trigger to the far end of the "good" spectrum. To make matters worse, even then, the trigger is still pretty poor/mediocre.
Still, they are a pretty good value for the price.
Maverick223
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No experience with the Howa (Vanguards are pretty nice though), but I have a rifle that costs in the neighborhood of about 10x as much as the Howa, and it does the same thing. Not a big deal for me (but I can get mine down to about 1lb, don't know the cut-off for the Howa).
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Which one Mav?
Maverick223
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Desert Tactical SRS .300WM; when I adjust it to get every bit of creep out, and lighten it past a pound or so the safety will no longer engage.
jimmyraythomason
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I have got to be the LUCKIEST sonuvagun in the world! Since I've been on this forum,I have learned that every gun I own is a piece of junk or garbage or trash. I've learned that my lube/cleaner is equal to using varnish. That my scopes are useless and that my Rugers are inaccurate,my Tauruses and Rossis are about to fall apart. That my M1 carbine is a peashooter and worthless as a manstopper. Any number of bad things BUT I have not personally experienced any(or practically none) of the maladys that others have experienced. I think I'll go buy a few lotto tickets.
Uncle Mike
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No fret...the Howa's have been good for the last year or so, seen no problems other than some complaining about finish related stuff.
If you do many forums, you'll come to see the only firearms that are any good are the ones the guy posting has...everything else is...well, you said it, junk! lol
If you do many forums, you'll come to see the only firearms that are any good are the ones the guy posting has...everything else is...well, you said it, junk! lol
jimmyraythomason
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I thought I was just very lucky! I guess I better hold off on those lottery tickets for a while longer.
jimmyraythomason
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DIM,I'll haul off that junk for you.
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
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Yikes. Well that's acceptable from a Howa, but unacceptable from a DT SRS, I'd say. :-/
Now that's funny right there.
Shadow Man
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So no word on the Howa/Axiom?
Maverick223
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It doesn't really bother me (because it gets pretty light), but perhaps I should give them a call and see if I am missing something when I make adjustments or if it is a known issue which there is a solution for. I certainly wouldn't consider the ability to go lighter a bad thing.
Arkansas Paul
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I love my .30-06 Vangaurd. Sub MOA at 100 yds, great trigger, smooth action. I've shot more expensive rifles that I wouldn't trade it for. Best $400 I've ever spent on a firearm.
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