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How Gun Owners Can Take Back The Senate
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13A
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Tom Coburn
The Oklahoma race is neck-and-neck between Tom Coburn and Brad Carson. Carson is talking like a conservative, BUT he is endorsed by moveon.org. Meaning he is just another liberal Democrat.
Tom Coburn is a TRUE smaller fed.gov, CONSERVATIVE. He keeps his word too. He said he would only serve 6 years in Congress...AND HE DID (hear that JC Watts?).
Tom Coburn refused to accept all pay raises AND ... refuses his $160,000 a year congressional retirement.!!!
Tom Coburn has the endorsement of the GOA as "the most critical Senate seat for RKBA".
All you Okies, we have GOT to get Tom Coburn elected.
SPREAD THE WORD!!!
The Oklahoma race is neck-and-neck between Tom Coburn and Brad Carson. Carson is talking like a conservative, BUT he is endorsed by moveon.org. Meaning he is just another liberal Democrat.
Tom Coburn is a TRUE smaller fed.gov, CONSERVATIVE. He keeps his word too. He said he would only serve 6 years in Congress...AND HE DID (hear that JC Watts?).
Tom Coburn refused to accept all pay raises AND ... refuses his $160,000 a year congressional retirement.!!!
Tom Coburn has the endorsement of the GOA as "the most critical Senate seat for RKBA".
All you Okies, we have GOT to get Tom Coburn elected.
SPREAD THE WORD!!!
SodiumBenzoate
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Pennsylvania:
Arlen Specter (R), PA's Senior Senator: GOA C- His non-vote in the early 90's was arguably one of the things that allowed the AW ban to pass, which may be unforgivable to some of you... But he has come over to our side since then, and voted against renewing the AW ban this spring.
Running against:
Joe Hoeffel (D), PA 13th District: GOA F- Supports the AW ban (one of the cosponsors of the newest bill), plus many other forms of gun control. He has a 100% with the Brady Campaign (meaning he voted for the bills they supported 100% of the time).
Specter is holding a ~15% lead over Hoeffel, but he is losing a bit of his lead to the Constitution party candidate, who gained popularity after Rep. Toomey, much more conservative than Specter, lost the Republican nomination.
Arlen Specter (R), PA's Senior Senator: GOA C- His non-vote in the early 90's was arguably one of the things that allowed the AW ban to pass, which may be unforgivable to some of you... But he has come over to our side since then, and voted against renewing the AW ban this spring.
Running against:
Joe Hoeffel (D), PA 13th District: GOA F- Supports the AW ban (one of the cosponsors of the newest bill), plus many other forms of gun control. He has a 100% with the Brady Campaign (meaning he voted for the bills they supported 100% of the time).
Specter is holding a ~15% lead over Hoeffel, but he is losing a bit of his lead to the Constitution party candidate, who gained popularity after Rep. Toomey, much more conservative than Specter, lost the Republican nomination.
Connecticut Yankee
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Alan Keyes - Fighting the Good Fight
Keyes is fighting the good fight in Illinois and should get some of your hard-earned dollars. I will be donating to him this week even though I don't live in Illinois. While his chances of winning may appear slim and probably are slim he is fighting the good fight. Even if he doesn't win he is certainly forcing the MSM and the general public in Illinois to confront his lucid arguments.
Even if he loses it isn't a Waterloo for him as much as I hope it will be a Dunkirk. Even not winning he is able to retreat and regroup. The only way the tone of the conversation of the culture at large, the mores if you will, is to keep pushing it in our favor. Keyes is a stellar example of what one man can do.
Keyes is fighting the good fight in Illinois and should get some of your hard-earned dollars. I will be donating to him this week even though I don't live in Illinois. While his chances of winning may appear slim and probably are slim he is fighting the good fight. Even if he doesn't win he is certainly forcing the MSM and the general public in Illinois to confront his lucid arguments.
Even if he loses it isn't a Waterloo for him as much as I hope it will be a Dunkirk. Even not winning he is able to retreat and regroup. The only way the tone of the conversation of the culture at large, the mores if you will, is to keep pushing it in our favor. Keyes is a stellar example of what one man can do.
Langenator
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Keyes may be "fighting the good fight" but he's not going to win. I know he's said what folks like us want to hear about RKBA, but so has Pete Coors, and Coors has a good chance to win.
Efficient allocation of resources means not wasting money where you don't have a chance. Like why you won't see campaign comercials for Bush in Massachusetts or Kerry in South Carolina.
That, said, it's your money, and your free speech.
My money: Thune, Coors, Coburn, Nethercutt.
Efficient allocation of resources means not wasting money where you don't have a chance. Like why you won't see campaign comercials for Bush in Massachusetts or Kerry in South Carolina.
That, said, it's your money, and your free speech.
My money: Thune, Coors, Coburn, Nethercutt.
Bartholomew Roberts
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My money: Thune, Coors, Coburn, Nethercutt.
Yes, I didn't list Coburn here because we get a pro-RKBA Senator regardless; but GOA does list him as their most important Senate race and I was just in Oklahoma this weekend and saw three commercials from his opponent and none from him.
Considering we only watched about 2 hours of TV, it seems like his opponent has some big advertising guns.
While his opponent is GOA B rated, Dr. Coburn is an A+ from GOA and more importantly, Dr. Coburn will not vote to put Kennedy, Feinstein and Schumer in charge of the Judiciary committee. His oppoenent will.
Langenator
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Bart-
I include Coburn because the way I see it, a vote for even a pro-RKBA Democrat is a vote to put someone like Kennedy or Feinstein in charge of things like the Judiciary Committee. And that is simply unacceptable.
I include Coburn because the way I see it, a vote for even a pro-RKBA Democrat is a vote to put someone like Kennedy or Feinstein in charge of things like the Judiciary Committee. And that is simply unacceptable.
Bubbles
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According to NRO's latest poll, Thune is leading Daschle in South Dakota 51%-46%. While I realize that the only poll that counts will be taken November 2nd, this is very good news.
So, if you can only afford to donate to a few candidates, make sure one of them is Thune.
So, if you can only afford to donate to a few candidates, make sure one of them is Thune.
Connecticut Yankee
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Langenator,
I have to agree with you I checked the polls after my post and Keyes is down like 20 or 40 points. He doesn't have a chance, alas.
Your point about efficient allocation of resources is correct. The majority of the money that I donate for the Senate races will be going to the likes of Thune and Coburn, who really seem to have an excellent chance of winning. It's just that Alan is such a firebrand, a real Patrick Henry and a joy to listen to, I want him to keep fighting.
This post has been great to read, as I have found more viable candidates to donate to. I haven't seen anything like this listing anywere else, it is a job well done!
I have to agree with you I checked the polls after my post and Keyes is down like 20 or 40 points. He doesn't have a chance, alas.
Your point about efficient allocation of resources is correct. The majority of the money that I donate for the Senate races will be going to the likes of Thune and Coburn, who really seem to have an excellent chance of winning. It's just that Alan is such a firebrand, a real Patrick Henry and a joy to listen to, I want him to keep fighting.
This post has been great to read, as I have found more viable candidates to donate to. I haven't seen anything like this listing anywere else, it is a job well done!
Bartholomew Roberts
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Updated to reflect current polls.
In other news, in Oklahoma and Alaska the Democrats are leading by six points in both states. Both Democrats have pro-gun leanings; but will vote to put Feinstein, Schumer and Kennedy as the majority of the Senate Judiciary committee.
In other news, in Oklahoma and Alaska the Democrats are leading by six points in both states. Both Democrats have pro-gun leanings; but will vote to put Feinstein, Schumer and Kennedy as the majority of the Senate Judiciary committee.
Langenator
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GOA has posted their Candidate Ratings Guide. Ratings are based on voting records for incumbents and current office holders running for a higher office (such as Congressman Nethercutt running for the Washington Senate and former Congressman Coburn running for Senate in OK) and survey answers for candidates with no record.
Connecticut Yankee
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Real Clear Politics: Latest Polls These Senate Races
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Senate.html
This has the latest polls for the races in AK, CO, FL, LA, NC, OK, SC, SD, WA and WI on one page. Per the latest polls (various dates late September to early October) Thune is four pointsahead, Coburn two points and DeMint ten points.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Senate.html
This has the latest polls for the races in AK, CO, FL, LA, NC, OK, SC, SD, WA and WI on one page. Per the latest polls (various dates late September to early October) Thune is four pointsahead, Coburn two points and DeMint ten points.
Good news!
Mel seems to be picking up steam in Florida!
Poll info on Martinez site
Hopefully he will gain enough ground for a decent margin of votes before the election and all the chad counting and lawsuits begin.
Mel seems to be picking up steam in Florida!
Poll info on Martinez site
Hopefully he will gain enough ground for a decent margin of votes before the election and all the chad counting and lawsuits begin.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Close races; but going on today's poll results we would pick up 4 pro-RKBA Senate seats in the Senate....
And of the three we didn't win, one is inside the margin of error (3 point lead with 4.5 moe) and one is a dead tie.
Check out the RCP Senate polls for more details; but this is going to be a close race, even in the ones we are winning.
And of the three we didn't win, one is inside the margin of error (3 point lead with 4.5 moe) and one is a dead tie.
Check out the RCP Senate polls for more details; but this is going to be a close race, even in the ones we are winning.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Of the seven Senate races I've highlighted as our best chance to gain pro-RKBA votes in the Senate, six are in a statistical dead heat with the race going 50-50 and turnout will be a key to whether we win or not.
The seventh is George Nethercutt of Washington who is sadly getting pounded at the polls and losing points to a hardcore grabber. However, Nethercutt has come from behind before to beat prominent Democrats like former Speaker of the House Tom Foley. In fact, it happened in 1994 and then President Bill Clinton cited NRA payback for the ban as a major factor in Foley's defeat - so Nethercutt may yet win.
The important part is that we have a real chance here to swing the Senate to the pro-RKBA column. In March they voted 52-47 to ban guns based on a silly cosmetic test. If we win even half of the six hotly contested races mentioned above, the March vote would chance to 49-50 in our favor. That is not a lot of cushion; but it is cushion we sure could use.
The seventh is George Nethercutt of Washington who is sadly getting pounded at the polls and losing points to a hardcore grabber. However, Nethercutt has come from behind before to beat prominent Democrats like former Speaker of the House Tom Foley. In fact, it happened in 1994 and then President Bill Clinton cited NRA payback for the ban as a major factor in Foley's defeat - so Nethercutt may yet win.
The important part is that we have a real chance here to swing the Senate to the pro-RKBA column. In March they voted 52-47 to ban guns based on a silly cosmetic test. If we win even half of the six hotly contested races mentioned above, the March vote would chance to 49-50 in our favor. That is not a lot of cushion; but it is cushion we sure could use.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Pro-RKBA candidates are still in a dead heat with the antis in these states; but all are leading slightly (except Washington) though they are still within the margin-of-error.
We are at the point where turnout by gunowners alone is enough to put these Senators in office in six of the seven races - if gunowners turn out and if they vote for their Second Amendment rights.
We are also talking clear choices here. The pro-RKBA candidates in all of these races oppose gun bans. The antis in all of these races not only support bans based on silly cosmetic features; but many of them want to see the ban extended to most semi-auto weapons.
We are at the point where turnout by gunowners alone is enough to put these Senators in office in six of the seven races - if gunowners turn out and if they vote for their Second Amendment rights.
We are also talking clear choices here. The pro-RKBA candidates in all of these races oppose gun bans. The antis in all of these races not only support bans based on silly cosmetic features; but many of them want to see the ban extended to most semi-auto weapons.
Bartholomew Roberts
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Well, in three of the races pro-RKBA candidates have a small (mostly inside the margin of error) but consistent lead across several polls:
Thune, DeMint, and Burr look to win their races this coming Tuesday.
Martinez and Coors are still too close to call with the polls seesawing back and forth and several ties.
Vitter has increased his share of the vote and even beat the magic 50% mark in one poll - he might pull it out with no runoff yet!
Sadly, Nethercutt is unlikely to defeat Murray (and if he does it will make political campaign history)
In other races featuring pro-RKBA candidates, Coburn has a slight but consistent lead over Carson in OK as election day draws near and Knowles has a slight but consistent lead over Murkowski in AK.
Thune, DeMint, and Burr look to win their races this coming Tuesday.
Martinez and Coors are still too close to call with the polls seesawing back and forth and several ties.
Vitter has increased his share of the vote and even beat the magic 50% mark in one poll - he might pull it out with no runoff yet!
Sadly, Nethercutt is unlikely to defeat Murray (and if he does it will make political campaign history)
In other races featuring pro-RKBA candidates, Coburn has a slight but consistent lead over Carson in OK as election day draws near and Knowles has a slight but consistent lead over Murkowski in AK.
Yooper
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I absolutely agree with Wild's first post.
All the talk about what we'll do when the fit hits the shan is speculation. Talk is cheap, and name calling only detracts from credibility.
The ballot box is the first weapon of choice, the 2nd Amendment backs it up.
All the talk about what we'll do when the fit hits the shan is speculation. Talk is cheap, and name calling only detracts from credibility.
The ballot box is the first weapon of choice, the 2nd Amendment backs it up.
Bartholomew Roberts
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So anyone want to make any bets on how many pro-RKBA seats we gain?
SB88LX
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I'm still pulling for Pipkin over mikulski in maryland. Maybe not much of a snowballs chance but im still pulling.
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