How Gun Owners Can Take Back The Senate

Status
Not open for further replies.
Joined
Dec 26, 2002
Messages
14,613
Location
Texas
In 1994, the Senate voted to pass Feinstein's amendment banning semi-autos 56-43. In 2004, they voted again to renew it 52-47. In ten years, we gained four votes on this important RKBA issue in the Senate. It is progress; but slow progress.

This November, there are 7 critical Senate races where gun owners face a clear choice between a candidate who supports our rights and a candidate who opposes us and favors more bans. We could have a pro-RKBA majority in both the Senate and the House. With a pro-RKBA President (or at least one who hasn't vetoed anything in four years), we could actually pass some repeals. We could gain more pro-RKBA votes in this one election than we have in the last ten years; but first we have to get out and vote and put pro-gun candidates in office.

South Dakota - WIN
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: +1
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: 0

Candidates:
John Thune (R) - GOA B rated. Opposes renewal of ban.
Tom Daschle (D) - GOA F rated. Supported ban renewal in March.

Status: Thune leads by 6,000 votes with 58% reporting

Washington - Loss
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: +1
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: 0

Candidates:
George Nethercutt (R) - GOA A- rated. Opposes renewal of ban.
Patty Murray (D) - GOA F rated. Supported Kennedy Ammo ban, semiauto ban, and federal approval of private sales in March.

Status: Murray has a 3-2 spending advanatge on Nethercutt. He faces a hard fight; but he can win. His campaign could use some money to help offset Murray's edge as an incumbent though. Now 19 points down and falling [:(]

Colorado - Loss
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: 0
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: -1

Candidates:
Pete Coors (R) - No rating from GOA; but the candidate participate in the "I'm the NRA" ad many years ago. He is also on record in the Rocky Mountain News as opposing the ban as well as supporting a repeal of the Lautenberg Amendment, Brady Bill, 1968 GCA and 1934 NFA. All words so far; but some pretty bold words.
Ken Salazar (D) - GOA D rated. Opposes ban renewal and signed MMM pledge card.

Status: Coors loses by 2 points in a close fought race. I hope he runs again for office. We could definitely use him.

South Carolina- WIN
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: +1
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: 0

Candidates:
Jim Demint (R) - GOA A rated (and GOA rates very few politicians as A), opposes ban
Inez Tenebaum (D) - No rating, former state education secretary, supports ban.

Status: Clear win. Opponent conceded

Louisiana- WIN
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: +1
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: 0 (likely guess as it would depend on which Democrat won)

Candidates:
David Vitter (R) - GOA A- rated.
John Kennedy (D), Chris John (D), Arthur Morrel (D) - no info

Status: Vitter has 51% of the vote with 100% reporting. No runoff.

Florida - WINNING
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: +1
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: 0

Candidates:
Mel Martinez (R) - On record opposing ban renewal
Betty Castor (D) - On record supporting Brady Campaign and ban renewal.

Status: Martinez ahead by 80,000 votes with 100% reporting; but recounts and absentee/provisional ballots likely.

North Carolina - WIN
Pro-gun change to March vote if Republican wins: +1
Pro-gun change to March vote if Democrat wins: 0

Richard Burr (R) - GOA B- rated. Opposes ban.
Erskine Bowles (D) - GOA F rated, former Clinton Chief of Staff.

Status: Clear win. Opponent conceded.

+4 pro-RKBA
 
Last edited:
You forgot Arkansas.

Blanche Lincoln voted for the AWB renewal.

She is running against Jim Holt.

But it looks like Holt is in an uphill battle.

hillbilly
 
Everytime I see a thread like this, I am reminded of how strong we can be if we work POLITICALLY within the system to change it....

Rather than waste time and bandwidth on namecalling crap like "sheeple" and "waht ya gonna do when the jbt ome to rape our wives and take our guns", or debating Waco or Ruby Ridge, this is the type of thread we should be promoting and taking to heart....

WildsnideAlaska
 
hey now. that sounds an awful lot like getting off my fat rear end and actually doing something instead of just tapping the keyboard and clicking the mouse.
 
Sounds like a challenge and reply

Alaska gonna see a Ken vs. Spiffy primary race for some small forgotten political office in the near future?

There is a scattering of different threads on the board right now.

Few of my thoughts on action.


A national CCW will empower the federal govt to keep track of your name in the context of a registered gun owner.
Is that what we deserve?
The 2nd amendment is the original permit to carry any gun any way we choose. Giving the fed govt more authority over allowing Alice Victoria Temple or banning this individual because of some other person by the same name in another part of the country or even the world. This is happening today at your local major airport.
@ the federal level we could have full pre-emption on any law restricting gun ownership. Forced recognition of other states permit system. 218 did this for LEO.
There are points we can make in our favor in repeals and in proactive moves at the federal level.
This is a fight that will continue. If you think it's all over after Nov 2 you will get what you deserve.
I keep repeating on this board and others.
! RUN FOR OFFICE !
I think I am getting loud on this point because circumstance dictates that I am not able to myself.

Entire GCA 1968

Anything else is just another compromise.

_________________________________________________________
lotts of work
We will collectively need to work a lot of hours communicating in many ways and means, with all flavors of cival posts. It'll take active citizen input and activism.
Run for office. Work through November and start worrying about 06 and 08.
Do you know what you want at the federal level? I do.
A national pre-emption on states and cities from restrictive laws.
Protection from prosecution for protecting life and property.
A whole lot of laws on the federal level repealed.
On the far edge of legislation; Require all states recognise and honor state permits of every type.


_________________________________________________________
 
Allright Florida Boys, (and Girls) get the word out to your friends to vote Mr. Martinez into office. Make sure to write Mr. Martinez NOW and let him know where his support is coming from and why. Then keep writing him, should he get elected.

As much as I hate to, I am going to do it again. I am going to choose the "lesser of two evils" this November. I don't care for Mr. Bush one bit, but the thought of John Kerry in the Oval Office makes me shudder. My youthful, idealistic pride will suffer for this, and I might just spew on my ballot, but I guess it must be done. What other choice do we have?

I will go on record and say this though. The next four years will be the test for the Grand 'Ole Party. Should Mr. Bush hold on to the Whitehouse, I expect some progress in our battle for gun rights. If not, I will never vote for another candidate because he is the "lesser of two evils" (usually "R") again. I will write the president (or whoever reads his mail...)and let him (them) know that this is the case.
 
Don't forget EJ Pipkin is runnig against Barbara Mikulski in Maryland......this would at least give us a 50/50 pro gun vote in Maryland
 
Wisconsin-

Republican Tim Michels is challenging Russ Feingold.

Michels is pretty new to the politics arena, but claims to be solidly pro-gun, of course it doesn't take a whole lot to be more pro gun than feingold.

Feingold is heavily entrenched in Wisconsin and has alot in his campaign chest, but Michels has a ton of personal wealth and has a wide open attack on Feingold with the patriot act, whom Feingold was I believe the lone desenter on. Michels is a former Army Ranger officer and has alot more credibility on defense issues.
 
Duly noted, token "attaboy" contribution sent to Mr Nethercutt's senate campaign. Immediately sent a email message with "Donated due to your A- rating from Gun Owners of America" clearly included in the subject line.

I've become fond of the "attaboy" donation as a way to make my opinion known. I still hold full membership in several advocacy groups, but I also send small increment donations to other groups based on individual actions they take. VCDL scores a win for open carry in VA = instant donation.

I realize that "attaboy" donations are not large, but if ten thousand people sent $5-$10 bucks to GOA/NRA/VCDL/etc every time they did something right, I think that their focus would only sharpen.

I can't directly penalize the Brady Campaign or VPC, but I can support their opposition.

For your consideration...
 
You got it, Skofnung....

If I can convince the Florida family to vote for Mel from as far away as Australia,

just think what you in-state residents can accomplish.

Let's get with it...Betty Castor is not one of us.:eek:
 
A national CCW will empower the federal govt to keep track of your name in the context of a registered gun owner.
Is that what we deserve?

Ok, let's back off from this for a second.

Now, there is a difference between national CCW and national CCW RECIPROCITY!

National CCW means a federal permit, National CCW reciprocity means that your CCW from any state makes you valid in every state.

There is no way in this earth that National CCW will pass. National CCW RECIPROCITY on the other hand, could.

So please folks, STOP confusing the two.
 
You forgot Arkansas.

Blanche Lincoln voted for the AWB renewal.

She is running against Jim Holt.

But it looks like Holt is in an uphill battle.

Well, I remembered Holt; but I wanted to limit the selection to races where I thought we had a fighting chance. I would really, really like Holt to win but he is facing an incumbent who had a 24-point lead in the polls as of August.

If I had to do every Senate race where the race was within 24 points and the Republican was pro-gun against a anti-gun Democrat I would be here forever, so I decided just to concentrate on races where we could replace an anti-gun vote and the race was close.

For example, I also left out Johnny Isakson of GA, even though he is running against an anti-gun Democrat. The reason is that Isakson holds a 14-point lead over Majette...however, considering how Tenebaum may have narrowed the lead on Demint, maybe I should add it.
 
In Ohio we have a choice between an anti-gun Marxist and an anti-gun RINO. The only difference in their philosopy is the speed of the handbasket. In the end, it will be better to have a RINO to at least maintain control (in name only) of the Senate.
 
Uhh... Barbara Boxer is up for reelection here in California! Killing her off would be a huge win for our side... Dianne Feinstein would be receiving a loud, clear message... "It's your turn next!"

Vote Bill Jones!
 
hey now. that sounds an awful lot like getting off my fat rear end and actually doing something instead of just tapping the keyboard and clicking the mouse.
Spacemanspiff, well duh! Of course tapping the keyboard and clicking the mouse won't accomplish very much!

You have to move the mouse around while clicking it. :rolleyes:

No wonder nothing ever gets done around here...

-BP
 
Uhh... Barbara Boxer is up for reelection here in California! Killing her off would be a huge win for our side...

Guess that depends on how you define "our" side. Since Jones has come out in favor of ban renewal, the advantages offered to gun owners are these:

1) Based on Boxer's extreme positions, Jones simply has to be slightly better even though he favors the ban

2) He will vote for Senate and Committee leadership that will stop the ban from ever being an issue to begin with.

I doubt it would send much of a message since his public positions on gun control are not much different from Boxer's. So even if he did get elected, it would be difficult to credit gun owners for the difference.

Finally, he has slipped to double-digits in the polls - a negative polling trend, a challenge to an incumbent, and a 7-1 cash disadvantage are not auspicious signs for success.

I'd rather see Jones win than Boxer; but there are a lot better places gun owners can focus their energy and see better results.
 
Actually, you can make a difference without moving your rear end from in front of the computer-all of those candidates have websites, and they're all set up to take donations over the internet.

You might have to shift your butt slightly to get you wallet out of your back pocket if you don't have your credit card info memorized
 
The Democrats are the anti-gun, anti-rights party.
The Republicans are the pro-gun, pro-rights party.

Vote a straight Republican Ballot.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top